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Originally Posted by anachronix Atleast Michael was not stupid to go crash to the pitwall!
Did I see Jacques Villeneuve giving a hand to Lewis in Canada!? |
Anachronix, you are a distinguished BHPian and we value your posts because you are usually unbiased. Please don't resort to fanboy-ism. Defending MS is ok, lets not scoff at other members to take up his cause
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Originally Posted by RacingForIndia Yes, Michael was wise enough to Park in the middle of the last corner at Monaco (if you as me it was a "soft" crash).
Jokes apart, I think Michael is a quick driver and would have been respected more had he not tried the some of his antics. What I am not comfortable with is that I am sucked into calling him names to defend a pilot whom I support.
Lets discuss Montreal on here, and if you want to discuss MS, I can open a thread and sit down with my diary. |
Maybe we should begin a thread as you said, but I dont believe the Michael Schumacher - good or bad guy discussion will ever be solved!! So let us discuss particular incidents, enough has been said about the past.
Maybe he will do something silly and try to ram someone in the next race but in Canada, he drove an excellent race and exploited the fact Brawn gave him a good strategy, Massa and Kobayashi were squabbling, JB and MW underestimated him. That was clever driving so lets not take that away, whatever personal opinion on him may be.
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Originally Posted by anachronix And like what Senna did to Prost in Japan? I am sure you must be carrying another diary for that!
Nothing more than the antics what Ron & Co wanted to do to kill Michael in Spa 98!
Calling him names? Are you talking about this thread or you are trying to get me into calling someone names? |
Senna-Prost rivalry had a different background altogether. Im not defending the times he tried to take Prost off but his reasons were different. Lets not get into that.
Ron & Co wanted to kill Michael?? Please enlighten me, i dont seem to recall anything of the sort!!
As i said, it is unbecoming of a distinguished BHPian to resort to such statements so please dont call names and post fairly as u always do
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Originally Posted by jraj If you think that Wheel to wheel racing was a term which came into existence because of guys like Lewis,then I have nothing more to say to you. |
Couldnt agree more!!!
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Originally Posted by bhagathgowda I don’t understand why everyone is making a big issue with the way Hamilton drives. He was racing just like anyone else, of course with a different style.
At least in Canada, 2011 I don’t see any unnecessary moves made by Hamilton.
With Webber, Webber has the outside line on turn one which is actually the inside line for turn 2, I don’t know why Webber had to change lines there.
With Button, he saw a gap and attacked it, unfortunately due to visibility issues button could not see Hamilton, and hence both collided.
Not sure why people want the drivers to just overtake under DRS or using strategy or in the event the front runner makes a mistake, let them fight it out on track its fun to watch and that is real motor racing.
And why isn’t anyone taking about Alonso’s crash with Button, clearly Button was on the racing line, agreed Alonso was in front but was on the wrong line. He tried to comeback and crashed into Button, and visibility was better than the time when the McLaren’s had the contact. |
There is a huge difference between aggressive driving and dangerous driving. Aggressive overtaking is what Jenson Button did in the last few laps of the race. Dangerous driving is Hamilton's driving since 2007 - too many incidents to list.
Maybe the incident with JB was a genuine racing incident but that doesnt mean he isnt dangerous and sometimes desperate. we have debated enough about that on the Monaco thread.
People arent talking about FA-JB incident since it is rare to see eiother of these driviers involved in a controversial crash. With Hamilton its not once-in-how-many-races, its how-many-times-per-race.
Last, real motor racing doesnt need to involve hitting other cars. Please see the Japanese GP 2010 for a demonstration from Kamui Kobayashi about how to overtake.
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Originally Posted by ashok_lat Out of all these i see Narin Karthikeyan with decent & consistent performance. Hope HRT can improve there cars further in the upcoming races. |
i saulte your patriotism
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Originally Posted by PuntoMania Totally agreed with this. I get irritated each time he picks up the microphone..... |
Slater has standard phrases like mano-a-mano, magic, neck is resting etc.. From what i remember, he has always bingled. One of the incidents that sticks in my memory is the French GP 2000 where he claimed that Mika Hakkinen's Ferrari had beaten David Coulthard's McLaren (note: it was DC lapping a Minardi)
BBC commentary is not much better either. EJ and DC spout rubbish and the less said about Brundle the better. Its just that it sounds very informative and insightful to those who are used to Steve Slater's rubbish.