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ajmat · 13th July 2008, 18:09

ID 500

This is a Morris Ital. British Leyland got Ital design to update its second biggest dog - The Morris Marina into this (the biggest dog was the Allegro which was more aerodynamic in reverse). Some suspension components of this car are descended from the Amby. However, the Ford Cortina and Vauxhall Cavelier (Opel Ascona built in the UK) had this for dinner

FourWheelDrift · 13th July 2008, 18:23

ID:500 Righto, Ajmat.

Cheers,

FourWheelDrift

Ram · 13th July 2008, 20:24

OK friends, here's ID:501
What's this maroon and white big four-door sedan?

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Sorry but she isn't exactly in showroom condition

TheIntrepid · 13th July 2008, 21:43

Packard, from the 40s?

Ram · 14th July 2008, 05:10

Hi Adi: Thanks for hazarding a guess. Yes, it is from the 1940s. No it is not a Packard. Here is another pic, sans hubcaps. The pic shows the slight V of the egg-crate grille.

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What about guesses from Karl, Gogi, -GS-, Prabal, jayz, ...

sujaylahiri · 14th July 2008, 11:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ram

Hi Adi: Thanks for hazarding a guess. Yes, it is from the 1940s. No it is not a Packard. Here is another pic, sans hubcaps. The pic shows the slight V of the egg-crate grille.

What about guesses from Karl, Gogi, -GS-, Prabal, jayz, ...

Is it a Cadillac (from the 1940's as you said)?

Alvis · 14th July 2008, 11:38

ID: 501

Looks like a '46 DODGE.

Ram · 14th July 2008, 12:03

Friends:
ID:501 is neither a Cadillac nor a Dodge.

v12 · 14th July 2008, 12:28

Is it a Chrysler Saratoga?

V-16 · 14th July 2008, 13:53

No its not the Chrysler Saratoga V-12.
This is a toughie Ram. Has me foxed completely.
At one look it looks like a GM product. Definitely American or American inspired.
The grille is very Caddy/Dodge-esq. When I saw it first I swore it was the 46 Dodge too but had doubts regarding the grille. Proved right . Was not a Dodge.
Is it a LaSalle? by the looks of the Caddy type grille and it being a LWB.
Cant figure it out at all.
Was also looking at the South American connection.
Ok Ram, spill the beans......Im stuck.

Ram · 14th July 2008, 21:36

My dear friends:
I promise to open the box on ID:501 tomorrow, 48 hours after the original post.

In the meantime someone of you might just identify the car, independently.
Here is another pic to help.

Pic Credit: Joe Fay

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As evident from the different front bumper and trim on the grille and a few minor other things not evident in the pic this is the following year's model.

Nevertheless, this is the last clue to ID the car, until I open the box. I will be overjoyed if somebody identifies it by then.

Alvis · 15th July 2008, 10:53

Ram,

Final try, rather guess ---- De Soto ?

-GS- · 15th July 2008, 11:54

ID: 501 - 1949-50 Checker

Ram · 15th July 2008, 16:08

You got it -GS- !

ID:501 is a 1948 Checker A2.
Checker Motors Corp. made the American taxi cab an icon.

The A2 was Checker Motors' first post-war production model.
It came out in February 1947. This taxi stayed around until the end of 1955.

The car’s front end was clearly influenced by the 1941 Cadillac. It even had a rectangular version of Cadillac's egg-crate grill.

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The rear end was like GM’s torpedo fastbacks. If you notice carefully, the car did not have a trunk although an optional rear-mounted luggage rack was available.

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Chicago Checker Cab shipped a large fleet of used taxis to Finland just before the 1952 Summer Olympics at Helsinki. The maroon and white taxi bearing Helsinki number plate EN-714 is one of those former Chicago cabs.

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Interior

OT:India won a Gold in field hockey and K.D. Jadhav became India's first individual Olympic medalist. He won the wrestling bronze medal in men's freestyle bantamweight wrestling in the 1952 Olympics. To this day no other Indian wrestler has stood on an Olympic podium after that!

The Checker A2’s body was monocoque constructed in that the frame, girders, sides, top and floor were all welded together into a single unit.

The cab was designed so that collision damaged body parts could be easily replaced. Grill moulding sections were made of pressed steel. In case of damage, they could be straightened or replaced in sections, or the entire grille could be removed without disturbing radiator. The front fender could be removed without disturbing the grill or splash panel. The radiator could be removed without disturbing other sheet metal parts. And front fender rear extension as well as the running board could be removed without disturbing fender or any other metal parts.

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The cab was powered by a flat-head straight six

In Aug 1948, an 8-passenger version of the A2, called the A3 limousine was introduced.

A face-lifted and re-engineered A2, called the A4, arrived in 1950.This had a tighter turning radius, wraparound bumpers, new rocker panels, revised front doors, a fully functioning trunk, easy-to-clean vinyl interior, and an enlarged windshield that rose higher into the roofline for better vision.

1950 Checker A4

V-16 · 15th July 2008, 17:22

Oh gawd. That was a Good one.
Noticing the doors and the rear suicide door, on a LWB, and the no frills (no over the top chrome strips etc etc) made me think about the Checker cars, unfortunately nothing turned out in my search, even on the search engine, so I thought it might be a South American production. That was a good one Ram

And Hats of to GS (once again) for guessing right.
The resemblance to the Caddy and Dodge grill is uncanny.
Kep some more ofsuch rare ones coming guys, its good to exercise the mind(whatevers left of it) sometimes!!

13th July 2008, 18:09	#2341
ajmat Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 15,093 Thanked: 29,943 Times View My Garage	ID 500 This is a Morris Ital. British Leyland got Ital design to update its second biggest dog - The Morris Marina into this (the biggest dog was the Allegro which was more aerodynamic in reverse). Some suspension components of this car are descended from the Amby. However, the Ford Cortina and Vauxhall Cavelier (Opel Ascona built in the UK) had this for dinner
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13th July 2008, 18:23	#2342
FourWheelDrift BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mumbai/PNW Posts: 630 Thanked: 559 Times	ID:500 Righto, Ajmat. Cheers, FourWheelDrift
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13th July 2008, 20:24	#2343
Ram Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Singapore, Mumbai, Nagpur Posts: 2,166 Thanked: 221 Times View My Garage	Id:501 OK friends, here's ID:501 What's this maroon and white big four-door sedan? Sorry but she isn't exactly in showroom condition
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13th July 2008, 21:43	#2344
TheIntrepid Newbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 19 Thanked: 0 Times	Packard, from the 40s?
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14th July 2008, 05:10	#2345
Ram Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Singapore, Mumbai, Nagpur Posts: 2,166 Thanked: 221 Times View My Garage	Id:501 Hi Adi: Thanks for hazarding a guess. Yes, it is from the 1940s. No it is not a Packard. Here is another pic, sans hubcaps. The pic shows the slight V of the egg-crate grille. What about guesses from Karl, Gogi, -GS-, Prabal, jayz, ...
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14th July 2008, 11:38	#2347
Alvis BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Abu Dhabi and Karachi Posts: 131 Thanked: 58 Times	ID: 501 Looks like a '46 DODGE.
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14th July 2008, 12:03	#2348
Ram Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Singapore, Mumbai, Nagpur Posts: 2,166 Thanked: 221 Times View My Garage	ID:501 is neither a Cadillac nor a Dodge. Friends: ID:501 is neither a Cadillac nor a Dodge.
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14th July 2008, 12:28	#2349
v12 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 6,757 Thanked: 7,461 Times View My Garage	Is it a Chrysler Saratoga?
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14th July 2008, 13:53	#2350
V-16 Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: mumbai Posts: 4,594 Thanked: 954 Times View My Garage	No its not the Chrysler Saratoga V-12. This is a toughie Ram. Has me foxed completely. At one look it looks like a GM product. Definitely American or American inspired. The grille is very Caddy/Dodge-esq. When I saw it first I swore it was the 46 Dodge too but had doubts regarding the grille. Proved right . Was not a Dodge. Is it a LaSalle? by the looks of the Caddy type grille and it being a LWB. Cant figure it out at all. Was also looking at the South American connection. Ok Ram, spill the beans......Im stuck.
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14th July 2008, 21:36	#2351
Ram Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Singapore, Mumbai, Nagpur Posts: 2,166 Thanked: 221 Times View My Garage	Id:501 My dear friends: I promise to open the box on ID:501 tomorrow, 48 hours after the original post. In the meantime someone of you might just identify the car, independently. Here is another pic to help. Pic Credit: Joe Fay As evident from the different front bumper and trim on the grille and a few minor other things not evident in the pic this is the following year's model. Nevertheless, this is the last clue to ID the car, until I open the box. I will be overjoyed if somebody identifies it by then. Last edited by GTO : 12th February 2015 at 09:24. Reason: Adding Pic Credit
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15th July 2008, 10:53	#2352
Alvis BHPian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Abu Dhabi and Karachi Posts: 131 Thanked: 58 Times	Ram, Final try, rather guess ---- De Soto ?
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15th July 2008, 11:54	#2353
-GS- BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Delhi Posts: 390 Thanked: 18 Times	Id: 501 ID: 501 - 1949-50 Checker Attached Thumbnails Last edited by -GS- : 15th July 2008 at 11:59. Reason: Pic added.
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15th July 2008, 16:08	#2354
Ram Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Singapore, Mumbai, Nagpur Posts: 2,166 Thanked: 221 Times View My Garage	ID:501; 1948 Checker A2 You got it -GS- ! ID:501 is a 1948 Checker A2. Checker Motors Corp. made the American taxi cab an icon. The A2 was Checker Motors' first post-war production model. It came out in February 1947. This taxi stayed around until the end of 1955. The car’s front end was clearly influenced by the 1941 Cadillac. It even had a rectangular version of Cadillac's egg-crate grill. The rear end was like GM’s torpedo fastbacks. If you notice carefully, the car did not have a trunk although an optional rear-mounted luggage rack was available. Chicago Checker Cab shipped a large fleet of used taxis to Finland just before the 1952 Summer Olympics at Helsinki. The maroon and white taxi bearing Helsinki number plate EN-714 is one of those former Chicago cabs. Interior OT:India won a Gold in field hockey and K.D. Jadhav became India's first individual Olympic medalist. He won the wrestling bronze medal in men's freestyle bantamweight wrestling in the 1952 Olympics. To this day no other Indian wrestler has stood on an Olympic podium after that! The Checker A2’s body was monocoque constructed in that the frame, girders, sides, top and floor were all welded together into a single unit. The cab was designed so that collision damaged body parts could be easily replaced. Grill moulding sections were made of pressed steel. In case of damage, they could be straightened or replaced in sections, or the entire grille could be removed without disturbing radiator. The front fender could be removed without disturbing the grill or splash panel. The radiator could be removed without disturbing other sheet metal parts. And front fender rear extension as well as the running board could be removed without disturbing fender or any other metal parts. The cab was powered by a flat-head straight six In Aug 1948, an 8-passenger version of the A2, called the A3 limousine was introduced. A face-lifted and re-engineered A2, called the A4, arrived in 1950.This had a tighter turning radius, wraparound bumpers, new rocker panels, revised front doors, a fully functioning trunk, easy-to-clean vinyl interior, and an enlarged windshield that rose higher into the roofline for better vision. 1950 Checker A4
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15th July 2008, 17:22	#2355
V-16 Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: mumbai Posts: 4,594 Thanked: 954 Times View My Garage	Oh gawd. That was a Good one. Noticing the doors and the rear suicide door, on a LWB, and the no frills (no over the top chrome strips etc etc) made me think about the Checker cars, unfortunately nothing turned out in my search, even on the search engine, so I thought it might be a South American production. That was a good one Ram And Hats of to GS (once again) for guessing right. The resemblance to the Caddy and Dodge grill is uncanny. Kep some more ofsuch rare ones coming guys, its good to exercise the mind(whatevers left of it) sometimes!!
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