New compact SUV from Premier Auto. EDIT: Rio quick testdrive on page 10

amtak · 13th September 2009, 01:08

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Originally Posted by Ym-enjn

It looks as if it will fall off on the first offroad jump.

Err, sir, I think Xylo too has similar door opening handle.

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Originally Posted by Ym-enjn

First right to object is of Toyota/Daihatsu and if they don't consider it a copy then it should be ok with us. What may be I think, we should atleast give them a fair chance. It opens a new segment and it might attract attention of Suzuki and Toyota.

Yes. We might just get the Jimny

or a Chinese chimney

invidious · 15th September 2009, 11:37

I spoke to someone who is arranging the PR for the launch of the PAL SUV - my retort - "Do you think given the checkered past of PAL with their Padmini, 118NE, Uno and the Peugeot 309 - anyone in his or her right mind will ever buy their car?"

TarCruiser · 15th September 2009, 16:26

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Originally Posted by Shivashara

Sx4 is also sold as Fiat Cedici in many European countries as a hatch back.

I knew Sx4 was designed by FIAT, but Sx4 being sold under FIAT brand was definitley a news

for me.

Perakath · 19th September 2009, 14:21

Is this the first time a China-manufactured passenger car is proposed to be sold in India?

I really have no idea which buyers PAL is attempting to target here. Is this car meant to compete with the Qualis/Innova/Tavera?

mpksuhas · 20th September 2009, 00:08

well, for me i felt it was more like a Tavera on a rectangular box

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Originally Posted by MaserQ

From the pictures, the front end of the PAL 'mini SUV' looks like a M800 on stilts and the side profile looks like a Suzuki Jimny.

The truth is, there is a market for a mini SUV, but can the PAL product fill that space? I am not so sure.

sumeetdas · 21st September 2009, 01:07

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Originally Posted by MaserQ

From the pictures, the front end of the PAL 'mini SUV' looks like a M800 on stilts and the side profile looks like a Suzuki Jimny.

The truth is, there is a market for a mini SUV, but can the PAL product fill that space? I am not so sure.

The vehicle's size/price is good, but an SUV and no 4x4 (optional)

PAL has not forgotten the Premier Padmini Saffari

Sujith1100 · 22nd September 2009, 11:14

they look cute and funny but NICE.
Female drivers will like them i guess in funky and peppy colours

pramodkumar · 22nd September 2009, 14:51

Guys,

I some how missed this thread, so i did my reading right from the first post. All are being cynical here, the reason being a chinese origin and sold off by premiar auto with a very low investment does not deem this to be a failure, this is going to do somthing that chinese mobiles did to the mobile market, this might not be bought by everyone but will be bought by a lot of people who think high GC and occational 4WD is required . This product has a lot of capabilities, and if priced right will do wonders, Since its a TUD 5 engine servicing it outside A S S wont be a huge issue, i might be being too optimistic but most of us who love an SUV cannot afford one because of the obscene pricing. Lets hope this one is priced right. This has the potential to be one of the biggest landmark idea in indian automobile sector but premiar needs to be little bit more linient here, this would mean instantly killing most of the MUV market here in india and i think the TUD 5 engine would be welcomed as everyone knows its a work horse and also provides great millage. I kinda like the loos as well, IMHO lot better than a lot of korean and Jap products which made it great here in our markets. This might open up this segment of mini SUV's and soon we can have some great players joining in to give us better products. I am surly going to put my hard earned money on this if it comes here.

Pramod

scooby05 · 22nd September 2009, 16:22

Tata Nano at 1.50 lacs for the poor man on a 2 wheeler with 4 of a family on it from Tata, and Now a SUV from Pal for the poor man aspiring to drive the rough and village roads for 5 lacs to beat the petrol Gypsy or Mahindra's, Not bad at all. Will sell better than the Fusion from Ford. PAL has been used to selling just about 15000 cars a year!!
We are looking at the emerging aspirational class of consumers in our country which is going thru an consumerism revolution and which every multinational over the world is looking at!

KRf1 · 22nd September 2009, 18:59

Nonsense . If the Rhino couldnt do anything then this chinese boxy two generations old car with no service backup and absolutely no brand value will just not sell .
Heck PAL would be better of manufacturing the Padmini again as a retro car and that would / could sell more than this !

Mr_Bean · 22nd September 2009, 21:15

PAL would eye the cab market, being a diesel one can see some pretty good sales.

Btw really don't understand the point of discussion in this thread.

allana13 · 23rd September 2009, 03:46

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Originally Posted by Mr_Bean

PAL would eye the cab market, being a diesel one can see some pretty good sales.

Btw really don't understand the point of discussion in this thread.

Historically PAL cars were popular among cabby's because of their reliability and the limited availability of different model of cars, however it doesn't mean any car they produce will be only for the cabby market.

aryashiv1 · 23rd September 2009, 10:09

In today HT Mumbai Edition, there is a big article and first drive report by Hormazd Sorabjee regarding the so called Premier's Mini SUV. Brief Spefication as under:
Price : Rs. 5 Lacs Approx.
Length: 3900 mm
Width: 1555mm
Height: 1670mm
Wheelbase: 2420mm
Turning Circle: 9.4mm
Kerb weight: 1145Kg
Engine: 4 cyl in line, 1489CC diesel
Power: 65 bhp at 4000 RPM
Torque: 14kgm at 2250 - 3000 rpm
Gear Box: 5 speed manual
Fuel Tank: 46 Liters
Brakes F/R: Ventilated disc/drums
Tyre Size: 205 / 70 R15

Premier wants to name it Rio or Terra.
Will try to scan the article and post here later.

allana13 · 23rd September 2009, 12:00

Will await the pictures. Can wait to seel the PAL logo again in action.

Comrade · 23rd September 2009, 14:51

HindustanTimes ePaper - Article

link to HT e-paper article

15th September 2009, 11:37	#77
invidious BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Bombay Posts: 882 Thanked: 1,440 Times	I spoke to someone who is arranging the PR for the launch of the PAL SUV - my retort - "Do you think given the checkered past of PAL with their Padmini, 118NE, Uno and the Peugeot 309 - anyone in his or her right mind will ever buy their car?"
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19th September 2009, 14:21	#79
Perakath BHPian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Chennai Posts: 261 Thanked: 31 Times	Is this the first time a China-manufactured passenger car is proposed to be sold in India? I really have no idea which buyers PAL is attempting to target here. Is this car meant to compete with the Qualis/Innova/Tavera?
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22nd September 2009, 11:14	#82
Sujith1100 BANNED Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: BANGalore Posts: 729 Thanked: 21 Times	they look cute and funny but NICE. Female drivers will like them i guess in funky and peppy colours
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22nd September 2009, 14:51	#83
pramodkumar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Gods own country Posts: 2,302 Thanked: 2,246 Times View My Garage	Guys, I some how missed this thread, so i did my reading right from the first post. All are being cynical here, the reason being a chinese origin and sold off by premiar auto with a very low investment does not deem this to be a failure, this is going to do somthing that chinese mobiles did to the mobile market, this might not be bought by everyone but will be bought by a lot of people who think high GC and occational 4WD is required . This product has a lot of capabilities, and if priced right will do wonders, Since its a TUD 5 engine servicing it outside A S S wont be a huge issue, i might be being too optimistic but most of us who love an SUV cannot afford one because of the obscene pricing. Lets hope this one is priced right. This has the potential to be one of the biggest landmark idea in indian automobile sector but premiar needs to be little bit more linient here, this would mean instantly killing most of the MUV market here in india and i think the TUD 5 engine would be welcomed as everyone knows its a work horse and also provides great millage. I kinda like the loos as well, IMHO lot better than a lot of korean and Jap products which made it great here in our markets. This might open up this segment of mini SUV's and soon we can have some great players joining in to give us better products. I am surly going to put my hard earned money on this if it comes here. Pramod Last edited by pramodkumar : 22nd September 2009 at 14:53.
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22nd September 2009, 16:22	#84
scooby05 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,145 Thanked: 193 Times	Tata Nano at 1.50 lacs for the poor man on a 2 wheeler with 4 of a family on it from Tata, and Now a SUV from Pal for the poor man aspiring to drive the rough and village roads for 5 lacs to beat the petrol Gypsy or Mahindra's, Not bad at all. Will sell better than the Fusion from Ford. PAL has been used to selling just about 15000 cars a year!! We are looking at the emerging aspirational class of consumers in our country which is going thru an consumerism revolution and which every multinational over the world is looking at!
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22nd September 2009, 18:59	#85
KRf1 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NCR / BLR Posts: 339 Thanked: 3 Times	Nonsense . If the Rhino couldnt do anything then this chinese boxy two generations old car with no service backup and absolutely no brand value will just not sell . Heck PAL would be better of manufacturing the Padmini again as a retro car and that would / could sell more than this !
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22nd September 2009, 21:15	#86
Mr_Bean BHPian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 894 Thanked: 241 Times View My Garage	PAL would eye the cab market, being a diesel one can see some pretty good sales. Btw really don't understand the point of discussion in this thread.
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23rd September 2009, 10:09	#88
aryashiv1 BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Mumbai Posts: 132 Thanked: 2 Times	In today HT Mumbai Edition, there is a big article and first drive report by Hormazd Sorabjee regarding the so called Premier's Mini SUV. Brief Spefication as under: Price : Rs. 5 Lacs Approx. Length: 3900 mm Width: 1555mm Height: 1670mm Wheelbase: 2420mm Turning Circle: 9.4mm Kerb weight: 1145Kg Engine: 4 cyl in line, 1489CC diesel Power: 65 bhp at 4000 RPM Torque: 14kgm at 2250 - 3000 rpm Gear Box: 5 speed manual Fuel Tank: 46 Liters Brakes F/R: Ventilated disc/drums Tyre Size: 205 / 70 R15 Premier wants to name it Rio or Terra. Will try to scan the article and post here later.
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23rd September 2009, 12:00	#89
allana13 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Maidenhead Posts: 541 Thanked: 8 Times View My Garage	Will await the pictures. Can wait to seel the PAL logo again in action.
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23rd September 2009, 14:51	#90
Comrade BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: HYD Posts: 644 Thanked: 1,814 Times	HindustanTimes ePaper - Article link to HT e-paper article
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