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penpavan · 15th May 2009, 19:21

Petrol version a bit overpriced. Anyone?

nipunkul · 15th May 2009, 19:55

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Originally Posted by penpavan

...overpriced.

really!! I find that to incredibly spot-on pricing. Tata has spoiled people

nickatnite · 15th May 2009, 20:27

Is this car UGLY, or what else can i say?.I didn't get a chance to check out the K12 engine. Both displays i saw were diesels.

manish7 · 15th May 2009, 20:43

I had a look at it in flesh! Sai service had dark blue ZXI on display, I didn't like the looks much. Swift looks better and not having ZDI is definitely deal breaker for me. Waiting for GP now.

Equus · 15th May 2009, 20:55

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Originally Posted by nipunkul

really!! I find that to incredibly spot-on pricing. Tata has spoiled people

Nope. The Ritz is engine is < 1200 CC and therefore 8% less excise duty compared to Swift's 1300 CC engine.

However given the fact that they share the DDIS engine, its a tough one to price Petrol cheaper than the Swift, while the diesel would be at par. They have played safe in saying both are in the premium segment.

harry10 · 15th May 2009, 21:19

Front is swiftish, rear is tad ugly and i didn't liked the interiors either. For me Swift still rules in looks department in the Maruti stable and is a better choice anyday.
A-star and now Ritz- any more UGLIES left?

Gagan.js · 15th May 2009, 22:30

Swift still wins at that price.

SAS · 15th May 2009, 23:48

Would definitely agree about it being overpriced by around $15-20k...maybe MSIL doesn't want it to cannabalize the Swift's sales?

cvvikram · 16th May 2009, 00:47

Interior finish and backside looks really ugly. Really don't know if it is going to capture the market of Swift or not.

Whiz · 16th May 2009, 01:23

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Originally Posted by skumar

The dealers are giving 20k discuounts on Swift Petrol in Bangalore (includes Corporate discount) and with this the Swift 1.3 is cheaper compare to Ritz 1.2.

Currently as I have enquired, there are no dealer discounts on Swift Petrol and very minimal Corporate discounts, thats close to 3K.

Minardi · 16th May 2009, 01:28

i don't understand MUL's logic of launching yet another hatch that is so similar to Swift in looks and price points. Is it just to confuse the buyer with many choices because of impending launch of GP and Jazz? A bit like TOI started another daily (MM) in Mumbai when HT and DNA were getting launched?!

hell_rider · 16th May 2009, 02:11

i found the following on the ritz website. on the flash thingie of the interior when you click on the hotspot. the following blurb pops up :

the ritz relatively offers a High Roof Line, which allows plenty of cabin height and high seat positions, thereby giving you more leg space and roomy, comfortable interior environment with good visibility for safer driving.

is it just my interpretation of the above that is wrong or is that just a load of guano ??

because i don't see how "a high roof line which allows plenty of cabin height gives me more leg space", unless of course, i intend to hang upside down like a bat.

p.s.
which would be kind of neat, because there would be no need for seats. just hooks on the roof to hang from. and think of all the space liberated by dispensing with the seats. driving it would be difficult though.

i think i need to get some sleep.

arunpn · 16th May 2009, 07:56

Suzuki has just copied i10 and put it on Swift. Ritz should be called "Swift i10"

Gagan.js · 16th May 2009, 10:39

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the ritz relatively offers a High Roof Line, which allows plenty of cabin height and high seat positions, thereby giving you more leg space and roomy, comfortable interior environment with good visibility for safer driving.

Thats a load of crap. If this is done just because of swift, then there is no problem of headroom in the swift.

As for visibility, like swift there are blind spots(I drive one every day), I sat in the ritz and it has the similar blind spots, so visibility isn't great, just marketing bs

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Suzuki has just copied i10 and put it on Swift. Ritz should be called "Swift i10"

Notice how the gear knob is in the same place as i10.

reppy · 16th May 2009, 10:44

I think what they're trying to say is that the design is a tall-boy design, and so the seating posture requires lower amount of knee/leg-space (like Santro). This has also been stated by ACI.

15th May 2009, 19:21	#46
penpavan BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Blore Posts: 452 Thanked: 234 Times	Petrol version a bit overpriced. Anyone?
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15th May 2009, 20:27	#48
nickatnite Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NYC/MAA Posts: 1,430 Thanked: 604 Times	Is this car UGLY, or what else can i say?.I didn't get a chance to check out the K12 engine. Both displays i saw were diesels. Attached Thumbnails
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15th May 2009, 20:43	#49
manish7 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 508 Thanked: 0 Times	I had a look at it in flesh! Sai service had dark blue ZXI on display, I didn't like the looks much. Swift looks better and not having ZDI is definitely deal breaker for me. Waiting for GP now.
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15th May 2009, 21:19	#51
harry10 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Faridabad/Delhi Posts: 2,742 Thanked: 4,083 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (5)	Front is swiftish, rear is tad ugly and i didn't liked the interiors either. For me Swift still rules in looks department in the Maruti stable and is a better choice anyday. A-star and now Ritz- any more UGLIES left? Last edited by harry10 : 15th May 2009 at 21:20.
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15th May 2009, 22:30	#52
Gagan.js BHPian Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Mumbai Posts: 227 Thanked: Once	Swift still wins at that price.
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15th May 2009, 23:48	#53
SAS BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 296 Thanked: 83 Times View My Garage	Would definitely agree about it being overpriced by around $15-20k...maybe MSIL doesn't want it to cannabalize the Swift's sales?
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16th May 2009, 00:47	#54
cvvikram BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: India Posts: 144 Thanked: Once	Interior finish and backside looks really ugly. Really don't know if it is going to capture the market of Swift or not.
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16th May 2009, 01:28	#56
Minardi BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 413 Thanked: 15 Times	i don't understand MUL's logic of launching yet another hatch that is so similar to Swift in looks and price points. Is it just to confuse the buyer with many choices because of impending launch of GP and Jazz? A bit like TOI started another daily (MM) in Mumbai when HT and DNA were getting launched?!
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16th May 2009, 02:11	#57
hell_rider BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 538 Thanked: 61 Times	i found the following on the ritz website. on the flash thingie of the interior when you click on the hotspot. the following blurb pops up : the ritz relatively offers a High Roof Line, which allows plenty of cabin height and high seat positions, thereby giving you more leg space and roomy, comfortable interior environment with good visibility for safer driving. is it just my interpretation of the above that is wrong or is that just a load of guano ?? because i don't see how "a high roof line which allows plenty of cabin height gives me more leg space", unless of course, i intend to hang upside down like a bat. p.s. which would be kind of neat, because there would be no need for seats. just hooks on the roof to hang from. and think of all the space liberated by dispensing with the seats. driving it would be difficult though. i think i need to get some sleep. Last edited by hell_rider : 16th May 2009 at 02:20.
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16th May 2009, 07:56	#58
arunpn BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Nagercoil Posts: 65 Thanked: Once	Suzuki has just copied i10 and put it on Swift. Ritz should be called "Swift i10"
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16th May 2009, 10:44	#60
reppy BANNED Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 540 Thanked: 643 Times Infractions: 0/1 (99)	I think what they're trying to say is that the design is a tall-boy design, and so the seating posture requires lower amount of knee/leg-space (like Santro). This has also been stated by ACI.
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