i10 registered as sedan in RC from RTO

srikanths1 · 21st December 2009, 13:03

Looks like there is no classification for hatchback in the smart card. While the old RC books had it, my new smart card for the old indica v2 shows it as a saloon. I just noticed it after this thread... quiet interesting !!

navan49 · 21st December 2009, 13:18

The definition for sedan is given like this some where:

A hatchback is a sedan or coupe, with a trunk lid that hinges above the rear winow. If there is a backseat, seatback folds down. The whole arrangement allows for easy access to a max luggage area.

This is another reference of Wikipedia

Saloon may refer to:

Sedan (automobile), an enclosed car body style with a separate boot (trunk)

So there is not much difference with in these. In my Ritz the Tamilnadu RTO office was not having the code for Ritz in their Software so they have hand written as Ritz VDI and did not suffix ABS. That does n't matter. As far as ABS meant for the break system I did not bother much on all these.

vivprasad · 21st December 2009, 13:25

My i10 Magna, bought in February 2009, is registered as a "Saloon".

Gilead · 21st December 2009, 13:26

These kind of mistakes are common in the RTO. I have a Fiesta S and the RC book had ZXi printed on it. It was manually corrected later with a seal next to it.

teknophobia · 21st December 2009, 13:47

My Indica is registered as a saloon, a synonym for sedanm and you'll find this classification in the RC books for most cars, no one really cares.

In any case, if you're willing to accept wikipedia as a authoritative source, this is what it has to say: "A vehicle with four passenger doors and a liftgate at the rear can be called a four-door hatchback, four-door hatchback sedan, or five-door sedan. "

wildon · 21st December 2009, 13:57

Well i have not accepted my RC Smart card after i found a mistake in the same. My car is listed as 1.4 L and i own a 1.2 L. The dealer was initially given some excuses as they can't do anything for this etc.. but few phone calls made the difference. Getting the Smart Card with correct details in a day or two.

Latheesh · 21st December 2009, 13:58

My colleagues i10 is registered as 'sedan'.

My Sparky RC says it is 'hatch'

Mr.Bangalore · 21st December 2009, 14:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Latheesh

My colleagues i10 is registered as 'sedan'.

My Sparky RC says it is 'hatch'

are these in the smart card? and how old are these cars?

wildon · 21st December 2009, 15:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Bangalore

hello all,

I need a clarification regarding the i10.

Recently i got a smart card from the RTO, there it was mentioned car type as sedan instead of hatchback.
One of my friend who bought i10 1.1 after me also got the same thing sedan. the RTO is Yeshwanthapur RTO Bangalore.
Can i10 owners in the fourm clarify the same or do i have to change it or it will be a problem in future.

No Need to "blame" the RTO. The manufacturer itself given this details to the RTO. In Hyundai Cars the 6th digit of VIN represent Body Type.

If its 5 then the definition given by Hyundai is 5= Sedan, 5 Door in the case of i10 & i20

Latheesh · 21st December 2009, 16:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Bangalore

are these in the smart card? and how old are these cars?

Yes they are smart cards

Spark - Aug 2009 registered
i10 - Dec 2009 registered

khoj · 21st December 2009, 22:30

My December 2008 swift zxi is also registered as a sedan by RTO office at Pen, Maharashtra. Anyone else with MH06 hatchbacks with sedan/saloon on their smart cards?

Latheesh · 22nd December 2009, 00:25

My guess, anything above 1000cc they register as sedan :-)

wildon · 22nd December 2009, 00:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Latheesh

My guess, anything above 1000cc they register as sedan :-)

Please read this article first.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedan_(automobile) also this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatchback

Quote:

Hatchback (a.k.a. liftback) sedans typically have the fastback profile, but instead of a trunk lid, the entire back of the vehicle lifts up (using a liftgate or hatch). A vehicle with four passenger doors and a liftgate at the rear can be called a four-door hatchback, four-door hatchback sedan, or five-door sedan.

schitre05 · 22nd December 2009, 09:45

My Vista QJD 09 is registered as a saloon
When asked the dealer about why a saloon and not a hatch, his reply was :
The manufacturer (here TATA) gives the details of the new car to the RTO. The RTO has set category of cars like sedan, saloon etc and its the RTO that decides where the car fits and in which category.
I dont know the validity of this answer but accepted the card as the dealer assured me, it wont be a problem in the future even if i sell the car.

All this just makes me wonder whether the RTO is trying to extract extra money from the customer if a car is labelled as sedan/saloon rather than a hatch.

Latheesh · 22nd December 2009, 11:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by wildon

Please read this article first.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedan_(automobile) also this Hatchback - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I know this, my comment is from RTO's point of view

21st December 2009, 13:03	#31
srikanths1 BANNED Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 142 Thanked: 3 Times	Looks like there is no classification for hatchback in the smart card. While the old RC books had it, my new smart card for the old indica v2 shows it as a saloon. I just noticed it after this thread... quiet interesting !!
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21st December 2009, 13:18	#32
navan49 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: CHENNAI Posts: 1,001 Thanked: 73 Times View My Garage	The definition for sedan is given like this some where: A hatchback is a sedan or coupe, with a trunk lid that hinges above the rear winow. If there is a backseat, seatback folds down. The whole arrangement allows for easy access to a max luggage area. This is another reference of Wikipedia Saloon may refer to: Sedan (automobile), an enclosed car body style with a separate boot (trunk) So there is not much difference with in these. In my Ritz the Tamilnadu RTO office was not having the code for Ritz in their Software so they have hand written as Ritz VDI and did not suffix ABS. That does n't matter. As far as ABS meant for the break system I did not bother much on all these.
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21st December 2009, 13:25	#33
vivprasad BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Lucknow Posts: 154 Thanked: 115 Times	My i10 Magna, bought in February 2009, is registered as a "Saloon".
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21st December 2009, 13:26	#34
Gilead Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 2,142 Thanked: 60 Times	These kind of mistakes are common in the RTO. I have a Fiesta S and the RC book had ZXi printed on it. It was manually corrected later with a seal next to it.
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21st December 2009, 13:47	#35
teknophobia BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: WB/MH Posts: 389 Thanked: 128 Times	My Indica is registered as a saloon, a synonym for sedanm and you'll find this classification in the RC books for most cars, no one really cares. In any case, if you're willing to accept wikipedia as a authoritative source, this is what it has to say: "A vehicle with four passenger doors and a liftgate at the rear can be called a four-door hatchback, four-door hatchback sedan, or five-door sedan. " Last edited by teknophobia : 21st December 2009 at 13:49. Reason: adding entry from wikipedia
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21st December 2009, 13:57	#36
wildon BANNED Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,443 Thanked: 1,245 Times View My Garage	Well i have not accepted my RC Smart card after i found a mistake in the same. My car is listed as 1.4 L and i own a 1.2 L. The dealer was initially given some excuses as they can't do anything for this etc.. but few phone calls made the difference. Getting the Smart Card with correct details in a day or two.
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21st December 2009, 13:58	#37
Latheesh Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: CNN/BLR Posts: 4,289 Thanked: 10,286 Times	My colleagues i10 is registered as 'sedan'. My Sparky RC says it is 'hatch'
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21st December 2009, 22:30	#41
khoj Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Dilli Posts: 2,718 Thanked: 1,287 Times View My Garage	My December 2008 swift zxi is also registered as a sedan by RTO office at Pen, Maharashtra. Anyone else with MH06 hatchbacks with sedan/saloon on their smart cards?
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22nd December 2009, 00:25	#42
Latheesh Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: CNN/BLR Posts: 4,289 Thanked: 10,286 Times	My guess, anything above 1000cc they register as sedan :-)
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22nd December 2009, 09:45	#44
schitre05 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Mumbai Posts: 457 Thanked: 176 Times View My Garage	My Vista QJD 09 is registered as a saloon When asked the dealer about why a saloon and not a hatch, his reply was : The manufacturer (here TATA) gives the details of the new car to the RTO. The RTO has set category of cars like sedan, saloon etc and its the RTO that decides where the car fits and in which category. I dont know the validity of this answer but accepted the card as the dealer assured me, it wont be a problem in the future even if i sell the car. All this just makes me wonder whether the RTO is trying to extract extra money from the customer if a car is labelled as sedan/saloon rather than a hatch.
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