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Old 5th February 2013, 22:49   #1891
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Hmm Can't you sell the front tires on Craigslist, Corevtte Forums etc & buy All 4 Michelin's new? Otherwise you would again be in similar dilemma of 2 new & 2 old.
Yes, i have thought about it. If time comes, i will have to sell all four so as to avoid this dilemma.

When i did the oil change couple of days back, i did inspect at all tires. The rear has good thread depth and it looks like it will last long (easily 20k more).

Most owners of coupe say that the fronts go out faster than rear even though it is RWD. So i hope by the time i have to replace rears, the front are ready to be replaced too. I guess its too early for me to worry about as it will take at least a year or more before i get new tires.
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How did you land up in this situation?



For now, you can rotate your tires by swapping them between sides, not axles.
Just make sure the newer tires are on your front axle.
I replaced a pair of tiers on my Camry last year, the tier guys installed the new tires on the rear. As a standard practice new tires should always be installed on the rear axle and the partially worn tires moved to the front. New tires on the rear axle help the driver more easily maintain control on wet roads since deeper treaded tires are better at resisting hydroplaning.

There is no harm in mixing brands as long as the tires are of similar dimension and rating.

I have almost done 25K miles without any issues.

more info on http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=52

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It was final price including all fees. The Indiana state tax 7% has to be paid on the final price.

Well, He had an excellent credit score (698). The issue was his credit line only showed 2 credit cards of $2000 each. The dealer showed me the HOnda criteria and they say your credit history should have more amount in credit to you. So he normal Honda finance rate of 2.99 was not given to him, in spite of the stellar credit score.

Now his credit line would show $20K + $4k, so he can qualify for loans easily.

Moral of the story, get as many free credit cards as you can.
You can get better rates if you have taken a loan before, in other words you end up with high rates the first time you take a loan here. Just credit cards wont help.
Alternative is to refinance after 6 months or so. But again make sure that you are not paying only the interest during the initial months.
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I replaced a pair of tiers on my Camry last year, the tier guys installed the new tires on the rear. As a standard practice new tires should always be installed on the rear axle and the partially worn tires moved to the front. New tires on the rear axle help the driver more easily maintain control on wet roads since deeper treaded tires are better at resisting hydroplaning.

There is no harm in mixing brands as long as the tires are of similar dimension and rating.
Interesting - thanks for correcting me! I have been blissfully unaware of this development.

You're right - new tires on the rear.

The older argument was that newer tires go on the front in a FWD car to get more traction off the line, especially in snowy weather.


As far as mixing brands is concerned, I still stand my ground, especially, if you're mixing on the same axle.

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I replaced a pair of tiers on my Camry last year, the tier guys installed the new tires on the rear. As a standard practice new tires should always be installed on the rear axle and the partially worn tires moved to the front. New tires on the rear axle help the driver more easily maintain control on wet roads since deeper treaded tires are better at resisting hydroplaning.

There is no harm in mixing brands as long as the tires are of similar dimension and rating.
Actually I don't agree to the philosophy of changing 2 tires to save few bucks. Tires are safety equipments & hence are investments to me. I would rather dispose 2 good ones(worst case) & buy all 4 than buy just 2 new ones.

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As far as mixing brands is concerned, I still stand my ground, especially, if you're mixing on the same axle.
+1 or unless it a track car where you have different tread for each axle
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He's looking for a street tire, not a auto-cross / track tire.
The extra dry-grip isn't going to help in the daily commute. It isn't going to help in the wet either.
Based on location he doesn't need a set of winter tires.
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Perfectly summed up above. Apart from that, i believe for my daily driving needs and occasional long drives, RFT makes a lot of sense than non-RFT considering there is no space for spare tire and using repair kit and compressor to fix a flat is a pain that i wouldn't like to go through. Also, i would rather drive to nearest station at safe speeds rather than get stuck at remote places and having to call towing.

Michelin RFT and Firestone wide ovals are highly rated RFTs for Corvette and most owners have reports better ride and handling, reduced noise and longevity of tires when switching from factory GY.

No wonder for 2014 Corvette Stingray, GM got rid of GY and went with Michelin RFTs as factory tires.

Also, i don't need winter tires considering i stay in Nor-Cal where Corvette is driveable 365 days a year without worrying about snow.

Thanks, i agree with you completely.
I must disagree with you folks. From your post above, it makes all the more sense to get a good tire. If you don't need winter tires, then why go with harsh-riding all-seasons?

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=168

The Wet-weather capability of the Direzzas has to be seen to be believed. Yes, an all-season will outperform it if there's standing pools of water to wade through, but that's not when you'd be taking a low ground clearance 'Vette anyway.

The focus on RFTs seems to presume you get punctures every few days , which is highly unlikely. In the event you do get a puncture, calling AAA or getting off the next exit to a gas station isn't the end of the world. There is no plausible explanation for frequent punctures unless you're driving off-road in your Corvette.

Get the right tyre and it would change your driving experience many-fold
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Hi Folks,

I have a 2012 Jetta SE. Lately i am having this itch to get alloys and tints. Can you please advice the approx cost and reliable places in or around NJ to get it done? I dont intend to upsize the tires and use the OEM on new wheels.

I guess tints are only allowed on rear windows in US, is that correct?
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I must disagree with you folks. From your post above, it makes all the more sense to get a good tire.
The Goodyear & Michelin tyres under question tyres are UHP summer tires, not all-seasons.

Plus, I don't think the Direzza StarSpecs (or the comparable Michelin Pilot Super Sports, for that matter) are available in the standard C6 Corvette sizes.

I understand the point you're trying to make. I have used Bridgestone Potenza run-flats for the past 5 years and considered choosing the StarSpecs for my car before choosing the Pilot Super Sports (both non run-flat choices) over them because Michelin had a good deal going on at the time.

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I have a 2012 Jetta SE. Lately i am having this itch to get alloys and tints. Can you please advice the approx cost and reliable places in or around NJ to get it done? I dont intend to upsize the tires and use the OEM on new wheels.

I guess tints are only allowed on rear windows in US, is that correct?
Look up online eg. TireRack / Discoun Tire, etc. to get an idea about the cost of wheels. Some of them have recommend installers too.

Tint rules vary from state-state but you are allowed to have tints all around ad long as they allow the prescribed % age of light.

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I must disagree with you folks. From your post above, it makes all the more sense to get a good tire. If you don't need winter tires, then why go with harsh-riding all-seasons?

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=168

The Wet-weather capability of the Direzzas has to be seen to be believed. Yes, an all-season will outperform it if there's standing pools of water to wade through, but that's not when you'd be taking a low ground clearance 'Vette anyway.

The focus on RFTs seems to presume you get punctures every few days , which is highly unlikely. In the event you do get a puncture, calling AAA or getting off the next exit to a gas station isn't the end of the world. There is no plausible explanation for frequent punctures unless you're driving off-road in your Corvette.

Get the right tyre and it would change your driving experience many-fold
I can see where you are coming for. RFTs vs Non-RFTs has been up for debate since long time.

The one i was considering is a summer tires. here it is.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....l&tab=Warranty

Dunlop Direzzas are not available on c6 coupes. Again, if it is wet tire, i don't need it. There is hardly any rain in Northern CA and i am careful when its water. That is why wet weather or all season tires doesn't make sense for me.

As for the puncture, that is an unknown entity. Calling AAA is not an option if i don't have the membership in which case i will have to call my insurance company or Chevrolet for towing which means waiting for an hour or two before getting help. As for going to a nearby gas station, not all highways have gas station every few miles. On i-5, i frequently use, there are many times where it says no service for 50 miles or so. Even while going from LV to Grand Canyon, there are stretches where there is no service for 60-70 miles. On an unlucky day anything can happen and it will be a pain to be stranded on road at 2 am in the night with nothing around. Better be safe then sorry.

Also you have to consider that if a Non-RFT tire bursts as high speed (70-80 mph), chances of accidents increases probably due to loss of control. In case of RFT, it won't burst and will let you drive the vehicle at <55mph till you reach a safe place where you can fix it or change it.

I agree with your last statement BUT my definition of right tire is different than yours. In my case, simply going from GY RFT to Michelin RFT changes the driving experience many fold. I am not just saying with regards to handling but many other things like price, FE gains, longevity, road and tire noise, ride quality and many other advantages. All these matters when you do 30-50 miles daily and some 300-1000 miles over weekends and holidays. Similarly, if i get a great deal on non-RFT for my corvette, i won't mind going for those too if i get the above gains. I have heard some really good reviews about Nittos which i may consider when the tire change is due.

YMMV

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Hi Folks,

I have a 2012 Jetta SE. Lately i am having this itch to get alloys and tints. Can you please advice the approx cost and reliable places in or around NJ to get it done? I dont intend to upsize the tires and use the OEM on new wheels.

I guess tints are only allowed on rear windows in US, is that correct?
For alloys, you can get some good ones from tirerack. They have great collection of alloys from all brand. There are alloys from Enkei which costs $600 for set of 4. Mounting the alloys will cost you extra. So i would say around $750-$800 for good, branded alloys. Less for brands like avanti and other Chinese brands. Around $2000 for BBS alloys. I won't be able to help you with the places in NJ but any tire shop will be able to mount them for you if you get it online.

Please post some alloys you would like to put on the car. We can give opinions as your choice of alloys is what matters.

For tints, you can have 3 rear windows tinted however dark you like. You can do the front ones at your own risk. Most of the time, you don't have problems so most people do get it done.

I have 13% at the back and 30% on front windows in my G35. It blocks all UV rays and heat reduction of 47%. The %age here is the light it allows

If you want lighter tint but more heat rejection, consider getting ceramic tints done. They are lighter and have almost double the heat reduction of regular tints.
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Re: Buying, Owning, Driving and Maintaining a car in North America

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Hi Folks,

I have a 2012 Jetta SE. Lately i am having this itch to get alloys and tints. Can you please advice the approx cost and reliable places in or around NJ to get it done? I dont intend to upsize the tires and use the OEM on new wheels.

I guess tints are only allowed on rear windows in US, is that correct?
Tinting laws are different for every states. I 'd suggest looking up at the police website for right information.

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The main requirements for legal window tinting in California are:
  1. The windshield and front driver's side and passenger's side windows cannot receive any aftermarket tinting.
  2. If the rear window of a vehicle is tinted, the vehicle must have outside rearview mirrors on both sides.
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Hi Folks,

I have a 2012 Jetta SE. Lately i am having this itch to get alloys and tints. Can you please advice the approx cost and reliable places in or around NJ to get it done? I dont intend to upsize the tires and use the OEM on new wheels.

I guess tints are only allowed on rear windows in US, is that correct?
Tinting laws vary from state to state. If you are likely to move between states with your job, you should be mindful of the rules. I had no tints on when I used to be in the north east, but in texas it is impossible to get past the summer without tints. So, the rules are also different for each state, perhaps based on the climatic conditions.

I found this online - Tint Center - New Jersey - it has tint laws for different states listed. Your location says NJ, so this should be good for you as reference. Most tinting agencies would tell you the laws as well.
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Tinting laws vary from state to state. If you are likely to move between states with your job, you should be mindful of the rules. I had no tints on when I used to be in the north east, but in texas it is impossible to get past the summer without tints. So, the rules are also different for each state, perhaps based on the climatic conditions.

I found this online - Tint Center - New Jersey - it has tint laws for different states listed. Your location says NJ, so this should be good for you as reference. Most tinting agencies would tell you the laws as well.
That being said, The guy at tint shop told me its illegal, but still tinted the only 2 windows in my Mustang
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Hi Folks,

I have a 2012 Jetta SE. Lately i am having this itch to get alloys and tints. Can you please advice the approx cost and reliable places in or around NJ to get it done? I dont intend to upsize the tires and use the OEM on new wheels.

I guess tints are only allowed on rear windows in US, is that correct?
As others have said, get the alloys online and get the tires mounted. TireRack has local shops that do that for you (for a price ofcourse). You can check the look of the wheels on your car before you pull the trigger so its a big plus.

For tints, go ceramic - you get better heat rejection and tints don't fade over time. They also don't interfere with the rear glass antenna in case your car has it.
Ceramic tints tend to be lighter than the dyed counterparts for similar percentages. I have 35% Formula One Pinnacle (http://www.formulaone.com/en/pinnacle.aspx) on my car and am very satisfied with the perfromance.
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That being said, The guy at tint shop told me its illegal, but still tinted the only 2 windows in my Mustang
haha.. He made money, nevertheless. if you ever get ticketed, no one is going to ask you who did the tint for you and penalize them.

PS: You can also get tints online, precut for your car. The installation would be a DIY, with some tools required.

Check this out as an example - Northern Tint - Order Online
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