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Originally Posted by AutoIndian Good to know that the suspension is back in shape & very few parts had to be replaced to get it back in that shape. I always feel that Tata cars' suspensions are quite robust & abuse friendly. Though I had replaced the ball joints & balancing rod on earlier occasions (96K), the front LHS strut was replaced only at 120K. |
I think it's
generally more to do with how car is driven (mainly on bad roads), how much air pressure one maintains (excessive is bad for suspension), regular balancing/ alignment and tire size (% deviation from stock). If one takes care of the above, suspension will usually last long. Specific to Manza (and like any other car in these segments), none of the suspension parts are made by OEM's. And the suspension design is also similar in 90% of the cars in similar segments. So not sure if it's anything to do with it being a TATA. My experience has been similar for the two santros we have/ had, Manza and my Dad's Figo (which is at 52k km's in 19 months).
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Originally Posted by AutoIndian I will say stick to the TASC, if it is just the matter of 6 months, because you will have to show all service records & god forbid if something happens in those 6 months, then the EW will come in handy. After my extended warranty got over, I have hardly ever visited the TASC, always trusted the FNG. The FNG gives you easy accessibility, you can stand there in front of your car when it is being serviced, that gives us much more confidence compared to when we leave the car at someone else's mercy. |
I intend to take this call at the time of 90k km service. If there is nothing wrong at that time to be covered in EW, I will not go to TASS and start servicing my car every 13-14k km's at my FNG, with fully synthetic oil of course which my car already gets. I think I have two strong reasons for the same:
1. Originally manza had oil change interval 20k km's. Then they reduced it to 10k km's and as per Tata my car falls into this category. New manza's now sold by Tata have a 15k km's service interval. All these with same engine and same engine oil recommendation. Just for warranty, I have to get expensive oil changed at 10k km's whereas, their new cars do just fine even at 15k km's interval. I don't like this discrimination.
2. I looked at my 80k km service bill which was rs.8k. Not too much I know but if I were to get the same work with same quality fluids/ parts done at my FNG, it would have costed rs.5k only. So I saved rs.3k by getting thermostat valve changed in EW but paid rs.3k extra regular for service
. Worst part then is dual trips to TASS/ Mechanic. If I would have got the 80k km service done at FNG, suspension would have been looked at the same day, saving me a day.
So I am thinking if at 90k km's everything seems fine, I'll not go to TASS (which means let go of remaining EW), but service the car at FNG at about 93/94k kms. I welcome your views on this though.
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Originally Posted by TechNomad Hello Amit - I have been following this thread for a while as I happen to own and drive a Manza QJD like yours - but more so as I also suffer from TATA Service Centre Quality issues . I think the thread is quite informative and useful for Manza QJD owners!
MY 20k Service is due already - I will take the car out to Service Centre next week and wanted to check couple of things with you -
1) Do you specifically ask them to change engine oil and oil filter at 20K service ? I think i did that on 10K service (actually 13K!)
2) Can I ask for a specific brand of Engine Oil or buy it from outside for them to use?
3) My car makes a thud sound - seems to be coming from underbelly after I hit a big pothole on one of my road trips almost a year back - when the steering is moved toward left on back gear - the sound is most prominent. It comes only when I am turning the car into reverse gear and not in any other position. I have requested ABS Motors Gurgaon (My TASS) to fix it in multiple occasions and they have failed each time. I am going to request them again this time - but I am not sure they understand it. Any idea how to get this fixed?
Thanks!
Technomad |
Thank you.
1) I assume your car is from prior to Club class launch so required oil/ filter change at 10k km interval to maintain warranty. If so, not much option with you. BTW - since you got the last service done at 13k km's, you may have already lost the warranty.
2) Since you have to change the oil/ filter every 10k km's, I recommend Selenia WR 5W40. Cost wise, works pretty well (~600/L). Most TASS which also service Fiats have this oil. They initially refuse to fill, but if you show them the manual wherein this oil is recommended, they usually agree (or agreed for me). If you go this route, please ensure the oil used is Selenia WR 5W40 and not Selenia K 5W40. Selenia K is for fiat petrols.
3) There could be multiple reasons for this. Recommend you replicate the sound to show the mechanic (not SA but a senior mechanic) and go from there.