[DicKy]

How do they do this???

The crossover was a given with the leaked drawings and patents. But they sprung a surprise with three more models!!! Masters of tight lipped secrets. Though to be fair, other than the Crossover model everything else are concepts without even the interiors shown and the Sport and Estate models look like ones they have already unveiled as a part of their BEVs concept line-up. Multiple bodystyles and to be sold outside Japan too. Back to the 80s I guess, when the Crown had coupe and station wagon variants too in addition to the sedan while sold in the GCC market.

Pricing is a mystery, with the Crown sedan being replaced in Japan, while it is the Avalon in USA. There are also feature differences between the models shown in the Japan and USA. The USA one didn't have electric steering wheel adjust, while the Japan one did. Also the Japan one had the whole rear seat comfort features carried out from the Crown. Rear seat controls in the armrest, boss mode, grabrails on the front seatback et al.

Likes
1. The Crown name is alive and they have given multiple bodystyles too, unlike earlier rumours where it would be a trim level brand like it is being done in China. Eager to see the marketing and pricing strategy. Squeezed between mainstream Toyotas and Lexus?
2. Though disappointed with the drivetrain option (more on that later), they have given standard AWD across the range. Especially eager to see how the 2.4l turbo hybrid works out. Same as unveiled in the Lexus RX500h, it ditches the E-CVT for a 6speed automatic, though it is not confirmed if it is a torque convertor or DCT.
3. Available outside Japan too, would be wildly popular in the GCC market for sure. The Crown brand is strong there.
4. Good interior styling, with none of those touch controls overdose and portrait tablets. Nice TFT display instrument cluster. Physical buttons retained with a prominent volume knob. I wouldn't have been surprised if they had a CD player slot somewhere in the dashboard.
5. The sedan lives on.

Dislikes
1. Drivetrain. Abandoning the TNGA-L platform for the TNGA-K platform is a downgrade IMHO. Wonder why Toyota avoids using the TNGA-L platform. Though Toyota has wisely given AWD as standard, wouldn't be surprised if there is a FWD variant for one of the bigger markets. The suspension is also a downgrade, spec-wise. Gone are the front double wishbone suspension, replaced with just MacPherson-type struts. Trust Toyota to tune it for comfort even with basic specs, as they have been doing for decades with the Lexus ES. But, nevertheless a downgrade.
2. Cost cutting? The videos available now are that of the pre-production Crossover model. Open the bonnet, it looks like any other mainstream family car. Single Bonnet prop rod, suspension strut visible, not much of covering up whereas the previous Crown had hydraulic struts for the bonnet, engine bay covered up all visually like Lexus models. The Crossover model weirdly doesn't have a liftback, notchback tailgate, eventhough it is styled as one. Has a sedan like bootlid which will affect practicality. Also, the bootlid has ordinary gooseneck hinges instead of the hydraulic struts that the previous one had.
3. For some reason, I don't like Toyota's new design language that started with their BEV concepts. Like the fact that present Toyotas have multiple design languages across the range, but how I wish if Toyota followed the Genesis kind of styling or even something like Hyundai's retro themed concepts.

[dragracer567]

I have mixed feelings about this. While there was this initial outrage on the possibility that the next crown would be a crossover, this seems more like a lifted fastback. While I would’ve preferred a 3-box sedan, this is the best we can get in this day and age, so I’m contented.

Toyota has finally upped their game when it comes to interior tech, the Camry’s interior tech for example was starting to feel a bit dated even after the facelift, especially when we are comparing with competitors like the accord or Sonata.

Finally, while this car actually looks nice - possibly better than a Lexus ES even, I wish they had named it the Avalon and reserved the Crown name tag for an even more upmarket model - the Crown branding deserves better.

[DicKy]

No wonder the Crown looks decontented and the specs looks downgraded.

The old Crown started at 30-35 lakhs with the top end costing 50+ lakhs in Japan. The new crossover Crown starts at 25 lakhs, with the top end at 35 lakhs.

Yes, to be fair we have to wait and see how the Crown sedan is equipped and priced, but since the crossover model is unveiled now, that is all we have to compare.

[volkman10]

New Crown Equipped with "Dual Boost Hybrid Systema" achieves accelerator direct acceleration by directly connecting to the Engine.

New Crown with two hybrid powertrains.

Toyota Motor Corporation announced four variants at once, and the all-new Crown will first go on sale with a crossover. After that, sedans, sports, and estates will be released sequentially over a period of one and a half years.

For this reason, only the crossover has been announced with detailed specifications, and the Crown crossover is infused with plenty of current Toyota technology only for cars that are positioned as Toyota's flagship.

In particular, for hybrid powertrains, in addition to the fifth-generation 2.5-liter THS (TOYOTA HYBRID SYSTEM) II, a 2.4-liter turbo dual-boost hybrid system that is directly connected to the engine is available. Although the system is different, it is an electric four-wheel drive system with the addition of a rear motor drive.

Designed as the world's first mass-produced hybrid vehicle system, the THS is a system that controls the drive and regeneration motors, the power generation motors, and the driving force from the engine with planetary gears and is the first and most advanced hybrid system that has been used to the present day by smoothly switching the driving force peculiar to planetary gears. As for the hybrid format, it is a series parallel hybrid using two motors, and it has become a compact and highly efficient system with each generation.

The fifth-generation THS was introduced from the new "Noah" and "Voxy", and the THS name was also written as a new-generation series parallel hybrid, but in the new Crown, the notation TOYOTA HYBRID SYSTEM II was reinstated. It is a joy for both Toyota fans and those who have understood the hybrid system so far. I was wondering why the name was changed to the series parallel hybrid, but it may also be because of the upcoming debut of Toyota's "Dual Boost Hybrid Stem", another hybrid that will be installed in this new Crown.

The Dual Boost Hybrid Stem (DBHS) is a hybrid system that combines a newly developed one-motor parallel hybrid system that directs output from the engine directly to the motor and drives the front wheels with the power of the motor and engine, and the eAxle with integrated inverter to drive the rear wheels.

Its features are a 2.4-liter direct-injection twin-scroll turbo "T24A-FTS" engine that generates a maximum output of 200 kW (272 PS) at 6000 rpm and a maximum torque of 460 Nm (46.9 kgf·m) at 2000 rpm, as advertised as "powerful and linear acceleration feeling", and a Direct direct engine with a built-in single motor for drive and regeneration, as well as a Direct engine with a built-in single motor for drive and regeneration. A hybrid system is built by combining the Shift-6AT.

From the transmission side, the torque converter of the six-speed step automatic transmission is the motor, and the powerful 2.4-liter direct-injection turbo engine with a multi-plate clutch is connected to the motor.

On the other hand, from the engine side, a motor connected by a multi-plate clutch supports the output of the engine and is directly connected to the step AT. In addition, since the rear is also driven by a motor, it is a system that can run even more powerfully.

Since the front motor supports the turbo engine, the front motor assists at the start and conceals the turbo lag. Since the engine can be detached by a multi-plate clutch, it is also possible to run only the motor. It is a complicated electric 4WD system in which the rear motor drive is also added to it.

the purpose of DBHS is not only to run with high efficiency, but also to pursue a taste of direct driving by creating a hybrid system centered on the engine. If it's just high efficiency, there is already a fifth-generation THS that is one of the world's top-level, and DBHS is trying to present a hybrid worldview that is different from that.

It will be the TS050 HYBRID and GR010 HYBRID, which won five consecutive 24 Hours of Le Mans. These WEC (World Endurance Championship) machines are equipped with a hybrid system consisting of a motor at the front and an engine + motor at the rear. It is named "THS-R" because it is a racing version of THS, and although the structure of the rear engine + motor is unknown, a diagram that seems to be directly connected to the transmission from the engine has been released. The front and rear systems are reversed from the new Crown, but they are the same in the sense that the four wheels are driven and controlled by the engine + motor and motor.

How much know-how has been poured into this area will also be a point of interest for the new Crown.

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[volkman10]

Toyota Crown crossover to be launched in the fall of 2022.

[volkman10]

Toyota Crown sport:





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[volkman10]

2024 Toyota Crown Sport, Sedan, Estate first details released.

The SUVs will come in hybrid and plug-in hybrid flavors, while the sedan will be available with hybrid and FCEV powertrains










The Crown Sport, Sedan, and Estate initial technical specifications have been released before the models go on sale in Japan this fall, except for the Estate as the wagon is due later in 2024.

All three will be offered with hybrid and plug-in hybrid powertrains and seating for five people. The Crown Sedan is going to be offered with two-wheel drive whereas the Sport and Estate will come with four-wheel drive. Toyota mentions the sedan will be available with 19- and 20-inch wheels whereas the other two cars will ride on 21-inch alloys. The Japanese website features the Sport and Estate with two-tone paints while the Sport is shown only with a monochromatic finish.

the Sedan type will be offered in hybrid and FCEV forms, expanding Toyota’s hydrogen range next to the Mirai.

Crown Sedan Interiors:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1b0...83%BC%E3%83%A0

Crown Sports Interiors:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHj1...83%BC%E3%83%A0

Crown Estate interiors:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1Wp...83%BC%E3%83%A0

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[volkman10]

Toyota Crown Crossover:











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[volkman10]

Presented in Japan the Crown Sport:


The hybrid model bookings from today and in December a PHEV engine will arrive.

- The Sport Crossover is a new form that comes with a stimulating and creative environment in a package that is easy to get into, exit and drive, and that offers an agile and sporty driving experience.

- Sporty and dynamic design that raises the expectations of the driving experience, with a design concept that balances power and grace.

- Excitement from the first moment inside the cabin, with an interior space that facilitates access and driving

- Fun driving experience through a balance between high-quality flexible suspension and agile driving performance

- Equipped with the latest advanced safety equipment.

Standard 2.5-litre parallel hybrid system Like the Crossover, the Sport is equipped with a high-efficiency hybrid system designed to improve efficiency and performance. It offers improved responsiveness at low speeds and direct acceleration at medium and high speeds through the effective utilization of electric power, thus contributing to better fuel economy and silence.

2.5-litre plug-in hybrid system The Sport is equipped with a high-performance density traction motor.
In addition to the attractive acceleration it offers, it also provides driving force that allows front/rear load shifting and control of the car's speed with subtle footwork with the accelerator pedal. As a result, the driver can enjoy the feeling of total control in communicating with the car.
The PHEV comes with a newly developed large-capacity lithium-ion battery. This provides extended cruise range in EV mode without compromising interior space, enabling EV mode operation for most daily trips.











Source: Toyota

[volkman10]

Toyota Crown earns top safety pick+ award.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-12...b_channel=IIHS

[volkman10]

2025 Toyota Crown Signia is the mid-size SUV for the US market.

The new hybrid-electric SUV from the automaker goes on sale next summer, joining the Crown sedan in the company's US portfolio.

for the North American market, they are pulling out the fancier Crown Signia nameplate hoping to emphasize that it will provide a more luxurious experience compared to other Toyota models, while also avoiding the stigma that comes with wagons on this side of the Atlantic.
The Crown Signia fits in Toyota’s lineup, as the SUV will effectively replace the Venza, which will be discontinued after the current model year.

The only powertrain available is Toyota's Hybrid Electric Vehicle system that pairs a 2.5-liter four-cylinder engine with two electric motors. It has three driving modes: Eco, Normal, and Sport. Eco maximizes battery range and fuel efficiency, while Sport sharpens the throttle response. An EV Mode allows the Crown to travel on only electricity at low speeds for short distances.

The system produces 243 horsepower and returns 36 miles per gallon combined. Toyota makes its electronic all-wheel drive standard on the model with a rear-mounted electric motor powering the back wheels. It can tow up to 2,700 pounds and it has a continuously variable transmission,













The 2025 Crown Signia will begin reaching dealers next summer.


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