Petra 1.6 ELX vs Baleno LXi

camry93 · 21st July 2005, 13:26

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Originally Posted by RX135

Relax, camry! You should not mind driving a vintage car if it is superior to contemporary cars in many respects. Well, at least I don't!

Not feeling bad at all. The discussion is about technical/driveability factors. Its just the personal slant I do not appreciate much.

Buffetfan · 21st July 2005, 19:02

I agree that Petra is more VFM....but owning a Fiat is also more HFM (Headache for your money)....I have owned a fiat uno for 5 years...and while I still agree that no other car would survive the places and non existent roads I took it to....at insane speeds..........I also believe that no other service centers could give me more headache than a Fiat could....I have been in touch with Anand Mohan Gupta (Previous Director Commerical) Vijay Chandorikar (director commercial before A M Gupts...), Alberto Montanari (Previous CEO), M.P. Bianchi (CEO Before Alberto Montanari). For more details about my fiat experience...read http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/showth...9888#post99888
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It has been a rather tough ride....what with bad ASS and poor reliability of some of components....
I bought a Baleno recently and the service attitude is certainly better.....Agree that Petra is more solidly built...but what is the use with such pathetic ASS....I and I also sometimes think After Sales Service is wrongly blamed sometimes....the poor guys are overloaded with Fiat Cars giving so many problems in general....

balenopower · 21st July 2005, 19:53

hfm

.....wht a riot.......the only reason for dismal sales for fiat has to be its a.s.s....wonder when they'll realise that and get their act together.

normally_crazy · 21st July 2005, 20:28

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Originally Posted by Samurai

I was replying to message #25 which was denying that.

and where did post # 40 deny that ?? i said the petra ax was as good as the baleno.

greatDrive · 21st July 2005, 20:34

For people who are have been voting Baleno over Petra, find there names in this thread.. I hope Petra Voters will definetly like it, This is what Maruti ASS is nowdays.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5354

Insane Devil · 21st July 2005, 22:33

to me, IMHO, the petra looks very outdated compared to the Baleno. The Baleno looks more sporty, sofisticated and elegant than the Petra. and my vote to Maruti anyday, compated to Fiat. I would look at the long term availability of spare parts, good suply of them, etc too, and Maruti's service backup is the best.

Baleno it is!

aseem · 22nd July 2005, 00:27

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Originally Posted by Insane Devil

to me, IMHO, the petra looks very outdated compared to the Baleno. The Baleno looks more sporty, sofisticated and elegant than the Petra. and my vote to Maruti anyday, compated to Fiat. I would look at the long term availability of spare parts, good suply of them, etc too, and Maruti's service backup is the best.

Baleno it is!

I am not sure which one looks better... the question should be which one looks uglier???

But on a serious note I never liked the look of Baleno, it looks like a over inflated lady. However seeing Icemans black baleno with mods made me change my mind.

turbo_lover · 22nd July 2005, 00:30

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Originally Posted by aseem

However seeing Icemans black baleno with mods made me change my mind.

he used to own a silver baleno..i think samurai owns a black baleno..which is stock except for the rims ...

RX135 · 22nd July 2005, 00:38

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Originally Posted by greatDrive

For people who are have been voting Baleno over Petra, find there names in this thread.. I hope Petra Voters will definetly like it, This is what Maruti ASS is nowdays.
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5354

No offense mate, but I would be rather happy to have better A/S/S for Fiat than feeling good about poor A/S/S from Maruti. I would like Petra to win due to its merits, not due to fallacies of Baleno

Buffetfan · 22nd July 2005, 01:34

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Originally Posted by greatDrive
For people who are have been voting Baleno over Petra, find there names in this thread.. I hope Petra Voters will definetly like it, This is what Maruti ASS is nowdays.
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5354[/PHP]

Hi Mate,
just because the people have issues with Baleno...(and all vehicles have them) ..does not mean that Fiat A/S/S becomes better...I do hope that all of us are here to benefit from the collective experiences that we have had.

I have owned both a Fiat and a couple of Marutis for some time...and continue to own both of them..In fact I would like to believe that am one of the few persons here who have both a Maruti and a Fiat vehicle....and because of this fact, I have a close perspective of how A/S/S is in both companies...

.....if you do believe that my comments reg their comparative A/S/S have some merit...please go through them...if not..simply ignore...

we are not trying to hide the Baleno problems here and criticise Petra....

Samurai · 22nd July 2005, 09:13

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Originally Posted by aseem

However seeing Icemans black baleno with mods made me change my mind.

As turbo_lover said, iceman had silver Baleno and I have the black Baleno with 195/60R14 Yokohamas on BSA alloys. The tyre/wheel upgrade and black color really makes a major difference to Baleno looks. My father-in-law was very unhappy I bought a Baleno, however when he saw it in personal, he was very impressed. The only other performance mod I have is stock K&N replacement filter.

Puffdamgcdragon · 22nd July 2005, 09:26

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Originally Posted by Conan

Man tbhp is biased or what!!...towards petra.
Baleno is a whole size bigger than petra for gods sake!!.
Petra is nothing but a palio with a boot.
Cant comment on other parameters, since i havent driven them.
But heard Baleno has class leading fuel efficiency in 6-7 lac bracket.

Conan

I agree with U. Most people here are missing one imp. point. To normal everyday people who are not too concerned with 0-100 kmph performance, with both cars being almost similar as far as most parameters go, stuff like premium feel and even the color take added significance.

In the eyes of the Janta, the Baleno is a premium Maruti product whereas the Petra will always be a Palio with a Boot- A variant.

Of course, the front end of the Baleno is somewhat similar to the Alto, but U couldn't say that it is a bigger Alto or an alto w a boot.

Simply put, it's a more premium car in the perception of most people as compared to the Booted Palio.

sivadas · 22nd July 2005, 10:39

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Originally Posted by Puffdamgcdragon

Simply put, it's a more premium car in the perception of most people as compared to the Booted Palio.

If you are talking about perception of people, there isn't some thing called Perception on Petra since most of the poeple have never seen this car or even heard of it.

And the general impression on Baleno is also really bad compared to Accent or Ikon. As far as I understand, generally people some how do not consider it as premium.

greatDrive · 22nd July 2005, 11:20

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Originally Posted by Puffdamgcdragon

Of course, the front end of the Baleno is somewhat similar to the Alto, but U couldn't say that it is a bigger Alto or an alto w a boot.

Thats because Baleno back is more uglier than Alto

v1p3r · 22nd July 2005, 11:52

Can we tone down the anti-Baleno-ness a bit, please? It's back isn't too great, but it's quick enough that most people only see the back.

Baby got back!!!

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21st July 2005, 19:02	#62
Buffetfan Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 1,130 Thanked: 216 Times	I agree that Petra is more VFM....but owning a Fiat is also more HFM (Headache for your money)....I have owned a fiat uno for 5 years...and while I still agree that no other car would survive the places and non existent roads I took it to....at insane speeds..........I also believe that no other service centers could give me more headache than a Fiat could....I have been in touch with Anand Mohan Gupta (Previous Director Commerical) Vijay Chandorikar (director commercial before A M Gupts...), Alberto Montanari (Previous CEO), M.P. Bianchi (CEO Before Alberto Montanari). For more details about my fiat experience...read http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/showth...9888#post99888 ..... It has been a rather tough ride....what with bad ASS and poor reliability of some of components.... I bought a Baleno recently and the service attitude is certainly better.....Agree that Petra is more solidly built...but what is the use with such pathetic ASS....I and I also sometimes think After Sales Service is wrongly blamed sometimes....the poor guys are overloaded with Fiat Cars giving so many problems in general....
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21st July 2005, 19:53	#63
balenopower BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 957 Thanked: 467 Times View My Garage	hfm .....wht a riot.......the only reason for dismal sales for fiat has to be its a.s.s....wonder when they'll realise that and get their act together.
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21st July 2005, 20:34	#65
greatDrive BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 547 Thanked: 7 Times	For people who are have been voting Baleno over Petra, find there names in this thread.. I hope Petra Voters will definetly like it, This is what Maruti ASS is nowdays. http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5354
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21st July 2005, 22:33	#66
Insane Devil BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 987 Thanked: 173 Times View My Garage	to me, IMHO, the petra looks very outdated compared to the Baleno. The Baleno looks more sporty, sofisticated and elegant than the Petra. and my vote to Maruti anyday, compated to Fiat. I would look at the long term availability of spare parts, good suply of them, etc too, and Maruti's service backup is the best. Baleno it is!
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22nd July 2005, 11:52	#75
v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR / DXB / LON Posts: 5,360 Thanked: 7,371 Times View My Garage	Can we tone down the anti-Baleno-ness a bit, please? It's back isn't too great, but it's quick enough that most people only see the back. Baby got back!!!
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