[RahulNagaraj]

Toyota has introduced a diesel mild-hybrid powertrain option for its Hilux pickup truck in the international market.

As per reports, the new powertrain adds a belt-integrated starter-generator to the Hilux's 2.8-litre, 4-cylinder diesel engine with a 48V battery under the back seat. The result of the new hybrid powertrain is a power & torque increase of 16 BHP and 65 Nm, respectively. Toyota also claims a 5% increase in fuel efficiency compared to the standard diesel engine, however, no official figures have been disclosed.



The hybrid powertrain option is said to have also improved the pickup's off-road ability. The regen braking system now improves its stability on steep descents, while the electrical assistance ensures smoother acceleration on rough terrain. Toyota has also paid special attention to waterproofing the electrical components, ensuring the Hilux retains its 700 mm water-wading capabilities. The pickup's luggage-loading capacity also remains unchanged at 1000 kg max payload and a 3500 kg towing capacity.

Kwinten Sijs, Senior Manager for Product Marketing, Toyota Professional, stated, "We are acting and thinking as a multi-pathway [manufacturer] and that goes for all our models, including Hilux. It is of course a global model, so this needs to be considered during development."

He further added, "Currently, there is no concrete plan in terms of alternative powertrains on top of this one, but for sure that is something which is being considered. Maybe in the coming months, there will be a more concrete roll-out of alternative powertrains for Hilux. But currently, we still have to go with the ICE engine. It is a first, small step."

The new Toyota Hilux diesel hybrid is scheduled to go on sale in international markets sometime in mid-2024. Prices for the pickup will be announced closer to the time of launch.

Source: Autocar UK

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[Cresterk]

It would be very interesting to see if Toyota brings their new 'hybrid max' single motor petrol hybrid system or a diesel hybrid for the next gen Fortuner in India. I wonder if a diesel hybrid would get any exemption from the terrible 10 year NGT rules.

[DicKy]

Expected a proper diesel hybrid and got mild hybrid instead.

Agreed the costs would go up and usually petrol engines are paired with hybrids, but European companies are still making them!!! This mild hybrid treatment feels more like a compliance approach.

[volkman10]

Toyota Hilux Revo e BEV / FCEV & Diesel HEV for Thailand:




An important Hi-Light of this event is that Toyota took the opportunity to invite some Thai and Japanese media. Experience the introduction of pure electric (BEV), fuel cell (FCEV) and diesel HEV (mild hybrid) technologies for Toyota Hilux pickup trucks for the first time in Thailand, along with the 2.0-liter Toyota Prius HEV that is planned to be introduced to the Thai market. With a limited number of ready-made imported models in 2024.

However, if we were to divide into groups by drivetrain, Toyota looked beyond that and divided the Hilux to cover more needs. as follows

Original Diesel Combustion Engine ICE (Internal Combustion Engine) for both independent and SME customers who do not have a lot of resources but need a pickup truck for use in the transportation sector. The cost of ownership is not too high, must be tough and endurance according to Toyota's standards.

Diesel HEV (Mild Hybrid) group for more wealthy customers is the 1st or 2nd or 3rd car in the house, focusing on personal use and leisure and want fuel economy along with better traction and overtaking speed.

The all-electric BEV group is used for short-distance use as a shuttle bus in the city, such as minibuses, logistic transportation from warehouses to shops within short distances, or for use in mines in Australia.

FCEV Group, the electric powerhouse Add Hygrogen as fuel For the transportation sector, similar to BEVs, but requires a car to travel longer distances, such as across provinces or regions, hydrogen filling will shorten the refueling time and increase the distance to run longer distances very clearly. Compared to pure electric power, BEVs

Today, the development guidelines for the next generation of Toyota Hilux is taking shape and is being communicated through The 3 prototype cars are...

Toyota Hilux Revo e BEV in white with yellow belt
Toyota Hilux FCEV Concept Silver Blue girdle Electric power Hydrogen Fuel Cell
Toyota Hilux Diesel HEV (Mild Hybrid) White with Green
Of course, all 3 cars are still prototype cars, although they are close to being produced on the market. There are cars that are ready to be launched in Thailand. 2024 and cars that still have a long way to go before they are ready for sale. in the next 2 years or more.

Toyota Hilux Revo e (BEV)






This all-electric pickup truck. "Toyota 60th Anniversary in Thailand celebrates 60 years of operations in Thailand" to express gratitude to all sectors who have contributed to the success throughout the year. 60 years ago at Queen Sirikit National Convention Center On Wednesday, December 14, 2022, as a prototype of a 100% electric pickup truck (BEV) based on the Hilux Revo, the Standard Cab was adapted to drivetrain engineering by removing the internal combustion engine, replacing it with an electric motor on the rear drive shaft (RWD), a high-voltage battery pack, charging bay, and other fittings.

The exterior of the Hilux Revo e comes with a blacked lotus-shaped grille in the style of an electric car that does not need to draw air from the front. The front bumper shell has been specially redesigned to match the wide grille, and a CCS Type II charging port is installed on the left side cheek of the vehicle.

The dimensions and dimensions of the Hilux Revo e exterior are equivalent to that of the Hilux Revo. The length from front bumper to rear bumper is 5,265 mm, width 1,800 mm, height 1,795 mm, and wheelbase length 3,085 mm, while tailgate dimensions are 2,315 mm long, 1,575 mm wide and 480 mm rim height.

Acceleration 0 – 100 km/h Do not turn on the air conditioner (because it is cold) Sitting 2 people roughly
Timer temperature 20°C Sailing counter-slam 10.19 seconds

Toyota Hilux FCEV Concept





The Toyota Hilux FCEV Concept development project began on July 1, 2022. After the Toyota Motor Manufacturing United Kingdom (TMUK) R&D Center received funding to develop a powerhouse for a zero-emission future. It took TMUK just one year to develop the Hilux FCEV Concept until its completion on 5 June 2023. 10 cars to be tested in many countries around the world, including Thailand.

The car is not the same size as the Toyota Hilux Revo Double Cab 4-door standard model. The length from front bumper to rear bumper is 5,325 mm, width 1,900 mm, height 1,815 mm, and wheelbase length 3,085 mm, while tailgate dimensions are 1,555 mm long, 1,540 mm wide and 480 mm rim height.

The exterior is designed with a grille different from the Hilux Revo e BEV by being a plastic panel with 3 horizontal openings placed side by side. Bottom Section Open air intake design with continuous lines with the completely redesigned front bumper shell. There are dual front fog light installation bays. It looks like a Gundum robot, including alloy wheels with blue stickers on all 4 rings and blue stickers around the trunk of the rear half of the car.

At the heart of the Hilux FCEV Concept is the use of a fuel cell drive system that is based on technology from the Toyota Mirai FCEV with a drive motor installed on the rear wheels. Don't get too attached just yet.)

Front of the car It uses 3 hydrogen tanks with a total capacity of 7 liters, 1 full hydrogen refill can take you up to 600 kilometers, the drive motor is at the rear, and the fuel cell stack is at the front of the body frame.

For readers who still can't imagine how the fuel cell system works. It's simple. Normally, combustion engine cars and hybrid cars, we just fill up with gas. Or if it is an electric BEV, we just charge it and put it in the battery to send the drive motor to spin the wheels.

However, for the Fuel Cell system, when you add hydrogen to the tank, the system will send the hydrogen to react with the fuel cell stack to generate electrical energy to store in the battery for the motor to pull to use to spin the drive wheels further.

Acceleration 0 – 100 km/h No air conditioner on, 2 people roughly.
Timer temperature 20°C Sailing counter-slam 10.03 seconds

Toyota Hilux Diesel HEV (Mild Hybrid) Concept







Toyota has long been intending to put diesel hybrid power into its Hilux pickup truck. I learned this from market research over the years. Thai consumers still see hybrid technology as new and still expensive. Applying it to a pickup truck is a far-fetched thing.

The days passed. When the trend calls for the development of vehicles that reduce pollution and use fuel economically and efficiently. Moreover, Thai government agencies are preparing to push this agenda into reality by introducing a new excise tax rate on January 1, 2025, which means that this is an opportunity for automakers to invest these technologies in their production lines in Thailand so that our customers can use contemporary technologies at affordable prices, as well as export them to markets with high environmental and pollution reduction requirements, such as Europe.

Therefore, it is not surprising that Toyota Motor Europe decided Toyota Hilux Diesel HEV (Mild Hybrid) On December 6, 2023, the appearance of the prototype you see here will be unveiled. In Thailand, the Thai press (and some Japanese media) would become the first people in the world to touch the car. Even if it's still an unfinished prototype.

The exterior of this prototype is white and there is nothing different from the Hilux Revo Double Cab 4-door model currently on the market. There is only a sticker wrap on the back half of the car in green tone, along with alloy wheels with a different pattern from the other 2 brothers. This means that the body size is the same as both the Hilux FCEV and the Hilux Revo Double Cab 4 doors.

The length from the front bumper to the end of the rear bumper is 5,325 mm, width 1,900 mm, height 1,815 mm, and wheelbase length 3,085 mm, while the tailgate dimensions are 1,555 mm long, 1,540 mm wide and 480 mm high.

The interior of this prototype car is clearly different from the previous 2 siblings because in addition to being equipped with the driver's seat adjusted by electric switches, the steering wheel and shift lever of the newest Toyota Land Cruiser are also installed. In addition, the gauge kit is an LED Multi Information screen that looks similar to the Toyota Corolla Altis GR Sport Minorchange, which has been sold in our house for 1 year, only that the graphics displayed on the screen have been specifically redesigned and not yet completed. At first glance, it seems to be a guide that in the future We may see gauges like this, steering wheels and shift levers like this in the Hilux Next Generation.

The basic power is the 1GD-FTV Diesel 4-cylinder DOHC 16-valve 2.8-liter 2,755 cc engine with Bore x Stroke 92.0 x 103.6 mm. Compression 15.6 : 1 Fuel injection with i-ART injectors via Commonrail Turbocharged compressed air trailer with Intercooler Maximum power 204 hp (PS) at 3,400 rpm Maximum torque of 500 Nm at 1,600 – 2,800 rpm is the same as the normal Hilux, but the idle rpm has been reduced from 720 to 600 rpm and has a generator motor to assist in starting, starting, and overtaking.

Unlike some mild-hybrids such as Mercedes-Benz mounted on the flywheel (P1), the maximum power that the motor can produce, according to European claims, is 12 kW or 16 horsepower (PS) and 65 Nm of peak torque powered by a 48V lithium-ion battery installed under the rear passenger seat. It weighs only 7.6 kg.

However, the European version of the Hilux Hybrid 48V is equipped with a 6-speed automatic transmission, but the prototype version of the Hilux Diesel HEV Mild Hybrid that Toyota gave us for a test drive this time was upgraded to a new 8-speed automatic transmission from the old AiSiN, which will help ensure continuity of acceleration. Better than the 6-speed automatic transmission

The advantages of the Mild-hybrid 48V system, in addition to the reduced vibration at the start of the engine, also allow the Hilux 2.8-liter Turbo diesel engine to have 5-10% better fuel consumption. The engineers set a goal that if the tank is filled with fuel, the Hilux Diesel HEV will travel up to 1,200 kilometers!

Acceleration 0 – 100 km/h Do not turn on the air conditioner (because it is cold) Sitting 2 people roughly.
Timer temperature 20°C Sailing counter-slam 10.92 seconds
The funny thing is, if you measure it by numbers alone, The Hilux Diesel HEV accelerates from 0 to 100 km/h 10.35 seconds later than the Hilux Revo Rocco 2.8-litre standard 6-speed automatic transmission that we have experimented with, in 10.35 seconds (80 – 120 km/h, 7.31 seconds).

Why is that? The reason we can conclude is

1. Software of ECU (Engine Control Unit) is still just a prototype and not finished
improving 2. Wind conditions on the day we catch the numbers. wind Blowing in the direction that causes the car to run against the wind, causing the numbers to drop down.
3. The fuel added in the prototype car this time is PTT's Diesel B7, which everyone already knows is a gas station that is suitable for relieving urine during traveling!

When the car started to start all the way to 1st gear, I could hardly see any difference from the regular Hilux Revo Rocco until I entered 2nd and 3rd gear.

, The Diesel HEV Mild Hybrid will then meet Thai, Australian and New Zealand consumers during the Hilux New Generation launch in the second half of 2025.

However, for Hilux FCEV, it seems to be far from ready to market because the Fuel Cell technology has improved the safety of the hydrogen tank to support in the event of a collision accident both front, side, and rear.


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[L8ButV8]

Mild hybrid is old technology that is obsolete in most parts of the world. It creates limited benefits for the user (mileage, smoothness etc) while adding complexity and costs.

On the other hand strong hybrid creates very clear improvements to smoothness (esp. in city driving) and mileage IMO. Despite being a relatively old technology, the benefits are very clear. I simply don't get why Toyota would undertake this launch, unless its for (a) regulatory reasons or (b) PR reasons.

[tsk1979]

Originally Posted by RahulNagaraj

The regen braking system now improves its stability on steep descents,

Does not work very well in practice atleast on the Tundra Hybrid which is also "mild". It does add city mileage though. I expect the system to be very similar.


Downhill the regen braking does not offer enough braking even with engine braking, you will be cooking the brakes if you don't shift into low gear. Esp on cruise control where it does not go to the lowest gears. And the small battery gets full real fast.

Other cons which may or may not be true for hilux
1. Battery goes under the seat in toyota hybrids. this makes stuff like second battery complicated as you have to route cables
2. Wiring accessories is now again a complicated job because you will want to tap relays in engine bay, while power comes from under the seat

I wonder if the jump start points in the engine bay can be used.

[volkman10]

Toyota Hilux facelift with 48V mild-hybrid system in March. Australia to be the first in the market for the mild-Hybrid Hilux.

The 2024 Toyota Hilux facelift will move into Australian showrooms in March 2024, with the market being the first in the world to sell the pick-up truck with its new hybrid powertrain.

With its revamped aesthetic – first seen in Indonesia – that highlights a tougher front end, the main draw of the refreshed Hilux for Australia is its new 48-volt, mild-hybrid (MHEV) technology. It will be standard fitment to the higher-end variants for the market, namely the 4x4 Rogue and automatic SR5 double-cabs, while remaining optional for the 4x4 SR double cab range.

Toyota Australia says the electrified system contributes to a 6-10% improvement in engine smoothness and fuel economy for the 2.8-litre turbodiesel four-cylinder mill, compared to the currently-employed non-hybrid engines.

As detailed in a prior post, fuel consumption is claimed to be down by 5 percent, and the engine idling speed is also reduced from 720 rpm to 600 rpm.











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[volkman10]

New Toyota Hilux is already developed with a hybrid diesel engine. Coming in 2026.

This option should also arrive in the next generation of the SW4 SUV.

the Japanese manufacturer has already started the quotation to develop components of the renewed truck with local suppliers. The project code is 640X.

According to documents to were accessed, the development of the new generation of Toyota Hilux are Brazil and South Africa, in addition to Thailand. The launch should take place simultaneously in regions such as Latin America, Africa and Asia

Another important novelty will be in the engine. The new Hilux should finally have hybrid engines in Brazil. The most affordable option is a 48V mild hybrid set, which combines the well-known 2.8-liter four-cylinder turbodiesel engine with 204 hp of power with a 16 hp electric motor (which replaces alternator and starter) and a set of lithium-ion batteries with 0.2 kWh capacity.

Due to the actuation of the electric motor in very punctual and strategic phases of use, especially below 1,000 revolutions per minute, the maximum power of the Hilux mild hybrid remains at 204 hp at 3,400 rpm, as well as the torque of 50,9 kgfm between 1,600 and 2,800 rpm. The set also includes a new-generation start-stop system.

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[viXit]

These minor gains make it easier for me to own a 2024 fortuner.
None of this seems motivated by any real gains. I'm seeing some amazing hybrid tech and gains from other cars and models worldwide. But this seems like some compliance exercise in emissions.