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| Ferrari win the 24 Hours of Le Mans for the first time since 1965 What an endurance race, full of attrition and unexpected crashes, worth the 100th edition of the 24 Hours of Le Mans! The Ferrari 499P did the seemingly impossible by beating the all conquering Toyota GR010 Hybrids even after losing time beached in gravel and in the pits. What's more, both #50 & #51 499Ps finished the race, a testament to Ferrari's thoroughness in their first overall win since 1965! Quote:
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| Re: Ferrari win the 24 Hours of Le Mans for the first time since 1965 I want to be cautiously optimistic but WEC had exactly the sort of race they hoped for and what a way to bring the curtain down on the centenary! Amazing to see a historic marque taking part (and winning too) at the highest level of sportscar racing. And kudos too to all the other manufacturers that have entered the Hypercar class. Great to see the many different iterations on the regulations, the Peugeot entry being the most visually striking of all. I must say it was heartening to see that beyond the top two tussle between Ferrari and Toyota, the other manufacturers in the hypercar category seemed to have decent outings. Cadillac did really well! I hope to see more strong entries from US OEMs, it's good to see. Brilliant effort too from Glickenhaus given they haven't got a massive OEM level infrastructure behind them. I think Peugeot had a creditable outing for such a radical car, I would be remiss if I didn't admit it could go the way of the ill fated but highly interesting front wheel drive Nissan LMP1 entry of years past. Must be strange to see a Porsche effort have middling results at the top category in Le Mans. Makes me wonder what the break up is between LMH entries and LMDH entries amongst the grid. Finally, I have to say, bravo to the NASCAR entry for the Garage 56 entry. I know NASCAR gets a lot of stick for it's relatively rudimentary appearing nature, but none of us racing fans can deny that it's a childhood What-If come true seeing a big old stock car amongst the GTE and prototype racers. If it looked out of place, it sure knocked some jaws loose with it's pace. I'm just so friggin' happy to see that in today's corporate racing era we can still see entries like this where you just have racers have a crack at it. I'd really like to see more entries like this, more cross pollination of racing talent. What a line up the Chevrolet had, an F1 champion, a Le Mans champion and a NASCAR champion. This is what racing is all about! Let some of those F1 drivers have a stab at other disciplines. Credit where credit is due to the FIA and the various organisers for making sure Le Mans didn't clash with Monaco or the Indy 500. These 3 blue chip events should be kept separate on the calendar and drivers Should be allowed to have a crack at the Triple Crown. Would be great to see more of the teams in F1 have a stab at the Hypercar category. I would love for it to have a resurgence much the same way Group C was a halcyon era for sports car racing. |
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| Re: Ferrari win the 24 Hours of Le Mans for the first time since 1965 Quote:
Glickenhaus, Vanwall were LMH non-hybrid spec. Porsche (Penske/Jota/Proton) and Cadillac were LMDH spec which have shared parts like chassis, gearbox, hybrid system. Quote:
This is what I like about the WEC, it is so diverse in so many ways, especially as compared to F1, which has mostly similar cars. I miss the old Diesel Vs Petrol, Open Vs Closed cockpit LMP1 and F1 Vs Le Mans champions era (Tom 'Mr. Le Mans' Christensen Vs F1 trio of Peugeot). Though the innovative NASCAR entry qualify well, it was nowhere in the race, though 1st in its 1 car class ![]() | ||
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| Re: Ferrari win the 24 Hours of Le Mans for the first time since 1965 Time to fire their incompetent F1 team and hand that operation over to this crew. |
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It started when they let go of Alonso when Mattiachi was in charge. Even a sleepy Kimi could have done wonders had he been coached and guided well, like Jean Todt or Ross Brawn could have done to Eddie Irvine/Barrichello. But the level of calmness demonstrated by Pier Guidi's race engineer and the pit crew during the 'power cycle' debacle 24 min shy of the finish was amazing. It was like watching the Ferrari of old when they used to have that lazy elegance and precision to pit MSC 4 times in France and yet win the race! | |
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Before you move to Ferrari, you look at the team and all the facilities they have available and you think, how aren't they winning everything? Then you move to Ferrari and you think, how on earth do they win anything at all? Quote:
The reason Ferrari did so well under Michael is because the deal Michael made with Luca Di Montezemolo, and the strategic vision he had to realise this, was that Michael needed to insulate the racing operations entirely from the Italian factions, be that Fiat company execs, or the family itself. He brought his own people in, but crucially the leadership triumvirate of himself, Brawn and Todt. Todt was the interface with the higher ups, Brawn the one in charge of all technical affairs and hey presto, suddenly a team with all the resources that Ferrari traditionally have starts working like a juggernaut. All that crumbled the moment parts of the triumvirate left or that closed circuit was broken. Think Montezemolo bristling at his loss of influence and determined to get his own person in, in Kimi, prematurely pushed out Michael. Soon enough Ross went to Honda and Todt retired and you had Ferrari return to how they've always been. An emotional rollercoaster of an outfit. I think a large part of the success of this Le Mans outfit is that it's run by AF Corsa, the outfit that's traditionally run "factory" Ferrari's in the GT class in sportscar racing. I don't think they're in house the same way the Scuderia is, though I could be wrong. I won't discount how much sanity and clarity of purpose that comes with being even slightly detached from the mayhem of Maranello. It won't surprise me in the slightest if there's a run of success, that the powers that be within Exor take more of an involved approach in the team and things starting to unravel thereafter. | ||||
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But I am glad that other manufacturers like BMW will also compete in 2024, thanks to the reduced cost to compete and also the increasing road relevance of the machines. The Hulk competed with the Porsche factory team back in 2015 while also with Force India and won, those hybrid machines were rocketships! This year's Ferrari 499P did just 342 laps in 24 hours whereas Hulk's 919 did nearly 400 back in 2015! Those LMP1 cars really were in a different league, and obviously much more expensive to build than today's top dog LMH machines. Alonso competed with Toyota in 2018 while also with McLaren and won! Mega drive ![]() Quote:
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Coincidentally, Ferrari's last overall win at Le Mans also came at the hands of one of their customer teams, as their 'factory' machines had broken down during the race (sounds familiar?). It was quite a scare for them as Ford had entered looking for blood but then all the GT40s suffered issues and were out of the race. Ferrari would have looked really stupid not even able to finish the event where they had competed for such a long time! I think that customer team was American, there is a great video on YouTube of John Ficarra telling that amazing story on VinWiki channel. | |||
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