[Durango Dude]

Video grab of that moment in time. 304 mph feels so ordinary till you convert to kmph: 490.5 kmph is

[TN13Sleeper]

It's an ode to the true engineers. I'm just glad to see the R&D and engineering done to push the envelope of performance. ( Rather than development team working on material cost optimization, quartz cut projector headlights, diamond cut alloys and fuel efficiency )

[meta]

Originally Posted by TN13Sleeper

It's an ode to the true engineers. I'm just glad to see the R&D and engineering done to push the envelope of performance. ( Rather than development team working on material cost optimization, quartz cut projector headlights, diamond cut alloys and fuel efficiency )

I would say that's a bit skewed way of looking at things.

Going fast is not the only aspect of a car that needs "true" engineering. The other things you cited are no less complex in their own right, especially if you are pushing the limits of what's possible or how many existing techniques can be improved. Such improvements then trickle down and spread to numerous other products, including beyond automotive. It's just that the going fast aspect is glorified more because for a car, that sounds/seems natural.

Ironically, those who actually pay for these cars—the owners—even if they value (they often do) the knowledge that their car is capable of going X mph, it is also something they will never actually do because it is virtually impossible to pull off. For the Veyron, Bugatti had a program that offered an owner to take their car to the maximum speed at Ehra-Lessien under controlled conditions. It required a lot of planning and logistics. Of course, it wasn't free: it cost something like €200K. For the Chiron, I would not expect them to offer a 300mph+ program because the logistics of doing that are way more complicated and the safety issues are far bigger. In that sense, this feat of engineering is merely symbolic.

If I am buying such cars, I really appreciate all the unusual and unprecedented things manufacturers do to make the car more special as compared to other, more normal machines. When you "live" with a special car, as noted above, its top speed is something you virtually (I should say literally) never use, but its user interface and looks are something you deal with every time you are around or in the car. So, it matters that designers and engineers focus on those aspects just as much, if not more than on high-speed propulsion. Even something as boring-sounding as the paint is quite fascinating if you want to do things that have not been done before.

By the way, the 300mph+ Chiron is going to be called Bugatti Chiron Super Sport 300+. It is a limited run of 30 units. All will be painted the same color (black with orange livery) as the car they used for the record.

[Sheel]

Found this joke on various WWW

Cop: Do you know why I pulled you over today Sir?

Chiron owner: Because I let you.

[venkyhere]

Originally Posted by meta

If I am buying such cars, I really appreciate all the unusual and unprecedented things manufacturers do to make the car more special as compared to other, more normal machines. When you "live" with a special car, as noted above, its top speed is something you virtually (I should say literally) never use, but its user interface and looks are something you deal with every time you are around or in the car. So, it matters that designers and engineers focus on those aspects just as much, if not more than on high-speed propulsion. Even something as boring-sounding as the paint is quite fascinating if you want to do things that have not been done before.

That's just you. The typical bugatti buyer (by the company's own admission) owns on an average 50 cars (of which an average 10 are supercars) , so it's not the gizmos or the user experience tech that gets him wanting to buy it, but what he gets to brag to his passenger or friends/relatives at parties - "you know, it can do 300 mph". He wants the car as a symbol of the economic power at his disposal, an extention of the power his personality is supposed to exude. Bugatti to an oligarch, feathers to a male peacock - they are the same.

[meta]

Originally Posted by venkyhere

That's just you. The typical bugatti buyer (by the company's own admission) owns on an average 50 cars (of which an average 10 are supercars) , so it's not the gizmos or the user experience tech that gets him wanting to buy it, but what he gets to brag to his passenger or friends/relatives at parties - "you know, it can do 300 mph". He wants the car as a symbol of the economic power at his disposal, an extention of the power his personality is supposed to exude. Bugatti to an oligarch, feathers to a male peacock - they are the same.

Don't trust everything a corporation says, especially if it's something that can't really be proven or disproven and isn't legally binding in any case. How do you think Bugatti arrived at those averages anyway? A few hundred ultra-wealthy people simply shared details of their car and aircraft collections with Bugatti?

Even if there was a semblance of truth to this during the Veyron's time (perhaps a number of oil royals were sufficient to skew the averages), this isn't the case for the Chiron. I know a statistically significant number of Chiron customers and none would fit that description or demeanor. It's not just me. We live in a very different world today than 15 years ago.

I also think you missed my point. I did not say that the 300mph thing isn't important (in general or to me)—as a matter of fact it is! I have told Bugatti this numerous times and so have other customers: that it is important for them to have the "fastest car" because that's their heritage. My point was that all the other stuff is also important. If you've heard oligarch stories, haven't you heard about some of them putting gold and precious stones or whatever in / on their cars? Homologating cars while accommodating such requests takes engineering too!

[venkyhere]

Originally Posted by meta

I also think you missed my point. I did not say that the 300mph thing isn't important (in general or to me)—as a matter of fact it is! I have told Bugatti this numerous times and so have other customers: that it is important for them to have the "fastest car" because that's their heritage. My point was that all the other stuff is also important. If you've heard oligarch stories, haven't you heard about some of them putting gold and precious stones or whatever in / on their cars? Homologating cars while accommodating such requests takes engineering too!

Of course, my intention was not to belittle the engineering involved in 'user experience' beyond the speed and power. Maybe I should have been more lucid, the point I was making was - the 24carat gold plating and diamonds in speakers et al, come 'after' the bragging right swings the decision. Customizations are the way to make sure prospective customers (or their significant others) dont come up with excuses like "but this colour is so off" or "i need my lucky colour no matter what" even exist, so that the buying decision stays put. The garnish only adds to the appeal, the primary draw is still the food underneath.

[meta]

Originally Posted by venkyhere

Of course, my intention was not to belittle the engineering involved in 'user experience' beyond the speed and power. Maybe I should have been more lucid, the point I was making was - the 24carat gold plating and diamonds in speakers et al, come 'after' the bragging right swings the decision. Customizations are the way to make sure prospective customers (or their significant others) dont come up with excuses like "but this colour is so off" or "i need my lucky colour no matter what" even exist, so that the buying decision stays put. The garnish only adds to the appeal, the primary draw is still the food underneath.

You seem convinced that this is how the hypercar/ultra-expensive-car scene works and this is how things are, but how did you draw this conclusion?

[CEF_Beasts]

Bugatti Chiron Sport and Dassault Rafale on an airstrip!

https://youtu.be/-zDm5GOeE_Y

https://youtu.be/sROnHiBZF00

[Venkatesh]

New Variant Of Bugatti Chiron teased ahead of June 8 debut.

The company's info heavily hints the possibility is that this is the production version of the Chiron Super Sport 300+

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[Venkatesh]

Bugatti Chiron Super Sport revealed. Bugatti has revived the Super Sport name for an uprated version of the Chiron, which will serve as a sister model to the recently launched Chiron Pur Sport.



The new addition to the Chiron line-up shares its mechanicals - and most of its styling - with the Chiron Super Sport 300+, a limited-run special edition based on the specially adapted Chiron that achieved a record-breaking top speed of 304mph in 2019.



The Super Sport takes its power from a quad-turbocharged 8.0-litre W16 petrol engine, tuned to match the 1578bhp output of the 304mph car. Maximum engine speed is up 300rpm over the standard Chiron, at 7100rpm, while maximum torque - some 1180lb ft - is now available across a broader rev range.



The chassis has been comprehensively modified in line with the car's revised styling and dual focus. The steering and dampers, for example, have been firmed up for improved high-speed stability and smoother cornering behaviour, while the bespoke Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 tyres are said to offer enhanced rigidity and smoothness over those of the Pur Sport.



Bugatti claims these are the only tyres in the world capable of driving consistently at speeds of 500kph (311mph), thanks to a thorough post-production X-ray inspection and trials on the same testing machine used for the Space Shuttle's tyres.



The Chiron Super Sport will enter production in early 2022 limited to 30 production models.













World Premiere

https://youtu.be/xIdj0us5us4

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[Venkatesh]

Bugatti Chiron Super Sport makes public debut at the Milano Monza Open-Air Motor Show in Italy, is a special event for Bugatti.

https://youtu.be/jcrjBKt8JKg

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[devilking]

Bugatti has opened a new showroom in Singapore. Bugatti Chiron Pur Sport is available here for a price tag of SGD 4.98 million.

The catch - You can't drive it out of the showroom. Bugatti produces only left hand drive cars so no car from the showroom can be legally driven on Singapore roads.

https://cnaluxury.channelnewsasia.co...restige-189451

[Venkatesh]

First Bugatti Chiron Super Sport 300+ ready for launch.



The Chiron Super Sport 300+ is the first production car to explore a new dimension of straight-line performance.



Having now completed its extensive two-year testing and development program, the first eight of just 30 highly exclusive vehicles are now ready for delivery.



The sold out Chiron Super Sport 300+ limited to just 30 vehicles are being built at Bugatti’s headquarters in Molsheim, France, each starting at a net price of 3.5 million euros.

Exploring uncharted territory at speeds of up to 440 km/h requires an abundance of power. With a colossal power output of 1,600 PS produced by a modified version of Bugatti’s iconic 8.0-liter W16 engine, the Chiron Super Sport 300+ exceeds the Chiron’s output by 100 PS.

The Chiron Super Sport 300+’s streamlined bodywork is crafted using exposed jet-black carbon fiber, complemented by a Jet Orange racing stripe running through the center of the car. Carbon continues to flow through into the car’s engine cover, and even the windscreen wiper.

Subtle touches including the Bugatti “Macaron” logo made of genuine silver and black enamel add to the sense of exclusivity and rarity. Extremely light and strong magnesium alloy wheels are finished in a bespoke color named “Nocturne”.

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[anjan_c2007]

Bugatti Veyron and Chiron doing their top speeds on autobahn. The Chiron touched 417 kmph

https://youtu.be/czED2FSc508?feature=shared