2012 F1 - European Grand Prix (VALENCIA)

PAVAN KADAM · 15th June 2012, 23:54

Eight race of the season, people call this season Unpredictable, but the pundits are predicting new race winners since the last 7 races. I would not call this season as INTERESTING , maybe you can call it INTRIGUING , Odd , Twisted , Predictably-unpredictable, well.....Its Different

This Spanish track is again spectacular, a semi F1 track and half of Streets thrown in, with 11 Right Handers and 14 Left handers, i just hope we get Double DRS zone's activated for this track.

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VALENCIA TRACK DATA

Race Date: 24 Jun 2012

Circuit Name: Valencia Street Circuit

Number of Laps: 57

Circuit Length: 5.419 km

Race Distance: 308.883 km

Lap Record: 1:38.683 - T Glock (2009)

F1 TIMETABLE

Fri 22 June 2012

Practice 1 13:30 - 15:00

Practice 2 17:30 - 19:00

Sat 23 June 2012

Practice 3 14:30 - 15:30

QUALIFYING 17:30

Sun 24 June 2012

RACE DAY 17:30

mgh · 17th June 2012, 10:06

Red Bull and McLaren are the only teams with two wins this season.
I am hoping that neither of the two wins at Valencia. Let us hope for a eighth winner, whosoever it may be

As far as SFI is concerned, Mallya should withdraw gracefully. Don't think that he really has time to devote to SFI with his Kingfisher Airlines problem.

RacingForIndia · 18th June 2012, 15:47

What a topsyturvy season. Its difficult to predict the winner. Hope the race is as involving as Canada.
Redbull goes well on this track.

PAVAN KADAM · 18th June 2012, 19:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by RacingForIndia

What a topsyturvy season. Its difficult to predict the winner. Hope the race is as involving as Canada.
Redbull goes well on this track.

As we are talking about our new 8th winner, looks like Pirelli Boss has something very unusual to say

Pirelli tips Michael Schumacher for European Grand Prix victory - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com

I wish, his saying comes true

RacingForIndia · 19th June 2012, 13:05

I doubt if we will have a different winner other than the usual suspects. Lotus wont win in my opinion.
MS wont win, he may have the car but Nico will pip him the the chequered flag if the car is any good.
It will be a shoot out between McLaren and Redbull and all four of their pilots have won this season.

RacingForIndia · 22nd June 2012, 15:35

Friday First Practice

01 Pastor Maldonado Williams 1:40.890 22 laps
02 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1:40.973 0.083 21 laps
03 Mark Webber Red Bull 1:40.984 0.094 19 laps
04 Jenson Button McLaren 1:40.994 0.104 19 laps
05 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:41.065 0.175 26 laps
06 Paul di Resta Force India 1:41.105 0.215 15 laps
07 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1:41.117 0.227 22 laps
08 Lewis Hamilton McLaren 1:41.158 0.268 18 laps
09 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:41.182 0.292 21 laps
10 Kimi Raikkonen Lotus 1:41.620 0.730 21 laps
11 Romain Grosjean Lotus 1:41.784 0.894 15 laps
12 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber 1:41.838 0.948 19 laps
13 Sergio Perez Sauber 1:41.861 0.971 16 laps
14 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:42.109 1.219 20 laps
15 Jules Bianchi Force India 1:42.175 1.285 21 laps
16 Valtteri Bottas Williams 1:42.299 1.409 24 laps
17 Heikki Kovalainen Caterham 1:42.442 1.552 26 laps
18 Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso 1:42.758 1.868 26 laps
19 Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso 1:42.777 1.887 28 laps
20 Vitaly Petrov Caterham 1:43.209 2.319 19 laps
21 Charles Pic Marussia 1:44.173 3.283 18 laps
22 Pedro de la Rosa HRT 1:44.996 4.106 15 laps
23 Narain Karthikeyan HRT 1:45.120 4.230 23 laps
24 Timo Glock Marussia 1:45.338 4.448 7 lap

Top 13 separated by less than a second.
Jenson Button is looking good, as he posed a decent time, despite having problems with his KERS.

jraj · 22nd June 2012, 18:16

No letup for Michael and the woes with his Mercedez.After setting the fastest time on the practice so far he has pitted with some drive issues.

Hope they dont change his gearbox sending him back again

anachronix · 23rd June 2012, 08:49

F1 Valencia 2012 FP2 - Ride by Grosjean - YouTube

Here is the french moron in action again!

mgh · 23rd June 2012, 19:55

Qualifying
1 Vettel
2 Lewis
3. Maldonado
4. Grosjean
5. Raikonnen
6. Rosberg
7. Kobayashi
8. Hulkenberg
9. Button
10. di Resta
In Q2, less than a second separated top 15. Alonso was 11th,Schumacher 12th and Massa 13th. Alonso missed Q3 by .004 seconds. Schumy and Massa missed by Q3 by less than 0.1 seconds.
The FI drivers did well in Q1 and Q2, but mistakes in their only run in Q3 cost them positions.

arvi86 · 23rd June 2012, 20:00

That was yet another 'out of nowhere' stunning Q3 lap by Sebastian Vettel. I mean, how does he manage this in Q3 in so many races? Does he intentionally hold himself back until Q3 or does he really push like hell in the flying lap? Massa was running close to Alonso this time but the car wasn't as quick as the competition.

My bet is on Vettel, Hamilton and Romain/Kimi for the podium tomorrow!

Hatari · 24th June 2012, 10:29

Q3 times for 6 out of the top 10 drivers were actually slower than their Q2 times!
Quite strange. Could it be due to the nature of the circuit that induces errors and makes it very challenging to string a lap together?

If DRS is effective, should be an interesting race.

mgh · 24th June 2012, 13:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hatari

Q3 times for 6 out of the top 10 drivers were actually slower than their Q2 times!

There is a saying in Hindi, which translates to:
"A man knowing the four vedas tried to learn six, and was left knowing only two."
In effect, drivers were trying too hard and ended up making mistakes, because of the fact that the gap between 1st and tenth in Q2 was less than three tenth of a second. di Resta locked up his brakes trying too hard in his only run and lost time, as he admitted.
Don't know why FI persisted in their policy of only one run in Q3, when their cars this time had a chance of finishing higher in qualifying. With two comparatively inexperienced drivers, and a car which has not done anything great so far, that policy will not pay them dividends.

PAVAN KADAM · 24th June 2012, 18:50

What a race this is turning out to be

Too many incidents, and action filled race seen in a long time.

Lord knows what happened to P1 Vettel in the 37th lap, and P2 Romain Grosjean in 41st lap losing out due to Alternator issue.

PAVAN KADAM · 24th June 2012, 19:19

Fernando Alonso P1

Kimi P2

MICHEAL SCHUMACHER P3

What a Fantastic race this has been.....

Finally we get to see Schumi on the Podium.... A great sunday...

And Schumi says ""ALL 3 FERRAR CHAMPIONS ON THE PODIUM TODAY "" That Legend is Awesome

_chikku · 24th June 2012, 19:22

Wow... what a race, all credits to the winners and Pirelli too.
Ham and gro get loads of thanks from many of the fans. Msc on to his first podium after his last in 2006.

15th June 2012, 23:54	#1
PAVAN KADAM BANNED Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NAMMA BENGALURU Posts: 5,601 Thanked: 2,557 Times	2012 F1 - European Grand Prix (VALENCIA) Eight race of the season, people call this season Unpredictable, but the pundits are predicting new race winners since the last 7 races. I would not call this season as INTERESTING , maybe you can call it INTRIGUING , Odd , Twisted , Predictably-unpredictable, well.....Its Different This Spanish track is again spectacular, a semi F1 track and half of Streets thrown in, with 11 Right Handers and 14 Left handers, i just hope we get Double DRS zone's activated for this track. LIVE STREAMING SITE FOR THOSE WHO CANNOT WATCH IT ON TV FirstRow Watch Live F1 Race Online \| Moto GP online Stream \| Formula 1 live streaming and Moto GP Free Stream VALENCIA TRACK DATA Race Date: 24 Jun 2012 Circuit Name: Valencia Street Circuit Number of Laps: 57 Circuit Length: 5.419 km Race Distance: 308.883 km Lap Record: 1:38.683 - T Glock (2009) F1 TIMETABLE Fri 22 June 2012 Practice 1 13:30 - 15:00 Practice 2 17:30 - 19:00 Sat 23 June 2012 Practice 3 14:30 - 15:30 QUALIFYING 17:30 Sun 24 June 2012 RACE DAY 17:30 Attached Thumbnails
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17th June 2012, 10:06	#2
mgh BHPian Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 396 Thanked: 40 Times	Re: 2012 F1 - European Grand Prix (VALENCIA) Red Bull and McLaren are the only teams with two wins this season. I am hoping that neither of the two wins at Valencia. Let us hope for a eighth winner, whosoever it may be As far as SFI is concerned, Mallya should withdraw gracefully. Don't think that he really has time to devote to SFI with his Kingfisher Airlines problem.
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18th June 2012, 15:47	#3
RacingForIndia BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pune Posts: 483 Thanked: 36 Times View My Garage	Re: 2012 F1 - European Grand Prix (VALENCIA) What a topsyturvy season. Its difficult to predict the winner. Hope the race is as involving as Canada. Redbull goes well on this track.
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19th June 2012, 13:05	#5
RacingForIndia BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pune Posts: 483 Thanked: 36 Times View My Garage	Re: 2012 F1 - European Grand Prix (VALENCIA) I doubt if we will have a different winner other than the usual suspects. Lotus wont win in my opinion. MS wont win, he may have the car but Nico will pip him the the chequered flag if the car is any good. It will be a shoot out between McLaren and Redbull and all four of their pilots have won this season.
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22nd June 2012, 15:35	#6
RacingForIndia BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pune Posts: 483 Thanked: 36 Times View My Garage	Re: 2012 F1 - European Grand Prix (VALENCIA) Friday First Practice 01 Pastor Maldonado Williams 1:40.890 22 laps 02 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1:40.973 0.083 21 laps 03 Mark Webber Red Bull 1:40.984 0.094 19 laps 04 Jenson Button McLaren 1:40.994 0.104 19 laps 05 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:41.065 0.175 26 laps 06 Paul di Resta Force India 1:41.105 0.215 15 laps 07 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1:41.117 0.227 22 laps 08 Lewis Hamilton McLaren 1:41.158 0.268 18 laps 09 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:41.182 0.292 21 laps 10 Kimi Raikkonen Lotus 1:41.620 0.730 21 laps 11 Romain Grosjean Lotus 1:41.784 0.894 15 laps 12 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber 1:41.838 0.948 19 laps 13 Sergio Perez Sauber 1:41.861 0.971 16 laps 14 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:42.109 1.219 20 laps 15 Jules Bianchi Force India 1:42.175 1.285 21 laps 16 Valtteri Bottas Williams 1:42.299 1.409 24 laps 17 Heikki Kovalainen Caterham 1:42.442 1.552 26 laps 18 Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso 1:42.758 1.868 26 laps 19 Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso 1:42.777 1.887 28 laps 20 Vitaly Petrov Caterham 1:43.209 2.319 19 laps 21 Charles Pic Marussia 1:44.173 3.283 18 laps 22 Pedro de la Rosa HRT 1:44.996 4.106 15 laps 23 Narain Karthikeyan HRT 1:45.120 4.230 23 laps 24 Timo Glock Marussia 1:45.338 4.448 7 lap Top 13 separated by less than a second. Jenson Button is looking good, as he posed a decent time, despite having problems with his KERS.
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22nd June 2012, 18:16	#7
jraj BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Michigan,USA Posts: 490 Thanked: 212 Times View My Garage	Re: 2012 F1 - European Grand Prix (VALENCIA) No letup for Michael and the woes with his Mercedez.After setting the fastest time on the practice so far he has pitted with some drive issues. Hope they dont change his gearbox sending him back again
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23rd June 2012, 19:55	#9
mgh BHPian Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 396 Thanked: 40 Times	Re: 2012 F1 - European Grand Prix (VALENCIA) Qualifying 1 Vettel 2 Lewis 3. Maldonado 4. Grosjean 5. Raikonnen 6. Rosberg 7. Kobayashi 8. Hulkenberg 9. Button 10. di Resta In Q2, less than a second separated top 15. Alonso was 11th,Schumacher 12th and Massa 13th. Alonso missed Q3 by .004 seconds. Schumy and Massa missed by Q3 by less than 0.1 seconds. The FI drivers did well in Q1 and Q2, but mistakes in their only run in Q3 cost them positions.
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23rd June 2012, 20:00	#10
arvi86 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Chennai Posts: 1,162 Thanked: 995 Times View My Garage	Re: 2012 F1 - European Grand Prix (VALENCIA) That was yet another 'out of nowhere' stunning Q3 lap by Sebastian Vettel. I mean, how does he manage this in Q3 in so many races? Does he intentionally hold himself back until Q3 or does he really push like hell in the flying lap? Massa was running close to Alonso this time but the car wasn't as quick as the competition. My bet is on Vettel, Hamilton and Romain/Kimi for the podium tomorrow!
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24th June 2012, 10:29	#11
Hatari Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Calcutta Posts: 1,900 Thanked: 926 Times	Re: 2012 F1 - European Grand Prix (VALENCIA) Q3 times for 6 out of the top 10 drivers were actually slower than their Q2 times! Quite strange. Could it be due to the nature of the circuit that induces errors and makes it very challenging to string a lap together? If DRS is effective, should be an interesting race.
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24th June 2012, 18:50	#13
PAVAN KADAM BANNED Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NAMMA BENGALURU Posts: 5,601 Thanked: 2,557 Times	Re: 2012 F1 - European Grand Prix (VALENCIA) What a race this is turning out to be Too many incidents, and action filled race seen in a long time. Lord knows what happened to P1 Vettel in the 37th lap, and P2 Romain Grosjean in 41st lap losing out due to Alternator issue.
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24th June 2012, 19:19	#14
PAVAN KADAM BANNED Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NAMMA BENGALURU Posts: 5,601 Thanked: 2,557 Times	Re: 2012 F1 - European Grand Prix (VALENCIA) Fernando Alonso P1 Kimi P2 MICHEAL SCHUMACHER P3 What a Fantastic race this has been..... Finally we get to see Schumi on the Podium.... A great sunday... And Schumi says ""ALL 3 FERRAR CHAMPIONS ON THE PODIUM TODAY "" That Legend is Awesome Last edited by PAVAN KADAM : 24th June 2012 at 19:28.
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24th June 2012, 19:22	#15
_chikku BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Puttur Posts: 337 Thanked: 206 Times	Wow... what a race, all credits to the winners and Pirelli too. Ham and gro get loads of thanks from many of the fans. Msc on to his first podium after his last in 2006. Last edited by _chikku : 24th June 2012 at 19:25.
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