Legality of multiple licenses

meerkat · 6th January 2009, 21:34

Hello friends,

I was told by an agent that it is illegal to have two separate licenses,
even if it is for two different categories. I was surprised to hear that.
Somebody else told me that it is not illegal if vehicle categories
are different. I happen to have a 2-wheeler license and a separate
lmv license (made a few years later) from two different RTOs. Didn't know
(or care) at the time that both classes could be included in a single
license. Should I expect problems for this during renewal? Should I try
to renew them separately or try to combine them on a single license?
Would like to have your inputs. Thanks in advance.

P.S. Moderators: please move the thread to the correct
section, if it is not there already. Thanks.

GTO · 7th January 2009, 11:29

My guess, and logic says, that one licence with multiple categories is the way to go. Cross-check with your RTO and combine the two before it's too late. The Mumbai RTO has cracked down very hard on multiple licences.

deepaktpatil · 7th January 2009, 11:43

Yes its illegal to have more than one license at any point of time anywhere in India. If you need license for additional category you need to get the new category added to your old one.

If you have license for a category from one state and move to other state and need to add a new category to your license then you need to transfer the old license to the new state and add the new category.

This case is especially true for lot of people who have migrated for jobs. While studying one obtains a motorcycle license and then moves to some other state for job and needs car license.

lambuhere1 · 7th January 2009, 11:43

Will second GTO on the same. In BLR, we need to get the same appended in your existing license

HappyWheels · 7th January 2009, 11:47

Yes, it is right. One should not have multiple licenses, even if it was for multiple categories. All new category are to be updated into the existing license.

But I am not sure how one can handle this if one gets two different categories from two different states - who is the one to consolidate?

Previously when we have the book, the new categories were added to it with an official stamp on a new page (more like how it is done on visa stamping in our passports). But now, with the laminated cards, no idea! :(

Su-47 · 7th January 2009, 11:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by deepaktpatil

If you have license for a category from one state and move to other state and need to add a new category to your license then you need to transfer the old license to the new state and add the new category.

Is transfer really a possibility? I mean, is it really a transfer or would I have to cancel the old one and re-apply?

Cheers,
Su-47

Limpid · 7th January 2009, 12:12

I have a license for two wheeler and LMV (NT) issued from Maharashtra, when I was a student. Now I live and work in Bangalore. The booklet was issued in 1997 and is in tatters. I have to be very careful using it.

I wish to get a new copy of the license but can't travel back to the place it was issued due to work and other constraints. What options do I have to get a new license or a new booklet?

1. Apply for a fresh license in Bangalore? But it's illegal! (How would Bangalore RTO know if I already have a license since they maintain database only for Karnataka.)

2. Transfer my old license back Bangalore's RTO? What is the procedure for that? Do I need to get any documents from RTO Maharashtra?

3. Travel back to place it was issued and get a new copy / smart card?

deepaktpatil · 7th January 2009, 12:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Su-47

Is transfer really a possibility? I mean, is it really a transfer or would I have to cancel the old one and re-apply?

Cheers,
Su-47

I agree with you, in practicality transferring is more tedious so cancellation is advisable. You can see below website for Karnataka RTO.

Organisation Chart
Organisation Chart

safari_lover · 7th January 2009, 13:55

I got my License transferred from one RTO to another, without much of a hassle. I had to get an NOC for the transfer, from the 1st RTO, and submit it at the second along with the License. This was in the same state i.e. Karnataka. I expect it to be same even for the case involving two different states.

m_upreti · 7th January 2009, 14:14

Any particular reason for getting the transfer done.

The DL are valid all over the country not withstanding the state of issue

Quote:

Originally Posted by safari_lover

I got my License transferred from one RTO to another, without much of a hassle. I had to get an NOC for the transfer, from the 1st RTO, and submit it at the second along with the License. This was in the same state i.e. Karnataka. I expect it to be same even for the case involving two different states.

BaCkSeAtDrIVeR · 7th January 2009, 21:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Limpid

I wish to get a new copy of the license but can't travel back to the place it was issued due to work and other constraints. What options do I have to get a new license or a new booklet?

None. You should go back to place where you got the license.

Quote:

1. Apply for a fresh license in Bangalore? But it's illegal! (How would Bangalore RTO know if I already have a license since they maintain database only for Karnataka.)

How does the police know who committed the murder which took place in darkness of midnight at a lonely place?

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2. Transfer my old license back Bangalore's RTO? What is the procedure for that? Do I need to get any documents from RTO Maharashtra?

You need to enter a request for address change.

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3. Travel back to place it was issued and get a new copy / smart card?

Certainly possible.

meerkat · 7th January 2009, 23:10

Thanks a lot guys, for your response. I do see the need to
consolidate my two licenses into one, during renewal (due now).
Just don't know how the RTOs (2) will respond to it. The problem
is, I moved from Bangalore to WB, and the local RTO is asking
for NOC from Bangalore, and suggested that I get it renewed in
Bangalore itself, since I don't have much time. An agent at
another RTO told me outright that that particular RTO is not even
doing a renewal of an out-of-state license (although the mv act
says a license is renewable anywhere in India, and nowhere is
the requirement of an NOC mentioned)!

Safari lover, how long did it take you to get an NOC from one
RTO and transfer it to another (albeit in the same state) ?

I'm planning to get my licenses renewed in Bangalore soon,
since I'm making a trip there anyway. Just don't know whether
I can consolidate two licenses (from two RTOs) into one within a
few days. Could an agent help? Could any of you Bangaloreans
suggest a reliable agent serving KA-03/04 ? Thanks.

pragya · 17th May 2010, 07:49

Hi all,
I need urgent help in renewal of my license.
I own a license from Himachal Pradesh and Currently staying in Maharashtra pune.
I want to get my license Renewed but the RTO is asking for some NOC.
I tried searching for some forms etc but not able to find any related to NOC of Driving license.
Can anyone let me know which is the form or where can i get it.
Do i need NOC form of Himachal Pradesh or Maharashtra.
Is there another easier way to get renewal, should i apply for learner license and then go for permanent license.

aaravb · 17th May 2010, 15:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by pragya

Hi all,
I need urgent help in renewal of my license.
I own a license from Himachal Pradesh and Currently staying in Maharashtra pune.
I want to get my license Renewed but the RTO is asking for some NOC.
I tried searching for some forms etc but not able to find any related to NOC of Driving license.
Can anyone let me know which is the form or where can i get it.
Do i need NOC form of Himachal Pradesh or Maharashtra.
Is there another easier way to get renewal, should i apply for learner license and then go for permanent license.

Hello Pragya,
I have gone through exactly the same sort off situation about 1 year back.

What RTO Pune is asking for is NOC from the RTO where the driving license you hold has been issued. So in your case you need NOC from the RTO in Himachal Pradesh.

However that's easier said then done, in my case I was told that in order to get the NOC from the RTO I will have to personally be present to request for the same. It was not possible for me to do, so I instead chose to get a fresh license issued by the new RTO in my place of residence.

Second getting a new license issued , even if you already hold a driving license for the past 10 years (issued by another state) is not a cake walk. You have to start from scratch and get a Learner's License issued in the first place, and then wait for the required period.

I don't think there is any other short cut which you can take in this situation.

Hope this helps!

S_U_N · 13th July 2010, 14:34

There may be a more appropriate thread, but I have not been able to find.
I am interested in knowing how to change the name on DL after marriage. DL issued in State1 and person is now married and moved to State2. Both name and address need to be updated.

Where do we start?

6th January 2009, 21:34	#1
meerkat BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: World Posts: 123 Thanked: 260 Times	Legality of multiple licenses Hello friends, I was told by an agent that it is illegal to have two separate licenses, even if it is for two different categories. I was surprised to hear that. Somebody else told me that it is not illegal if vehicle categories are different. I happen to have a 2-wheeler license and a separate lmv license (made a few years later) from two different RTOs. Didn't know (or care) at the time that both classes could be included in a single license. Should I expect problems for this during renewal? Should I try to renew them separately or try to combine them on a single license? Would like to have your inputs. Thanks in advance. P.S. Moderators: please move the thread to the correct section, if it is not there already. Thanks.
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7th January 2009, 11:29	#2
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 71,814 Thanked: 321,231 Times View My Garage	My guess, and logic says, that one licence with multiple categories is the way to go. Cross-check with your RTO and combine the two before it's too late. The Mumbai RTO has cracked down very hard on multiple licences.
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7th January 2009, 11:43	#3
deepaktpatil BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: KA 05, MH 10 Posts: 303 Thanked: 128 Times	Yes its illegal to have more than one license at any point of time anywhere in India. If you need license for additional category you need to get the new category added to your old one. If you have license for a category from one state and move to other state and need to add a new category to your license then you need to transfer the old license to the new state and add the new category. This case is especially true for lot of people who have migrated for jobs. While studying one obtains a motorcycle license and then moves to some other state for job and needs car license.
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7th January 2009, 11:43	#4
lambuhere1 BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: @ Driver's Seat @ Posts: 730 Thanked: 108 Times	Will second GTO on the same. In BLR, we need to get the same appended in your existing license
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7th January 2009, 11:47	#5
HappyWheels Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 4,145 Thanked: 571 Times	Yes, it is right. One should not have multiple licenses, even if it was for multiple categories. All new category are to be updated into the existing license. But I am not sure how one can handle this if one gets two different categories from two different states - who is the one to consolidate? Previously when we have the book, the new categories were added to it with an official stamp on a new page (more like how it is done on visa stamping in our passports). But now, with the laminated cards, no idea! :(
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7th January 2009, 12:12	#7
Limpid BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 84 Thanked: 11 Times	I have a license for two wheeler and LMV (NT) issued from Maharashtra, when I was a student. Now I live and work in Bangalore. The booklet was issued in 1997 and is in tatters. I have to be very careful using it. I wish to get a new copy of the license but can't travel back to the place it was issued due to work and other constraints. What options do I have to get a new license or a new booklet? 1. Apply for a fresh license in Bangalore? But it's illegal! (How would Bangalore RTO know if I already have a license since they maintain database only for Karnataka.) 2. Transfer my old license back Bangalore's RTO? What is the procedure for that? Do I need to get any documents from RTO Maharashtra? 3. Travel back to place it was issued and get a new copy / smart card?
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7th January 2009, 13:55	#9
safari_lover Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bengaluru / Bagdal Posts: 1,155 Thanked: 785 Times	I got my License transferred from one RTO to another, without much of a hassle. I had to get an NOC for the transfer, from the 1st RTO, and submit it at the second along with the License. This was in the same state i.e. Karnataka. I expect it to be same even for the case involving two different states.
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7th January 2009, 23:10	#12
meerkat BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: World Posts: 123 Thanked: 260 Times	Thanks a lot guys, for your response. I do see the need to consolidate my two licenses into one, during renewal (due now). Just don't know how the RTOs (2) will respond to it. The problem is, I moved from Bangalore to WB, and the local RTO is asking for NOC from Bangalore, and suggested that I get it renewed in Bangalore itself, since I don't have much time. An agent at another RTO told me outright that that particular RTO is not even doing a renewal of an out-of-state license (although the mv act says a license is renewable anywhere in India, and nowhere is the requirement of an NOC mentioned)! Safari lover, how long did it take you to get an NOC from one RTO and transfer it to another (albeit in the same state) ? I'm planning to get my licenses renewed in Bangalore soon, since I'm making a trip there anyway. Just don't know whether I can consolidate two licenses (from two RTOs) into one within a few days. Could an agent help? Could any of you Bangaloreans suggest a reliable agent serving KA-03/04 ? Thanks.
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17th May 2010, 07:49	#13
pragya BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: pune Posts: 39 Thanked: 3 Times View My Garage	Hi all, I need urgent help in renewal of my license. I own a license from Himachal Pradesh and Currently staying in Maharashtra pune. I want to get my license Renewed but the RTO is asking for some NOC. I tried searching for some forms etc but not able to find any related to NOC of Driving license. Can anyone let me know which is the form or where can i get it. Do i need NOC form of Himachal Pradesh or Maharashtra. Is there another easier way to get renewal, should i apply for learner license and then go for permanent license.
	() Thanks

13th July 2010, 14:34	#15
S_U_N Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Oslo Posts: 1,816 Thanked: 418 Times	There may be a more appropriate thread, but I have not been able to find. I am interested in knowing how to change the name on DL after marriage. DL issued in State1 and person is now married and moved to State2. Both name and address need to be updated. Where do we start?
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