[apollo_1999]

Jeep is selling the highly profitable compass in quiet healthy numbers when compared to its in segment competitors but in terms of overall market share the numbers are on a lower side.
I believe that they do really want into tap into the growing market of compact and mid-size suv which are now dominated by the Korean twins.
If Jeep can launch the products within a year and price it competitively then there will be a lot of takers considering the aspirational value of the jeep brand.

[cuboid]

Is this even in consideration for India? There was talk of Renegade for a few years, till it died down. Now this. Do we know if Stellantis India plans to bring this into India in 2023, if at all?

Originally Posted by volkman10

Jeep's new B-SUV will be produced in Poland and could debut as early as the next Paris Motor Show, and then arrive on the market in the first months of next year.

[Indepth]

Jeep is apparently making huge profits on Compass. Atleast the pricing suggests so.

Moreover by regularly revising compass prices, they are creating a space for a Creta competitor. If they intend to do so, now is the time with car prices/ demand at all time high. There are no signs of recession or slowdown.

Even Mahindra has priced ScorpioN at regular price, not so disruptive as expected. Still see the bookings they gathered.

[dular]

Originally Posted by steadfast

By this logic the iphones should cost just a few thousands.

So, what would be your logic/criteria? Curious to know !

[volkman10]

Originally Posted by cuboid

Is this even in consideration for India? There was talk of Renegade for a few years, till it died down. Now this. Do we know if Stellantis India plans to bring this into India in 2023, if at all?

Yes, the CUV is India bound (ICE variant to start with). Renegade was never a contention for the Indian market, though a lot of hype in the Indian media was created.

[docted]

In an interview with Autocar India, Partha Datta was committed to a Baby Jeep,”i am razor focused” was the words he used.
link to interview

https://youtu.be/b3kBoR-8IrM

[CrAzY dRiVeR]

Originally Posted by dular

So, what would be your logic/criteria? Curious to know !

There is no hard segmentation rule based on length except 4m and sub-4m segments due to taxation differences. Usually a combination of all factors - and even public perception that defines a segment.

For example - Let's take your argument of Compass being in Creta segment because of the length difference -

Originally Posted by dular

Lengthwise:
Tucson: 4630 mm
Compass: 4405 mm
Creta: 4300 mm

Where would you fit the below products? Should they fit below Tucson? Or should it be considered a Compass rival?
Mercedes GLA - 4436mm
Volvo XC40 - 4425mm

And what is Tucson segment? By the same criteria you define for Compass - isn't Tucson just an overpriced entrant in XUV 7OO 5L / Harrier / Hector segment? And an extremely overpriced one at that due to CKD? Compare even top end features like ADAS, or engine and performance specs, etc and the XUV 7OO compares with the Tucson in almost every way. But would you place them in same segments?

Tucson: 4630 mm
XUV 7OO: 4695mm
Harrier: 4598mm
Hector: 4655mm

The previous generation of the Tucson was 4475mm. The newer generation has grown for sure, but competes in the same segment internationally. The price difference in India is due to CKD taxation. Common scenario across brands that products grow in size from one generation to the other - mostly will happen to the Compass too in the next generation. The current generation is almost at the last years of its lifecycle and getting outdated especially when it comes to engine specs and lack of hybrid (some markets like ours)/pure EV models.

Coming back to the topic of the baby Jeep - I hope they don't dilute stuff to fit the segment standards for India. Hyundai/Kia has mastered the art of making nice top bodies on cheap platforms which look and feel good in the short term, but fail a longer term (personal experience). By forcing others to match them - we are essentially asking other companies to dilute their brand identity as well. (Example- Interior build quality downgrade with Skoda in Kushaq). End of the day we dont need every manufacrer to do a Hyundai/Kia on us!

Finally - the biggest factor is just that the customers are willing to pay the money asked by companies for their products, irrespective of which segment they are defined into!

[dular]

Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR

There is no hard segmentation rule based on length except 4m and sub-4m segments due to taxation differences. Usually a combination of all factors - and even public perception that defines a segment.

The length was just thrown in as an example to start the discussion on what is the criteria for comparison. I would like to include engine power, features also into the list.

Unfortunately, I am still waiting for someone to lay down that criteria.

If public perception is also included then I rest my case. I was interested in objective criteria. Public perception is subjective in my opinion.

[LTAutoMad]

Having seen Jeep's pricing, this also would be exorbitantly priced - maybe a few lakhs below the Compass and way above the obvious rivals by size / power.

Jeep is a premium, import product in most countries (other than the USA & a few others) and they price it accordingly.

[volkman10]

Teaser to the 4xe day!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXl2...b_channel=Jeep

[volkman10]

'Baby' Jeep spied on the road probably for the very last time, unveil very soon!













Link

[volkman10]

Revealed Jeep Avenger:

The Jeep® brand reveals next phase of its all-electric product offensive to become the global Zero-Emission SUV leader
The brand will introduce four all-electric SUVs in North America and in Europe by 2025
Electrified models will be offered across the entire U.S. portfolio, including Wagoneer 4xe vehicles
50% of sales in the U.S. and 100% of sales in Europe will be battery-electric vehicles (BEV) by 2030
The brand premieres two all-new, all-electric, global SUVs
Jeep Avenger, first-ever fully electric Jeep SUV for Europe, will debut at the Paris Motor Show on October 17

All-new Jeep Avenger, the First-ever Fully Electric Jeep SUV, Arrives in Europe in 2023

The first model of this product offensive is the all-new, all-electric Jeep Avenger, a compact SUV that was presented during the Stellantis Dare Forward long-term strategic plan earlier this year.

The all-new Jeep Avenger, to be introduced in Europe and other markets, such as Japan and South Korea, will be positioned under the Jeep Renegade and will be produced in the high-efficiency plant in Tychy, Poland.

With a targeted electric range of 400 kilometres, this new SUV will offer impressive ground clearance, breakover and approach angles for its segment, while delivering a modern and technologically advanced interior, with plenty of space for people and cargo.

The Jeep Avenger will debut during the Paris Motor Show press day, on October 17, with reservations opening for customers that same day. The all-new Jeep Avenger will arrive in showrooms in early 2023.

















Source: Jeep

At first, the Jeep Avenger will be offered only with the electric assembly. But this will not be the only option. Our colleagues at Motor1.com Italy believe that the small SUV will inherit thermal engines, probably gasoline or diesel from its Peugeot-Citroën "cousins," such as the 1.2 PureTech and 1.5 BlueHDi.

A hybrid variant could still be a possibility, which would make the Jeep Avenger a model with appeal to the Brazilian market, given the expansion of electrification of Jeep here with the 4xe line and also the appearance of more models with SUV appeal in the category of subcompacts. Produced in Tychy at the Polish factory Stellantis, the Jeep Avenger will still give rise to future equivalent models of Fiat and Alfa Romeo.

The fact that it has an option with combustion engine and is done with the CMP platform makes it interesting for Brazil. Sources linked to the brand told Motor1.com they still needed to learn more about the project before making a decision on offering the new SUV in the country.

Thus, the Jeep Avenger will have a very different arrangement of controls from other Jeep cars, with a horizontal distribution of the elements, there also inherited from Peugeot-Citroën products that use the same platform. The last detail that draws attention is the presence of manual transmission, "delivering" the combustion engine of the prototype caught during the tests and confirming the presence of two types of transmission (manual and automatic).

[url="https://motor1.uol.com.br/news/609097/jeep-avenger-hibrido-lancamento/"] LINK [ /URL]

[PrathamTSI7DSG]

If they are really serious for selling this car in india. They need to open more dealerships and get a hold of their service costs.

[volkman10]

Jeep Avenger:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPmH...=PlanetCarNews

[volkman10]

All new Jeep® Avenger unveiled in Paris, the first-ever fully electric Jeep brand SUV. Pre-bookings open. Offered in ICE variants in select markets.

The first-ever Jeep BEV with zero emissions embodies brand DNA all within compact dimensions
Outstanding ground clearance, approach and departure angles with standard Selec-Terrain® and Hill Descent Control
New electric powertrain combines unique 400-volt electric motor with 115 kilowatts and 260 Nm of maximum torque and a new 54 kWh battery
Range of 400 km in WLTP cycle becomes 550 km in the urban cycle*
New Avenger spearheads introduction of a portfolio of all-new Jeep brand BEVs in Europe
Jeep brand to introduce four all-electric vehicles in Europe by 2025 on its path to become the leading electrified SUV brand in the world
Pre-booking opens today for Jeep Avenger Launch Edition – an exclusive eye-catching, fully-equipped version.

Using a 100 kW Mode 4 cable in direct current connected to fast public charge, three minutes of charge is enough to provide travel distance of 30 km. Also, 24 minutes are sufficient to charge the batteries from 20 to 80% charge.

Jeep has revealed all the keys to its first 100% electric SUV. A small SUV that stands out for its design, its technology and a propulsion system with up to[b] 400 kilometers

Taking advantage of the celebration of the Paris Motor Show 2022, the new Jeep Avenger has been presented in society. A small and very interesting electric SUV of which all the keys have been confirmed.


- It is the first in a long line of electric SUVs. It boasts design, technological equipment and, above all, solvent performance. Let's go into detail and review the most relevant features.

-The front features a slightly curved grille with seven slots. The grille connects directly with optical groups with LED technology.

- The Avenger has a ground clearance of 200 millimeters. The angle of attack is 20º while the starting angle is 32º. On the other hand, the ventral angle reaches 20º.

- The body can be painted in different colors. In addition, it sports a two-color finish. To all the customization options available during the configuration process we must add the more than 100 official accessories available.

- It is a digital and connected car. It is enough to settle in the driving position. It equips a digital instrument cluster whose size is 7 or 10.25 inches depending on the version. The "nerve center" is a 10.25-inch touchscreen. A key component to manage the infotainment system. The multimedia system is compatible with Android Auto and Apple CarPlay.

- the Avenger has unique equipment in its segment, such as leather-trimmed seats with electric adjustments and massage function, the multi-coloured ambient lighting system and the sunroof.

-Scattered throughout the cabin there are several holes to store objects. At the front alone there are 34 litres of storage space. In addition, we must bear in mind that the trunk covers a cargo volume of 380 liters, a figure that places it above the average of its category.


-As for the list of driver assistance systems, it is very broad. Among other technologies, it has adaptive cruise control, lane keeping assistant, traffic sign recognition, autonomous emergency braking with pedestrian and cyclist detection, driver drowsiness detector and blind spot monitoring.

-The "heart" of the Avenger is a new 54 kWh lithium-ion battery made up of 17 modules and 102 cells. Its main objective is to power a 115 kW (156 hp) engine and 260 Nm of maximum torque.


-the battery, which is located under the floor of the cabin, is produced by Stellantis and that the electric motor is the first launched by Emotors, a joint venture of Stellantis and Nidec Leroy-Somer Holding. The range reaches 400 kilometers according to the WLTP cycle. A figure that increases to 500 km if we attend exclusively to the urban cycle.













Jeep Avenger 1st Edition:

Starting today and continuing until November 30, there is a pre-booking initiative dedicated to the new Jeep Avenger 1st Edition – an exclusive, fully equipped and full electric, eye-catching configuration which in Italy and Spain only will also be available with a turbo petrol engine.

Exclusive to the BEV version, the new Avenger 1st Edition is equipped with Level 2 ADAS systems which help drivers to maintain their speed, the distance from the vehicle ahead and the center of the lane in a completely autonomous way.

Link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SV61...channel=DriveK