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Originally Posted by VeluM Getting a bit vehement, aren't we? |
Oh no! Not at all! Please don't take my posts the wrong way. I enjoy a good debate!
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Originally Posted by VeluM People compare things to what they look like. Probably unrelated, but an example is the Aria, and it being compared to the Innova. Yeti is (from the pics in this thread itself) not much taller than the Fabia, and doesn't look much larger either. There might be better space management and materials, but even I find the overall shape to be similar to the Fusion. |
I've noticed that. And actually, there is a substantial difference between the Fabia and the Yeti when it comes to size. Don't be fooled by the small-ish looking exterior. It's quite a spacious car! Yes, the shape does remind one of the Fusion. But it is definitely bigger that one.
You'll be surprised that the Figo, which is loosely based on the Fusion, is actually pretty much the same size as the Fusion. They've just given it smaller wheels, a slight slope in the roof-line and they've lost those SUV-derived whee-arches. It boils down to the design at the end of the day. A big car can be made to look small and vice-versa.
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Originally Posted by VeluM This comparison is based on the seating/loading space. Another point of comparison that is quite common in India. You may not like it, but that's the way it is. |
Well, then we should compare the Innova/Safari, etc. to the CRV then. But then, that would be wrong. Anyway, I've got your point and you're right. It is compared. And unfortunately, it's just the way it is.
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Originally Posted by VeluM I know numerous people who have bought or would consider buying an Innova just because it is bigger than the other options in the same price range. Diesel also counts, but not when you look at their monthly running. This would be the "More is Better" people, and there are a lot of them too. Why that should be a bad thing is something I didn't understand, so you might want to elucidate. |
Precisely!
You've hit the nail on the head with this one. 'More the better' is the attitude of the people. And I'd like to add to this by saying: People prefer to get the 'more the better' if it comes cheaper. So basically, it would be: 'more and cheaper, the better'!
It isn't particularly a bad thing. But this is the reason why larger hatch-backs (like the Golf) and smaller SUVs/soft-roaders/cross-overs (like the Yeti) might not go down to well with the majority. It just goes to show that India might be an growing market and an emerging player in the automotive world, but they are a long way off as it still has to attain that level of maturity.
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Originally Posted by VeluM What is the purpose of the Yeti? It is a crossover in the shape of an SUV, without the ground-clearance to do any serious off-roading, yet has features which a proper 4x4 would probably benefit from. How that helps (besides bumping up the price) is again something I did not understand. Maybe it is just me, but I honestly wouldn't be tempted to buy a vehicle if I need someone else to explain why I need it, or why I should ignore the mildly ridiculous price-tag. |
The purpose of the Yeti? I've mentioned this before.
You see, there are several nuclear-families that would love to have a great car like the Laura, parked in their garage. But, the catch is that the roads in India aren't favorable for these sort of sedans. Besides, being a part of a typical family like this would mean that road-trip/holidays are on the cards.
That's where the Yeti swoops in. It's a great car that offers the little luxuries that cars like the Laura offer whilst possessing the ability to tackle the rough country roads and the massive craters and speed-breakers that the city throws at it. Something that the Laura would struggle to do. And surprise, surprise! It's priced at the same point! What more would you need?
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Originally Posted by GloryManUnited The OTR price of the Laura MT elegance in Bangalore is 18.79L. The general feeling is that the yeti in the same trim will be +2L. So we should be looking at around 20.79L. We will know on 15th Nov.
In my opinion if this is how it will be priced, the yeti will be very successful. There is no other soft-roader at that price point with the economy of diesel. The people who will buy the yeti will be very different from the people who patronize the fortuner. There is enough room for both the markets.
If it retails at this price, the talk about this being over-priced is mis-placed. I don't see any justification for this being priced in 10-12L range considering this is a Laura + some ! |
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Originally Posted by akshay1234 I quite like the Yeti, and I think if its about 17-18 on road it would be quite ok. It will create its own niche segment, since its not really a substitute for anything, but will be bought by people who like it, not because it serves a purpose.
I would buy it if I wanted something higher than a sedan, which drives like one, which has all the features you could want, with a nice engine+gearbox combo, yet small enough for the city. Personally I think it will do reasonably well.
Also it is supposed to be quite a capable offroader. Of course not what the crazy guys on tbhp do, but nonetheless, the 4x4 Haldex system certainly isnt a waste.
Frankly, next year I will be in this dilemma, and if the Laura Vrs dosent launch, or the Laura L&K is out of my budget, I will be happy to pick one of these up.
And id love to see this with a tsi engine and a DSG. Lol now im really wishing too much, but at least a DSG should be launched soon. |
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With the both of you!
You've got it absolutely spot-on, IMO!
You see, there might be people who compare two cars from different segments based on their size in relation to their price OTR. But there are people who understand the utility of that vehicle and would vouch for it. I hope that one day, more people would understand this. And once that happens, we will find new segments emerging in our market and we will start to see cars on our roads that we otherwise, dream about now. For example, the VW Golf, the Ford Focus hatch, the Renault jingbat and not to mention, many more crossovers like the Toyota RAV4!