Buying, Owning, Driving and Maintaining a car in North America

Jomz · 9th July 2018, 23:54

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Originally Posted by Deo

I am looking for a used car and given the choice of cars in US it is really difficult to narrow down. I have thought of everything from Mustang to Elantra.

Welcome to Michigan.
Try to get an AWD BMW - one of those X drive cars.
Please check out Jeep wranglers also. Small trucks may also be a good option. I'm a home owner and I think I should have bought a truck.

Deo · 10th July 2018, 02:00

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Try to get an AWD BMW - one of those X drive cars.

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I was in the same boat to go with a Toyota or Nissan, but at the last moment decided that you live only once and you cannot afford a German in India, so go ahead with it when you can afford.

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Irrespective of that, I support your wife; you are in the USA, make the most of it, get yourself something that you wouldn’t or couldn’t get in India

Thanks guys, I am also leaning towards 328i Xdrive, there are some really good ones available including luxury trims. I was almost sold on this one.
Only change now, I found out today that I have my company car till end of September as opposed to end of July. So I have couple of more months to decide. But I'll keep an eye on this thread for your inputs.

giri1.8 · 10th July 2018, 17:02

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Originally Posted by giri1.8

I suggested him Subaru WRX, Toyota 86 and Golf Gti, he is not happy with wrx's gas mileage, other two will be test driven soon, so the hunt is ON!!!

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Guys, thanks for all the help, I am glad to announce that my friend has picked up the GTI in manual form, in black color(glad that he didn't give up hunting manuals). Finding manual transmission was hard, but still he went ahead and bought one!

One of the best review of the GTI :

https://youtu.be/VxQ0CUFC4sQ

Jeroen · 10th July 2018, 18:41

You can not go wrong with a Golf GTI!
My eldest son has one of the earlier models. Hoot to drive and still practical for the weekly shopping too!

Jeroen

Soumyajit9 · 10th July 2018, 22:56

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Originally Posted by Deo

Thanks guys, I am also leaning towards 328i Xdrive, there are some really good ones available including luxury trims.

Just a gentle reminder, BMW Sedans have terrible floor hump in the middle of the rear seat foot area. Strictly for 4 people. The 5th person will have a terrible time.
This is one of the reasons I brought a X1 and not a 3 series.

greenhorn · 22nd July 2018, 10:27

Went out on a round of Test drives for my second ever car buying experience
Had made a shortlist which kinda looked like this
1. Fiesta ST
2. Fit Sport
3. Civic Si ( because there was one at the dealership which had the fit sport)
4. Mazda 3
5. Nissan Rogue.

1. 2014 Fiesta ST ($14795)- Was 99% sure it would be this car, but was totally underwhelmed. the recaros made the seats almost painful, the ergonomics were weird, and slotting gears were a hit or a miss. visibility also not what was expected from a car this size. Performance was okayish, and there was no sound at all. Having read so much about the sound symposer, i was expecting some nice notes, but got nothing but a weird whine. Struck off the list.
After the fiesta ST, my priorities totally went for a toss. I had a hard time slotting gears with my right hand while steering with my left, and as a small car, I was not getting the sort of visibility i was expecting.

2. 2015 Honda fit Sport.($12999) Changed my mind about small cars. Fish tank like visibility, Auto was very intuitive ( though still gutless compared to the ST), Sport mode with the paddles was interesting, but it was still a CVT pretending to be a manual. So easy to drive you could drive it in your sleep.

3. 2012 Civic Si ( 14750). Hoot to drive, very nice sound, but a bit rough - the alloys had been scuffed and the interior was in bad shape. the good ones were over my 15k budget

4.2014 Civic Si ( 15530). Sales guy made me drive it. Still a hoot to drive, a bit more civilized, and in much better shape with a reverse camera, right side lane camera etc.

5. 2017 Toyota Corolla Base (11750 from hertz) got this as a rental car for the test drive, and it made its way into my list for consideration, and it pretty much exceeded expectations. I mean, it was easy to drive, did not feel like the boat everyone said it was. It did not give me an emotional connect, but it was a pretty fine automobile

6. 2014 Mazda 3 Base ( 13900) Absolute disappointment. Felt just like a corolla, but minus the enthusiasm, and the car I had had pretty weak brakes. This car had less features than my Indica. Heck, it didnt even have a tacho. after reading so much praise for mazda's online, I am not sure what the big deal is about

7. 2016 Nissan Rogue ( 14261) Never got around to driving this, as by then I had made my decision.

What did I buy? Coming soon!

rajushank84 · 22nd July 2018, 14:27

@greenhorn - That list is just begging to have a Volkswagen GTI or Golf R! With the DSG and the bumper-to-bumper 6 year warranty. I hope you test drove these too. Besides, there's a reason Jeremy Clarkson drives one - its such a lovely car, it is more than the sum of its parts. Something about it feels "just right".

greenhorn · 23rd July 2018, 12:06

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Originally Posted by rajushank84

@greenhorn - That list is just begging to have a Volkswagen GTI or Golf R! With the DSG and the bumper-to-bumper 6 year warranty. I hope you test drove these too. Besides, there's a reason Jeremy Clarkson drives one - its such a lovely car, it is more than the sum of its parts. Something about it feels "just right".

The GTI and the Focus ST were very much invited to be part of this shortlist, Unfortunately, none of them could make it into my budget ( ~15K, <80K miles, Sold by a dealership and not a used car sales lot)

amitoj · 23rd July 2018, 18:15

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What did I buy? Coming soon!

I am guessing it is nothing from your list? So, maybe a Challenger?

I bought a bike (bicycle, human powered) couple of weeks back and realized that in the 6 years I have been here, I have bought 3 cars in 6 years and 4 bikes in 3 years! I am not doing this American Life thing right, am i?

greenhorn · 29th July 2018, 01:19

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Originally Posted by amitoj

I am guessing it is nothing from your list? So, maybe a Challenger?

I bought a bike (bicycle, human powered) couple of weeks back and realized that in the 6 years I have been here, I have bought 3 cars in 6 years and 4 bikes in 3 years! I am not doing this American Life thing right, am i?

Nah,
I stuck to the the list, and the winner is...

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amitoj · 30th July 2018, 18:05

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Originally Posted by greenhorn

Nah,
I stuck to the the list, and the winner is...

Nice! Congratulations!! Manual? Is that a 2014? More details please!

greenhorn · 30th July 2018, 22:34

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Originally Posted by amitoj

Nice! Congratulations!! Manual? Is that a 2014? More details please!

Yes, its a 2014. the Si came only in manual. I will put up a new thread soon.

In the meantime I got a bulge in one of my tyres. Trying to get the dealer to do something about it, else there is more money I need to spend :(

My insurance is atrocious. $300+ per month. That's more than my EMI. Shopping around to get a cheaper quote.

rajushank84 · 31st July 2018, 02:04

Congrats, @greenhorn! The si is a lovely car, probably the one of the last fun-to-drive cars that is still reliable for years if not decades! Just yesterday I was watching a video about how Honda, Mazda and even Toyota used to make fun-to-drive cars that were also reliable, but sadly just focus on commuter-ish vehicles now.

That insurance does sound atrocious!I wonder how much of it is from theft statistics. I know older Civics and Acuras (especially the performance variants) used to be the highest targeted vehicles for theft, so wonder if that is a factor here.

ninjatalli · 31st July 2018, 08:14

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Originally Posted by amitoj

I bought a bike (bicycle, human powered) couple of weeks back and realized that in the 6 years I have been here, I have bought 3 cars in 6 years and 4 bikes in 3 years! I am not doing this American Life thing right, am i?

*Same-pinch*

Time in US: 3 years
Cars : 1
Bikes : 5

Edit: Just remembered, it's actually 5. Btw I sold 4 out of the 5 bikes (brought back the Colnago to India), and made profit on 2 of them

amitoj · 31st July 2018, 18:17

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Originally Posted by ninjatalli

Btw I sold 4 out of the 5 bikes (brought back the Colnago to India), and made profit on 2 of them

What bikes were they?
A used Specialized Sirrus was my first bike. I bought it for $450, rode it for many miles and brevets and then sold it 2 years later for $375. I would call that a profit

The other bike that I disposed was Cannondale CAADX. Returned to REI for a full discount.
Currently enjoying a 1980s Bianchi and a 2018 Diverge

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Jeroen Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Delhi Posts: 8,629 Thanked: 57,277 Times View My Garage	Buying, Owning, Driving and Maintaining a car in North America You can not go wrong with a Golf GTI! My eldest son has one of the earlier models. Hoot to drive and still practical for the weekly shopping too! Jeroen Last edited by Jeroen : 10th July 2018 at 18:51.
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22nd July 2018, 10:27	#6066
greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,873 Thanked: 4,874 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (5)	Re: Buying, Owning, Driving and Maintaining a car in North America Went out on a round of Test drives for my second ever car buying experience Had made a shortlist which kinda looked like this 1. Fiesta ST 2. Fit Sport 3. Civic Si ( because there was one at the dealership which had the fit sport) 4. Mazda 3 5. Nissan Rogue. 1. 2014 Fiesta ST ($14795)- Was 99% sure it would be this car, but was totally underwhelmed. the recaros made the seats almost painful, the ergonomics were weird, and slotting gears were a hit or a miss. visibility also not what was expected from a car this size. Performance was okayish, and there was no sound at all. Having read so much about the sound symposer, i was expecting some nice notes, but got nothing but a weird whine. Struck off the list. After the fiesta ST, my priorities totally went for a toss. I had a hard time slotting gears with my right hand while steering with my left, and as a small car, I was not getting the sort of visibility i was expecting. 2. 2015 Honda fit Sport.($12999) Changed my mind about small cars. Fish tank like visibility, Auto was very intuitive ( though still gutless compared to the ST), Sport mode with the paddles was interesting, but it was still a CVT pretending to be a manual. So easy to drive you could drive it in your sleep. 3. 2012 Civic Si ( 14750). Hoot to drive, very nice sound, but a bit rough - the alloys had been scuffed and the interior was in bad shape. the good ones were over my 15k budget 4.2014 Civic Si ( 15530). Sales guy made me drive it. Still a hoot to drive, a bit more civilized, and in much better shape with a reverse camera, right side lane camera etc. 5. 2017 Toyota Corolla Base (11750 from hertz) got this as a rental car for the test drive, and it made its way into my list for consideration, and it pretty much exceeded expectations. I mean, it was easy to drive, did not feel like the boat everyone said it was. It did not give me an emotional connect, but it was a pretty fine automobile 6. 2014 Mazda 3 Base ( 13900) Absolute disappointment. Felt just like a corolla, but minus the enthusiasm, and the car I had had pretty weak brakes. This car had less features than my Indica. Heck, it didnt even have a tacho. after reading so much praise for mazda's online, I am not sure what the big deal is about 7. 2016 Nissan Rogue ( 14261) Never got around to driving this, as by then I had made my decision. What did I buy? Coming soon! Last edited by greenhorn : 22nd July 2018 at 10:30.
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rajushank84 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 1,120 Thanked: 1,108 Times View My Garage	Re: Buying, Owning, Driving and Maintaining a car in North America @greenhorn - That list is just begging to have a Volkswagen GTI or Golf R! With the DSG and the bumper-to-bumper 6 year warranty. I hope you test drove these too. Besides, there's a reason Jeremy Clarkson drives one - its such a lovely car, it is more than the sum of its parts. Something about it feels "just right". Last edited by rajushank84 : 22nd July 2018 at 14:28.
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rajushank84 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 1,120 Thanked: 1,108 Times View My Garage	Re: Buying, Owning, Driving and Maintaining a car in North America Congrats, @greenhorn! The si is a lovely car, probably the one of the last fun-to-drive cars that is still reliable for years if not decades! Just yesterday I was watching a video about how Honda, Mazda and even Toyota used to make fun-to-drive cars that were also reliable, but sadly just focus on commuter-ish vehicles now. That insurance does sound atrocious!I wonder how much of it is from theft statistics. I know older Civics and Acuras (especially the performance variants) used to be the highest targeted vehicles for theft, so wonder if that is a factor here.
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