[sagarpadaki]

Hi Rajain, good to see your ertiga is munching miles. It was nice meeting you on the way to coorg ☺. If you are looking for a interior clean up, I would suggest eco car care. They are on Infantry Road and do the best interior cleaning job. I used their services last week and I am happy

[paragsachania]

Originally Posted by lejhoom

In the Official Review the photograph states there is no dead pedal. In your review did you say the dead pedal is present? Or did I misunderstand you?

Hope the below pictures help. The place is more than just sufficient to be called as dead pedal.

[Rajain]

Originally Posted by sagarpadaki

Hi Rajain, good to see your ertiga is munching miles. It was nice meeting you on the way to coorg ☺.

Hi Sagar - It was great to see you with your parents on the way. My mother was plesently surprised how I found a friend in a rather sparsely populated area.

Originally Posted by sagarpadaki

If you are looking for a interior clean up, I would suggest eco car care. They are on Infantry Road and do the best interior cleaning job. I used their services last week and I am happy

I will certainly consider them. Having gone to Samarkand sometimes I will search this place. Would you recall how much time they take for this work?

Typically I have used the 10k service time for this. Even Maruti folks do a very decent job. 3M comes very close to being the best in business.

Cheers

Rajain

[sagarpadaki]

Originally Posted by Rajain

I will certainly consider them. Having gone to Samarkand sometimes I will search this place. Would you recall how much time they take for this work?

Typically I have used the 10k service time for this. Even Maruti folks do a very decent job. 3M comes very close to being the best in business.

Cheers

Rajain

These guys are better than 3M. Do a really thorough job. Take 3 hours with 4 people working on the car

[Rajain]

Originally Posted by sagarpadaki

These guys are better than 3M. Do a really thorough job. Take 3 hours with 4 people working on the car

Sure. I am going to try them.

Another long drive till Pune/Mumbai coming up next week. Its either the Ertiga or the Xcent AT. Time will tell.

Cheers

[Rajesh Wagle]

Please guide me to Buy New Tyre Set of 5 for My LUV ZDI. My company tyres are still good after 50000 KMS, but Maruti Service advisors are insisting to change.

[a4anurag]

Originally Posted by Rajesh Wagle

Please guide me to Buy New Tyre Set of 5 for My LUV ZDI. My company tyres are still good after 50000 KMS, but Maruti Service advisors are insisting to change.

Why is MASS bothered about the threat life of your tyres? Are they into tyre changing business now?

MRF ZVTV is the OEM tyres, right? These tyres get hard as time passes by so wear and tear is slow unless driven by the edge. If you find cracks in the tyre, do get the tyres changed.

Look at Michelin XM2 in stock size else if your planning to upsize then 205/55.

Anurag.

[Rajain]

Originally Posted by Rajesh Wagle

Please guide me to Buy New Tyre Set of 5 for My LUV ZDI. My company tyres are still good after 50000 KMS, but Maruti Service advisors are insisting to change.

50k to 55k is a good life for any tyre. Some even do 60k or so. Towards the end of life of any tyre 3-4 things happen.

a) Either the rubber hardens (making the ride bouncy)
b) The treads flatten thereby increasing punctures
c) Reduced traction since treads are flattened out.
d) Since the tyre is flat braking is directly impacted

In any case you are the best judge if you think ther tyres are nearing the end of life and are no good then have them changed. If you are planning on a long drive my suggestion is to get them changed. If you drive within city and the speeds are within 30-40 kmph then maybe a couple of thousand more life maybe there.

Originally Posted by a4anurag

Look at Michelin XM2 in stock size else if your planning to upsize then 205/55. Anurag.

I would say 205/60 R 15. Earlier they had Goodyear Duraplus later MRF started coming. Or probably both suppliers are still there. The stock comes in 185/65 R 15.

Cheers
Rajain

[sam_sant2005]

Guys,

I have owned a Fiesta Classic TDCi for 1.5 yrs after owning a Swift DDiS for the same duration prior to it. Now I own a Ertiga ZDi for 1 yr and 4 months

Swift - Was amazing. Turbo lag was there, but after that the pull was mindblowing. Even at 110 just press the accelerator and she barges into the 150's.

Fiesta - Was dead duck after 100. That is when I fixed the RD Dieseltronic. My findings were that turbo pulled earlier than usual and longer than usual. But overall the 'effect' was very limited to bring a smile as such. Later realised after all Fiesta TDCi was 8 valve DOHC and yes, a 10 yr old engine design.

So now my question - my Ertiga just crossed 21000kms and I am looking to reuse the same RD box. People have been speaking about mileage, now I need to know what happens to the turbo 'pull' ? Atleast in P2, does it pull like say Swift of 2009-2011? If benefits of RD is minimal just like I felt on my Fiesta, I would rather not fix that. Drivability, mileage are all exceptional on the stock Ertiga DDiS, nothing to complain about.

[a4anurag]

Originally Posted by sam_sant2005

Fiesta - Was dead duck after 100. That is when I fixed the RD Dieseltronic.

So now my question - my Ertiga just crossed 21000kms and I am looking to reuse the same RD box.

The RD Box that you have on the Fiesta is designed for the Fiesta engine. The RD box can't be put to another car just like that AFAIK. Suggest you to check with RD guys before fixing the same into your Ertiga.

I too wanted to try the RD box on my Swift ZDi so contacted a friend who drives a Vista QJD with RD box. On enquiring the box can't be put onto the Swift as the maps etc are different. Hence chucked the thought.

Another point that Ertiga being a VGT, the pull which you quote of the Swift (2009-2011) that drives on a FGT is difficult to obtain as the power delivery gets linear and spread out in an VGT as compared to an FGT.

All the best!

[sam_sant2005]

Originally Posted by a4anurag

The RD Box that you have on the Fiesta is designed for the Fiesta engine. The RD box can't be put to another car just like that AFAIK. Suggest you to check with RD guys before fixing the same into your Ertiga.

I too wanted to try the RD box on my Swift ZDi so contacted a friend who drives a Vista QJD with RD box. On enquiring the box can't be put onto the Swift as the maps etc are different. Hence chucked the thought.

Another point that Ertiga being a VGT, the pull which you quote of the Swift (2009-2011) that drives on a FGT is difficult to obtain as the power delivery gets linear and spread out in an VGT as compared to an FGT.

All the best!

Thanks for your insights. But my last interaction with RD they said these maps are universal and they adjust to any vehicle. And they said its just another 2k i need to shell out for the connectors which are different. And when i asked about performance he did point to team bhp reviews of Ertiga with RD box. This confirmation was given by the main RD guy at Jakkasandra RD unit (forgot his name but he drives the Baleno).

However your point is valid and i am inclined to accept it.

[paragsachania]

Swift will have a Single Channel RD Box whereas all VGTs get a Dual Channel RD box.

Hence, not just the maps but the Box itself differ here in terms of Single and Dual Channel.

[deehunk]

Originally Posted by sam_sant2005

Thanks for your insights. But my last interaction with RD they said these maps are universal and they adjust to any vehicle.

The RD tuning box as mentioned is a universal product but the connector depends on the make of rail used. In dual channel you can additionally vary turbo boost pressure whereas in a single channel only the rail pressure is varied. From my experience I can say the 1.3L MJD engine is an overworked engine with VGT, so you cannot expect much with a dual channel box, ditto for i20 CRDI.

[Rajain]

Guys

My Ertiga does have a single channel tuning box, from Race Dynamics. I have used it over 2.5 years now. Once I felt it was not performing well and I took it to the Race Dynamics office which is at Jakkasandra. They did something - either retune caliberate or reprogram but then the effect of a tuning box was certainly there. I have almost always used it in P1 setting.

The low speed turbo lag is missing and of course at a speed of 100 kmph the vehicle anyway always had enough punch to accelerate well.

In my limited understanding, RD boxes are not interchangeable among any cars. Only the engine specified it can change too. For instance, the RD box in Ertiga can be shifted to SX 4 but not to just any other engine. The packing mentions as such as well.

Overall, I have liked the RD box and its capabilities. I do wish, however, that it was cheaper.

Cheers

Rajain

[Rajain]

Hi

Been a while since I updated this thread. The 40,000 kms mark was crossed. The service too came up and off I went to Pratham Motors on the Outer Ring Road just a day before we had to leave for a 3 day drive to Coonoor/Wellington/Ooty on the long weekend of 24-26 Jan.

A quick summary of the service -

The usual pieces - engine oil, the filters, various top ups, wheel alignment, balancing and interior cleaning. All in all not a great experience.

Could have been better -

One it was not returned at the time promised with the result that for the drive the next morning I could not get the provisions for the entire group.

Two, and more important, a small hole in the leather seats - thankfully at a place where it won't be noticed. I made a fair deal noise about it. They also did good adhesive work on it.

Third, just before leaving the workshop realised the high beam of the headlights was not working. Apparently while washing the engine bay someone forgot to cover some part which had to be covered. They replaced that part and got my headlamps back. Although I do have extra LightForce lamps for highways but I do not use them on a 2 lane highway. Its a blinder so I really wanted my headlamps back.

And now comes the surprise part. Upon reaching Coonoor the next day and then parking the car overnight, the next morning I saw the coolant level to be below the lower mark. This was a surprise since I know they had cleaned and filled fresh. God knows why it was low. Thankfully no damage. I had a small coolant half a litre one which I added and topped up. I am also informed that water or distilled water could also be added in such a situation. But somehow, I am a bit old school, I had to add coolant.

Ultimately this is what we buy Maruti vehicles for - good service at a large number of places and high quality levels in maintaining their vehicles. The cost of the service was approx Rs 8800 minus the interior cleaning. Castrol Edge itself was Rs. 3300.

Coming up a good trip report.

Cheers

Rajain