[volkman10]

All-new FWD and hybrid Toyota Innova could debut in November 2022.

Codenamed Project 560B, the all-new Innova could also be ditching the diesel-powered variants. That said, the all-new FWD Innova could be sold alongside the outgoing RWD Innova which would likely be offered for fleet usage.

The Toyota Innova has its roots traced back to the original Toyota Kijang, a model that put Indonesia on wheels. The Innova shares the same IMV platform as the mighty Hilux and Fortuner albeit with only a rear-wheel-drive (RWD) set-up but that soon may change.

The next-generation Innova could see the venerable Alphard for the masses switch to a conventional front-wheel-drive (FWD) layout.
This could see the Innova following the footsteps of its smaller and immensely popular brother, the Avanza which swapped RWD for FWD in the latest generation.

the source has refused to divulge any further information on the next-gen Innova’s platform as well as the type of powertrains used. We might see the all-new 7-seater wave goodbye to the IMV platform for a more modern TNGA platform, which we praised for its comfort.

Speculating between three engines :
– 1.8-litre 2ZR-FXE that is used on the Corolla Cross Hybrid,
- 2.5-litre Dynamic Force A25A-FXS from the Camry Hybrid
- 2.5-litre 2AR-FXE unit from the Alphard Hybrid.

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[DicKy]

Originally Posted by volkman10

All-new FWD and hybrid Toyota Innova could debut in November 2022.

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Isn't the 560B project some other small car project?

Guess, they will just use the Kijang or Innova name for this all new model. The current Innova may remain as it is, and shift to the next gen of the IMV platform when the Hilux and Fortuner does. Just trying to use the highly venerable Kijang name for the new hybrid model.

[padmrajravi]

Ditching diesel makes sense. Camry is an example of a petrol hybrid combination resulting in great mileage. If the mileage problem is sorted, there is no reason for a diesel powerplant. Having the electric motor also improves the low-end torque. With the hybrid setup, Innova's top end might just end up in the 40L on-road price though.

If Innova is switching to FWD, then it could mean a similar shift for Fortuner and Hilux too. I am not saying Fortuner will also become an FWD only, but the next-gen Fortuner's 4x4 capability could be based on motors in the rear axle just like the current generation Vellfire and RAV4. There are many international reviews praising the hybrid AWD configuration of RAV4 even with its trivial ground clearance. Vellfire's setup in Fortuner could well be able to match the existing Fortuner's off-road ability.

[DicKy]

Originally Posted by padmrajravi

Ditching diesel makes sense. Camry is an example of a petrol hybrid combination resulting in great mileage. If the mileage problem is sorted, there is no reason for a diesel powerplant. Having the electric motor also improves the low-end torque. With the hybrid setup, Innova's top end might just end up in the 40L on-road price though.

Rumours are that a diesel hybrid is under development by Toyota.

Originally Posted by padmrajravi

If Innova is switching to FWD, then it could mean a similar shift for Fortuner and Hilux too.... Vellfire's setup in Fortuner could well be able to match the existing Fortuner's off-road ability.

No, for the simple reason that the TNGA-F platform exists. With the grand daddy, Landcruiser, not changing course, there is little reason for the Fortuner to ditch the BoF, RWD/4X4 layout. Maybe the generation after that, but definitely not the next generation.

[padmrajravi]

Originally Posted by DicKy

No, for the simple reason that the TNGA-F platform exists. With the grand daddy, Landcruiser, not changing course, there is little reason for the Fortuner to ditch the BoF, RWD/4X4 layout. Maybe the generation after that, but definitely not the next generation.

That's a good point. Hopefully, the TNGA-F or a smaller variation of it will trickle down to midsize SUVs when that diesel hybrid come. For now, it has mainly been used with full-size SUVs and pickups.

[GTO]

Hybrids definitely have a strong case in India, whether with petrol or diesel. Just wondering why Toyota / Maruti / Hyundai and gang have been so slow. A 30 kmpl Swift or 22 kmpl Creta will just lick the market.

Not too sure about the hybrid on a body-on-frame diesel UV though, because their startup & shutdown processes are far from seamless. There is cabin shake, gear lever dancing, the engine rocking about on its mounts and what not. It's not like a smooth Camry or Prius where you can't even tell when the petrol engine came on (or shut off) while the hybrid tech does its magic.

[Axe77]

Originally Posted by GTO

Hybrids definitely have a strong case in India, whether with petrol or diesel. Just wondering why Toyota / Maruti / Hyundai and gang have been so slow. A 30 kmpl Swift or 22 kmpl Creta will just lick the market.

This is what baffles me too. I mean even a petrol hybrid Corolla Cross will easily sell in droves even at an on road price between 30 - 35 Lakh. That’s rich money by any measure and one would think worth Toyota’s while to be bringing in asap.

I still recall the first gen Fortuner took a good 5 - 6 years longer coming than it should have. Just see the sales of the Fortuner from day 1 and the potential loss of profit for that delayed period.

I guess that’s just how the Japs operate - always very bureaucratic and slow to respond.

[Storm2.0]

If this news is true, what should be the price of the same in Bangalore (OTR)? Can we expect it to touch the glorious 50 lakh mark?

[volkman10]

Toyota Kijang Hybrid: Toyota's First Hybrid Car in Indonesia!

Starting this year they will produce local electrification vehicles in Indonesia, starting with Hybrid cars aka HEV. Well, the main question that always arises is regarding what model will be introduced.

Minister of Industry Agus Gumiwang Kartasasmita some time ago leaked the figure of the first electrified vehicle to be produced by Toyota in the country.

Minister of Industry:

Toyota has also expressed its commitment to produce several types of electrification vehicles, which will begin with the production of Kijang Hybrid, and we will certainly continue to support and encourage the acceleration of electrification products or electric vehicles,

Well, from here, we can conclude that the first hybrid car to be produced by Toyota will use the name 'KIJANG'
What does it mean that the Toyota Kijang Innova sold today will be converted into a Hybrid car? It's not that easy. Why? Because we suspect the IMV platform currently used by Toyota Kijang Innova is not that easy to pair hybrid technology.

So, what does it mean that Toyota Kijang Innova will change generations with the emergence of this information?

We slightly underline the use of the word 'KIJANG' here which is not followed by the word 'Innova'. What does it mean that this car is a new car that will bear the name 'KIJANG' Hybrid?
Brings back to speculations, but need to take seriously is the fact that the Toyota Kijang Hybrid is the first HEV car produced by Toyota Indonesia.



The end of the Toyota Kijang Innova?

there was a project coded B560. The project is strongly suspected to have a medium form of MPV that will be marketed in the main market inhabited by the current Toyota Innova. Yep, emerging markets such as the ASEAN region and India appear to be the target of the B560.

And from that source, we got information that the B560 had the opportunity to use the name 'Innova' but with the addition behind it .

predict that the B560 is the 'Kijang Hybrid' referred to by the Minister of Industry.

This car will reportedly fill the market segment between the existing Toyota Veloz and Toyota Kijang Innova.

this car will use a monocoque frame with a front wheel motion system. And of course the hybrid technology if true B560 is the code of the Toyota Kijang Hybrid.

suspect it could be that the name used by this car will not use the frills 'Innova', and only use the name 'Kijang' only.

As for the export market, the better known name 'Innova' will be used by this car. That is, Toyota Kijang Hybrid and Toyota Kijang Innova will most likely be marketed in parallel alias simultaneousl


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[DicKy]

So my guess was correct.

The upcoming hybrid MPV using the Kijang name as it a very powerful brand in Indonesia. That was the source of confusion.

Only real confusion was whether it was the new B560 MPV or the Voxy/Noah that recently had a generational change.

IMHO, the present Innova/Innova Crysta as we know will stay on the IMV platform and may even have a next generation in the BoF, RWD form. Though, with the current Toyota ruthlessness, you never know.

[padmrajravi]

This one can take the fight against all the monocoque 7 seaters like Carens, XUV700 in India. Current gen BOF, RWD Crysta is anyway an odd one out in that league. A hybrid will provide a unique competitive advantage for Toyota in that group. The original Innova might coexist with the hybrid one milking whatever that is remaining of the BOF customers.