[awini]

Originally Posted by karlosdeville

The distinguishing factor is the fluted grille on cars common to the Jaguar and Daimler group. Engine configs as well.

karl jaguar never offered a v8 till very recently in the xk8, all jaguars before this were 4,6 or 12 cylinders.
this is a later car, contemprary to the jaguar s type,as it has the later thin bumpers

[karlosdeville]

Originally Posted by awini

karl jaguar never offered a v8 till very recently in the xk8, all jaguars before this were 4,6 or 12 cylinders.
this is a later car, contemprary to the jaguar s type,as it has the later thin bumpers

Absolutely correct Awini, which is why I mentioned different engine configs in my previous post. Here are the bumpers illustrated as well. I much prefer the slimmer bumpers.

1963



1967

[V-16]

Originally Posted by awini

this is a later car, contemprary to the jaguar s type,as it has the later thin bumpers

Awini you are right. These thinner bumpers were introduced in the Daimler 250 from 1967 onwards and stayed so till 1969.

[awini]

Originally Posted by karlosdeville

Here are the bumpers illustrated as well. I much prefer the slimmer bumpers.

1963



1967

personally, i brefer the big bumpers and wheel spats on the mark I/II body shape,the thin bumpers make it look too high. in fact i hate wire wheels on most jaguars including the xk, except the e-type, even on that, i prefer dunlop knock offs

[iraghava]

Here's a Daimler in Delhi with the fluted/shell style grille:

[awini]

ishan is this the "for hire" daimler limo in noida?

[iraghava]

Originally Posted by awini

ishan is this the "for hire" daimler limo in noida?

No idea Bawa, this is the Kashyap car, didn't ask. I think it's for his personal usage but could be wrong.

[Ram]

ID:318 is a 1967 Daimler V8 250. These cars were made from 1962-1969.

It was essentially a Jaguar Mark II shell and mechanicals mated to the 2½ litre V8 used in Daimler's Dart SP250.

But it had luxury options that Jaguar did not have back then, such as 3-speed Borg Warner 35 auto transmission and power steering.

Jaguar managed to match the Daimler brand's long reputation for their characteristically effortless performance with easy luxury.

The Engine
When you open the bonnet of the red car, you don't see the quintessential Jaguar 3.8 litre straight-six, with the circular aircleaner with two diametrically opposed trumpets.

Instead you see the 1959 Daimler hemi-head 2,548 cc V8 from Daimler's V8 Dart.

The Daimler engine was much lighter and smoother than the equivalent Jaguar. The V8 lacked the Jaguar's roar (its torque). But the V8 engine puts out 140 bhp, is very free revving and has a very pleasant V8 sound.
It can push the saloon up to 176 km/h, yet return 8.4 km/litre on a long journey.

The Company
After World War two, Daimler UK got progressively worse and was finally bought by Sir William Lyons's Jaguar Cars Ltd. in May 1960. This was of course the independent Jaguar Cars Ltd. before take over by British Motor Holdings which merged with Leyland in 1968 and became British Leyland.

A total of 17,600 were made between 1962 and 1969.

OT: Daimler happens to be Britain's oldest marque.
Bombay of the early 1960s had Daimler half-cab single-decker and double-decker buses. (example: Route N2 from Chembur Rly. Stn. to Sion, which extended in both directions and became route 371, and Route A7 Ltd. from Chembur Rly. Stn. to Electric House Colaba, which morphed into route 8 Ltd.). They had a worm-drive differential, but more of that in a later separate thread.

Ram

[Ram]

Originally Posted by awini

personally, i prefer the big bumpers and wheel spats on the mark I/II body shape,the thin bumpers make it look too high. in fact i hate wire wheels on most jaguars including the xk, except the e-type, even on that, i prefer dunlop knock offs

AFAIK, the 1959-onwards Jaguar Mark II had cutaway, arc shaped rear fender spats to accomodate wire wheels with protruding winged hubs and improve cooling to the rear wheel brakes.

The full semi-elliptical fender spats were on its predecessor, the Jaguar Two-point-four litre.

Also, as you can see from the pics, the "C" pillar treatment and backlight (aka rear window) was also completely different between the Jaguars Mk I and Mk II.

BTW, the Jaguar "Mk I" was never called "Mk I".
That was a name applied to the Jaguar 2.4 and 3.4 litre models, after appearance of the Mark II.

The 1955 Jaguar 2.4 Mk I was Jaguar's first monocoque model. It had the 2483 cc straight-six from the large luxury Jaguar Mark VII. In March 1957 it was joined by the 3.4 litre (with a 3442 cc, 210 bhp straight-six).

Pic is from the 1965 movie, "The Spy who came in from the Cold".

Yours truly had a Dinky model of the 1955 Jaguar 2.4 Mk I in Pastel Blue.

Ram

[speedy]

ID:319

[awini]

its a crossley ..........

[V-16]

ID:319 1932 Crossley Semi sports saloon

[awini]

it is a crossley. the british car,not to be confused with the post war small american car of the same name.

[karlosdeville]

That Crossley would be the Streamliner right? A favorite of mine.

[karlosdeville]

Originally Posted by awini

it is a crossley. the british car,not to be confused with the post war small american car of the same name.

The American cars were spelt Crosley, I think, with a single 'S', and the earlier English ones were Crossley. Am I right?