[volkman10]

- Toyota was not yet affected by the rise of the Chinese/Tesla

- Ford outsold Nissan, despite leaving key markets. Its new strategy on focusing on the markets where it is profitable seems to work

- BYD is ahead of Tesla and gets closer to the top 10. Its big lineup of PHEVs and BEVs is helping to gain traction in China, and from this year in many markets.

- Tesla jumped 7 positions and outsold Renault, Mazda, Jeep. How will it sustain in 2023?

- Changan ahead of Renault and Geely ahead of Fiat! Sales boosted by domestic demand and Russia.

- MG continued to climb and now sells more cars than Dacia, which also performed well.

- Tata and Mahindra with strong results thanks to soaring demand at home. Unlike the Chinese brands, the Indian ones don't have a clear global expansion plan.



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[GTO]

Most interesting stats, thanks for sharing!

- Great to see our Tata & Mahindra on the list

- As standalone companies, Maruti (approx 2 million sales) would be in the 10th - 12th position globally. Hyundai India would be somewhere around 30th rank.

- No.1 Toyota sells almost DOUBLE that of No.2 VW. Of course, include the VAG brands (Audi, Skoda) and VW is much closer.

- Hyundai is hot on Honda's tail. I expect Hyundai to overtake Honda soon.

- Nissan will fall further down. Terrible management, product range isn't strong enough, damaged brand across the world. Some hits, too many misses in terms of product.

- Kia at no.7 and playing with the big boys! Who would've thought. Kudos.

- BMW & Mercedes are neck to neck. And comfortably ahead of Audi.

[Axe77]

Wow. Nice to see these stats. Some of the things that struck me:

BYD: A pure EV maker being at No. 12 is incredible. That its nearly 25% of the top seller Toyota (and just a little under half of the no. 2 maker VW) is equally incredible.

Hyundai / Kia combine: If one sees Kia & Hyundai collectively (even in a partial sense), they’re already well past Honda.

Land Rover / Jaguar: Surprised to see that they’re virtually nowhere in this list. I would have expected at least LR to feature somewhere at least on this.

Jeep: Is a lot higher up than I’d have imagined. I guess they still have a pretty respectable stronghold in many key markets, US most importantly but even Europe and other markets.

[GTO]

Originally Posted by Axe77

BYD: A pure EV maker being at No. 12 is incredible. That its nearly 25% of the top seller Toyota (and just a little under half of the no. 2 maker VW) is equally incredible.

And no.14, Tesla. Quite remarkable when you consider Tesla's premium-priced EVs & limited presence worldwide.

BYD & Tesla are changing the EV landscape. All the incumbents have to follow. Before Tesla, EVs were slow, boring and merely existed for "compliance" reasons. BYD is representative of China's aspirations in the automotive industry. They missed the petrol / diesel car wave by a century, but they won't on EVs.

Land Rover / Jaguar: Surprised to see that they’re virtually nowhere in this list. I would have expected at least LR to feature somewhere at least on this.

Jaguar is almost dead at the global level. Land Rover & Range Rover are too expensive & suffer from a bad reputation worldwide (reliability-wise). Plus, the overall positioning & product range of Mercedes, BMW, Audi etc has arguably improved (e.g. GLS, X7, Maybach).

[SKC-auto]

Originally Posted by Axe77

BYD: A pure EV maker being at No. 12 is incredible. That its nearly 25% of the top seller Toyota (and just a little under half of the no. 2 maker VW) is equally incredible.

BYD is not a pure EV maker, it also sells PHEV and hybrids(if I am not wrong).

[FAIAAA]

Thanks for sharing. Interesting and informative read.
Re-iterating a point made many times elsewhere on this forum - how some of these global biggies have read Indian market wrong or partially correct, and the blunders they have made or continue to make in a strategically important like India. Just look at the top 10, only Hyundai-Kia and Suzuki have got their India act right!

[Mystic]

After seeing these metrics, I started to look into which is the best selling car company in terms of number of cars sold in various countries. America (Ford),in Europe (VW) , in Japan (Toyota) and in India (Maruti).

As per my personal observations, What this above metrics implies is that there is patriotism in the respective countries to keep their own brands number 1 in their respective countries.

Toyota happens to be one brand liked by all across the world and hence became world number 1. I don’t see in the near future, any other company beating Toyota.

When I was working in the motor capital of the world Detroit in early 2000 , Toyota was no where in the top 3. All the activity in the Detroit town is buzzing with the new automobile launches of the top 3 American car manufacturers . Toyota slowly climbed to be number 1 in the world for the first time in 2009. I think the root cause is Toyota cars last long, low maintenance and very economical in gas mileage.

Also another personal observation is the gas prices I had seen in America from less than 1 dollar per gallon to 5 dollars per gallon during Katrina hurricane times. Americans ditched the big gas guzzlers and started liking Toyota cars with good mileage. This was for a short period and when gas has became cheaper, they returned to big SUV gas guzzlers again. Toyota meanwhile started making consistently cars with good mileage and also made some specific big cars for American consumers like Avalon. This consistency of making good lasting cars with good mileage made them number 1.

[desdemona]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_con...ature=emb_logo

The above sales numbers list treats all passenger vehicles as identical data points/units.

Another, parallel and more important way of 'counting' is the financial.

More important because of the expensive EV-transition future as well as the evident problem of too many somewhat endangered 'legacy' brands, overcapacity, poor overall returns on capital, etc.

All just as the Chinese firms and/or brands are coming, in the wake of first the Japanese firms (which are all struggling barring Toyota and...'Maruti' Suzuki), then Hyundai-Kia (which are still surging, and everywhere ex-China at that.)

Many of these brands are doomed, being sub-scale and without the financial wherewithal to cope in the years to come (EV transition, high investment load, Chinese EV exports, feeble brand cachet or USP, etc.)