Karnataka Road Tax, Crack down announced.EDIT: High Court Judgement on Pg 36 attached

clevermax · 17th August 2009, 13:50

Basic question:
What if I drive my KL registered car to Bangalore for a stay of one week? Will they still take my car or my RC book and ask me to pay that hefty amount?

What to do under such circumstances, where you are in Bangalore with your non KA car for a short duration?

joecherian · 17th August 2009, 13:50

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Originally Posted by manishk123

Pls see my earlier post with the attached judgement which says that the Governement cannot even levy road tax on an out of state car if it has been there for less than a year.

The judgement date, if am not wrong , is July 15, 2005. How come this didn't come to the attention of us BHPIans for such a long period ?

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Originally Posted by clevermax

Basic question:
What if I drive my KL registered car to Bangalore for a stay of one week? Will they still take my car or my RC book and ask me to pay that hefty amount?

What to do under such circumstances, where you are in Bangalore with your non KA car for a short duration?

That is where you have some stuff called toll reciepts, petrol bills, pollution check certificates that can help you prove that you just hoped in to KA.Any plans to visit Bangy ? Do drop a line...

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LastActionHero · 17th August 2009, 14:54

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Originally Posted by manishk123

Hi. Here is a judgement that everyone with this problem will find very useful. It states that a person is allowed to use an out of state car in another state without paying the road tax for that state, provided the car has not been there for over a year. I suggest you to keep a copy of this in your car and flash it to the cops next time you get caught.

Incidentally it is against the state of Karnataka. A relative of mine was caught for using a Goa registered car in Hubli, Karnataka. Instead of coughing up the tax and fine like all of us he took the Karnataka RTO to court and won!! I hope everyone finds this useful.

Cheers!

This is interesting. Can you please give us more details? Which court was this? When was this judgment delivered? I could not get this information from the attached doc. Also is this judgment under appeal in a higher court?

clevermax · 17th August 2009, 15:15

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Originally Posted by joecherian

That is where you have some stuff called toll reciepts, petrol bills, pollution check certificates that can help you prove that you just hoped in to KA.Any plans to visit Bangy ? Do drop a line...

Hmm... I hope these things will work with the KA RTO guys. BTW, how are you surviving in Blr with your KL-5 ? Already paid the road tax? Ever been caught?

joecherian · 17th August 2009, 15:20

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Originally Posted by clevermax

Hmm... I hope these things will work with the KA RTO guys. BTW, how are you surviving in Blr with your KL-5 ? Already paid the road tax? Ever been caught?

Hmm.. touch wood.. haven't yet come in front of those RTO chaps. But, even if yes, I do have some ammunition with me (PUC check, petrol bills without dates and which I can put on a recent date) and most important, since my vehicle was used by my DRDO friend for some time (2 weeks), he has stuck a DRDO sticker on the front and this has helped me at local traffic cop checks.

manishk123 · 18th August 2009, 13:14

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Originally Posted by LastActionHero

This is interesting. Can you please give us more details? Which court was this? When was this judgment delivered? I could not get this information from the attached doc. Also is this judgment under appeal in a higher court?

[FONT=&quot]Its from - "NOTE OF CASES" and bearing reference no. AIR 2005 NOC (KANT) 537 KANT H.C.R. 2140 ...MAHESH C GANDHI v/s DEPUTY COMMISIONER FOR TRANSPORTS,BELGAUM.... WRIT PETITION NO 39752 of 2004 dated 15-7-2005[/FONT]

Its a Writ so I assume it was in High Court and the department did'nt go for an appeal.

wildon · 18th August 2009, 16:04

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Originally Posted by manishk123

Its a Writ so I assume it was in High Court and the department did'nt go for an appeal.

Done some googling and found this on continuation of the above story
http://164.100.80.145:8080/dspace/bi...19-06-2006.pdf

joecherian · 18th August 2009, 21:00

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Originally Posted by wildon

Done some googling and found this on continuation of the above story
http://164.100.80.145:8080/dspace/bi...19-06-2006.pdf

Does this mean the High Court has upheld the ruling to prevent road tax payment for all vehicles less than 12 months in KA ?

LastActionHero · 18th August 2009, 21:54

It definitely seems so. This is a welcome judgement for people who bring their cars from another state. Wonder why this was never known/publicized.

joecherian · 19th August 2009, 09:46

A more detailed info on the above judgement can be found in this link
Mahesh C. Gandhi vs The Deputy Commissioner For ... on 15 July, 2005

manishk123 · 20th August 2009, 15:02

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Originally Posted by LastActionHero

It definitely seems so. This is a welcome judgement for people who bring their cars from another state. Wonder why this was never known/publicized.

Its a relative of mine who fought and won the case. He's been sharing the information with whoever he knows. However, did'nt have a medium like this forum to share it with everyone on a mass scale, so I have now put it up for everyone's benefit.

LastActionHero · 20th August 2009, 15:22

Thanks for the info. What I meant was that it should have been highlighted by the media like the entry tax case as this benefits many people. I guess I'm expecting too much from the media.

n.devdath · 20th August 2009, 17:53

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Originally Posted by manishk123

Its a relative of mine who fought and won the case. He's been sharing the information with whoever he knows. However, did'nt have a medium like this forum to share it with everyone on a mass scale, so I have now put it up for everyone's benefit.

Ok, well, I may sound dumb, but does this mean that I can buy a vehicle anywhere in India and drive/use it in Karnataka without paying the horrendous, exorbitant and completely unjustifiable DEMON called "Road Tax".

joecherian · 31st August 2009, 15:10

Well, even though the court might have ruled it this way, the actual scenario on the road might be different. I am not sure how you can convince the RTO or the local traffic cop who stops you for having an other state plate. Even if you show them the judgement copy, I am sure they will have 1000 reasons not to heed to what you are showing/telling.

Has anyone made use of this judgement to free themselves from the corrupt hands of these officials ?

manishk123 · 1st September 2009, 14:42

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Originally Posted by joecherian

Well, even though the court might have ruled it this way, the actual scenario on the road might be different. I am not sure how you can convince the RTO or the local traffic cop who stops you for having an other state plate. Even if you show them the judgement copy, I am sure they will have 1000 reasons not to heed to what you are showing/telling.

Has anyone made use of this judgement to free themselves from the corrupt hands of these officials ?

I use an MP registered Innova in Mumbai as I have an office in Indore, MP. I was stopped once by the RTO when there was random checking of outstation vehicles in Mumbai. I showed the inspector the judgement and to his credit he read the entire thing. However, he began telling me it does not say anything about Maharashtra. At this point i got a bit agitated and warned him that he would be in contempt of court if he did not let me go. He immediately backed off and told me i could go.

So i guess it all depends on how convincing you are while talking to the cops.

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clevermax Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tvm/Amsterdam Posts: 2,095 Thanked: 2,728 Times View My Garage	Basic question: What if I drive my KL registered car to Bangalore for a stay of one week? Will they still take my car or my RC book and ask me to pay that hefty amount? What to do under such circumstances, where you are in Bangalore with your non KA car for a short duration?
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LastActionHero BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Delhi Posts: 184 Thanked: 22 Times	It definitely seems so. This is a welcome judgement for people who bring their cars from another state. Wonder why this was never known/publicized.
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joecherian BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Almhult,Sweden Posts: 552 Thanked: 80 Times View My Garage	A more detailed info on the above judgement can be found in this link Mahesh C. Gandhi vs The Deputy Commissioner For ... on 15 July, 2005
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LastActionHero BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Delhi Posts: 184 Thanked: 22 Times	Thanks for the info. What I meant was that it should have been highlighted by the media like the entry tax case as this benefits many people. I guess I'm expecting too much from the media.
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joecherian BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Almhult,Sweden Posts: 552 Thanked: 80 Times View My Garage	Well, even though the court might have ruled it this way, the actual scenario on the road might be different. I am not sure how you can convince the RTO or the local traffic cop who stops you for having an other state plate. Even if you show them the judgement copy, I am sure they will have 1000 reasons not to heed to what you are showing/telling. Has anyone made use of this judgement to free themselves from the corrupt hands of these officials ?
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