[vineethvazhayil]

Originally Posted by amitoj

You are where i was nearly a month back! I too was sold on the Charger SXT and was not too keen on a Honda/Toyota.

Since you want a new full size sedan withn 30K, you have only the following:
Chevy Impala
300
Charger
Taurus

Except for the Impala, any reasonably loaded versions of the cars above run 35k MSRP. However you might be able to get good deals now as most manufacturers are switching model years.
I love the sinister looks of the Charger and 300. Those would be my recommendations.
Would you consider the Genesis also?

[amitoj]

Originally Posted by vineethvazhayil

Except for the Impala, any reasonably loaded versions of the cars above run 35k MSRP. However you might be able to get good deals now as most manufacturers are switching model years.
I love the sinister looks of the Charger and 300. Those would be my recommendations.
Would you consider the Genesis also?

The RWD SXT Charger with blacktop package that Adi is eyeing comes with MSRP of under 30K. I'm sure if he manages to find a 2012 one with a dealer, he will get pretty good discounts on that.
EDIT: I assumed that he would be fine with an RWD

[Jomz]

Originally Posted by aditya.86

Hey guys,

Need your help. The time has come for me to pick up a new car. I have been using a 2002 Accord MT for the past 2 years and have not decided whether am goin to keep her or not.

Am looking at something in the 25-30k range. Not to keen on the regular choices like Accord, Camry, Altima n stuff. Want something which has a better road presence and preferably American. Currently sold on the Charger sxt blacktop edition.

Open to new suggestions as well. No coupes.

Thanks

Adi

VW passat??I liked the interiors and handling. Starts from 20K ish new.

[faustus77]

Hi everybody.
How is VW CC 2 liter engine?Apprioximately $30000.It is a front wheel drive.I was under the impression that rear wheel drive is more stable for difficult conditions specially when it snows around Chicago.
Could somebody please clarify.
Thanks a lot
Regards

[NinadJoshi]

Originally Posted by aditya.86

Hey guys,

Need your help. The time has come for me to pick up a new car. I have been using a 2002 Accord MT for the past 2 years and have not decided whether am goin to keep her or not.

Am looking at something in the 25-30k range. Not to keen on the regular choices like Accord, Camry, Altima n stuff. Want something which has a better road presence and preferably American. Currently sold on the Charger sxt blacktop edition.

Open to new suggestions as well. No coupes.

Thanks

Adi

Adi, I'll let you in on one of America's best kept secrets. The Pontiac G8.

The Pontiac brand doesn't exist any more, but just before the brand dismantled they released what could possibly be the best 4door sport sedan in recent times. Just bad timing or bad luck for the G8. This is one wicked car.

2009 G8 GT's with 30/35K miles are available in in mid-20K range in my area. I'm sure you'll find a few to test drive in your area.

[amitoj]

Originally Posted by NinadJoshi

Adi, I'll let you in on one of America's best kept secrets. The Pontiac G8.

The Pontiac brand doesn't exist any more, but just before the brand dismantled they released what could possibly be the best 4door sport sedan in recent times. Just bad timing or bad luck for the G8. This is one wicked car.

2009 G8 GT's with 30/35K miles are available in in mid-20K range in my area. I'm sure you'll find a few to test drive in your area.

That was one awesome car. The first car I drove in US was a Pontiac Grand Am, not the GT series though. Still, loved that car.

But i think Adi does not want to go the pre owned route. *yet*

Originally Posted by aditya.86

And definitely not a pre owned.

I wont be surprised if the mouth watering deals you guys dig out and throw up force him to change his mind.

[NinadJoshi]

Continuing with underrated but awesome American super sedans, another such vehicle is the Chevy Impala - SS. This one carries the same V8 block as the Corvette (or the G8), and is a full size sedan that can really rip the road.

Again, if you are not in the 'used' market, this may not mean much to you but this too is a fabulous vehicle. Last I checked, 2009 Impala SS's with 20K miles are selling for $20K in my area.

[aah78]

Originally Posted by faustus77

How is VW CC 2 liter engine?Apprioximately $30000.It is a front wheel drive.I was under the impression that rear wheel drive is more stable for difficult conditions specially when it snows around Chicago.
Could somebody please clarify.
Thanks a lot
Regards

The 2l turbo engine is really good.

For snowy conditions it's the reverse - FWD works much better.

Originally Posted by NinadJoshi

The Pontiac G8.

It's rumoured to return as a Chevy Caprice in 2013/14.

[VLOCT]

G8 is just a fantastic car, in every sense, looks, quality, interior and the awesome engine.

[faustus77]

Aah78
Thanks a lot for your post
It is a 2 liter turbo sports sedan.Automatic.
When you posted FWD presume it means front wheel drive.
Thanks once again and regards

[aah78]

Originally Posted by faustus77

Aah78
Thanks a lot for your post
It is a 2 liter turbo sports sedan.Automatic.
When you posted FWD presume it means front wheel drive.
Thanks once again and regards

You're welcome.
Yes, I mean front wheel drive.

BTW, the 2 liter turbo mated with the 6-speed manual also makes for an excellent combination, in case you get a chance to consider it.

[vineethvazhayil]

Originally Posted by aah78

You're welcome.
Yes, I mean front wheel drive.

BTW, the 2 liter turbo mated with the 6-speed manual also makes for an excellent combination, in case you get a chance to consider it.

The best chassis/suspension combination that you get with the 2.0T in the VW line up is the GTI. Unless you want the CC (which if pre owned is going to be a 4 seater), I would always recommend the GTI. The CC wins the styling awards, but there are compromises. If you want better performance, go with the GTI.

[vineethvazhayil]

Originally Posted by VLOCT

G8 is just a fantastic car, in every sense, looks, quality, interior and the awesome engine.

It had an extremely well sorted suspension and handled quite brilliantly. It could hold its own against the 335 and S4 on most tests and all this at a price of under or around 30k USD. Pontiac brands demise was very untimely especially for the G8. I hope they bring it back in another shape or form!

[Jomz]

Originally Posted by vineethvazhayil

The best chassis/suspension combination that you get with the 2.0T in the VW line up is the GTI. Unless you want the CC (which if pre owned is going to be a 4 seater), I would always recommend the GTI. The CC wins the styling awards, but there are compromises. If you want better performance, go with the GTI.

200Hp from a 2.0l turbo is hardly performance. Even Hondas' make 200Hp naturally aspirated. k20 & f20 Engines. (Comes in Integra's, RSX's, Civic Si's and S2000's). I would expect more from a 2.0L turbo performance engine.

A VW with performance would be the 270Hp Golf R. IMO

The 2.0l is a reliable engine. Audi A3, A4 and A6 has the same 2.0l engine.

[vineethvazhayil]

Originally Posted by Jomz

200Hp from a 2.0l turbo is hardly performance. Even Hondas' make 200Hp naturally aspirated. k20 & f20 Engines. (Comes in Integra's, RSX's, Civic Si's and S2000's). I would expect more from a 2.0L turbo performance engine.

A VW with performance would be the 270Hp Golf R.

The 2.0l is a reliable engine. Audi A3, A4 and A6 has the same 2.0l engine.

Let me say usable performance? I think the k20 and f20 engines produced those hp figures at 6000 rpm and the like, and yes, they have notoriously low torque numbers. Good luck driving all day at 5000+ rpm. With turbos, what you get is more usable performance and lot of torque at lower RPMs.
Another example is the 2.0 T from BMW which is rated at 240hp but is faster than several 270+ bhp 2.0T cars. So I wouldn't look at purely the hp numbers, especially if they are achieved at rather lofty RPM range. I also distinctly remember reading that most german cars are deliberately under rated in spec sheets. So the 200 bhp and 240 bhp etc that you see on the specs, are more often than not the power at the wheels and not at crank. So yeah, while the GTI may not be screaming quick, it ticks a lot of boxes and is fun to drive. The Golf R is heavier and not much quicker because of AWD.