new honda city vtec!!!

veyron1 · 30th March 2005, 21:29

hey guys, check this out- the guys at honda are racking their brains again. the new honda city with the i-dsi (intelligent dual and sequential ignition) didn't do as well as expected, and haven't been garnering as much sales, what with the oddball too-radical looks; and while we're on that, why isn't there a temperature gauge??? i mean, even a honda badge doesn't mean that the engine will always operate at the optimum temp. , does it? or is it that they didn't deem it necessary?

all that's set to change, with the new honda city vtec hitting the showrooms late this year. a call to the showroom revealed that honda doesn't want us to speculate, and is keeping the details about the launch mum.

nevertheless, a sneek peek has been given to us by our beloved auto mags, and initial impressions indicate that the new vtec will sport all features missing in the current version (like the temp. gauge

). specs include rear disc brakes (you read it right!!), a first in the sub 10 lac category;also, honda quotes power figures of 108 bhp, accln. of 0-100 in about 10 sec., and top end whack in excess of 190 kmph.
which means it'll outperform the old vtec on all counts- acceleration, top speed, braking, driveability and comfort.
so, here's looking forward to the great things to come. (b.t.w, this particular thing will hit the roads by august-sep, most probably- this is top secret info, and i could be killed for revealing this; but hey, anything for my fellow bhpians

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Shan2nu · 30th March 2005, 21:36

I ain't expecting much from the new Vtec but, i really hope it proves me wrong and performs far better than expected, which i doubt will happen.

I guess only time will tell.

BTW, the 108 bhp is in other asian countries, that car maynot produce more than 102 bhp in India, probably even less. The old Vtec in those countries, produces 115-120bhp.

Can't wait for it to come though. It'll be interesting to run it against the old Vtec.

Shan2nu

X-Machine · 30th March 2005, 21:41

Yeah,read about in in yesterdays Times.They are claiming the car to have 108 horses under its belt.They will be no changes in the exterior or interior styling,except for a few things like the ABS etc.So this happens to be more powerful than the Old Vtec.Lets see if it can carry forward the Vtec line sucessfully.

X

Harrie · 30th March 2005, 21:46

He he if the NHC VTEC were to be really good, I for one would buy one and take out the VTEC badging. Make it look like a regular NHC. Boy oh boy what fun i could have fooling people to think its a regular city and then smoking them at leisure!!!

Well thatz too much to expect. Only a road test can tell. I still dont like the looks of the NHC whether it has got VTEC or not :(

always_dui · 30th March 2005, 21:59

I second harrie on that
the old look new engine would be a kill
but then veyron dont you have news on how it would look dude
im surely interested in that

keep it posted

cheers

Harrie · 30th March 2005, 22:09

Maybe a change of heart for the old VTEC if possible? that is if the new engine is really rocking and its possible to lay hands on a totalled NHC VTEC.

Should be interesting. But lets wait and watch. Hey any idea about how it would be priced?

I dont think much could be done to actually make the NHC look better. Just a observation - the NHC in dark metallic colors or white looks better than the ones with a light shades. Any one observed the same?

Luv the way the rear seats fold up. that is really a thoughtful option... hope they bring it to india.

Shan2nu · 30th March 2005, 22:09

It would look like this.

For more pics and reviews, click here!!

They've given it the old Vtec rear spoiler which is a real spoiler in this case. Spoiling it's looks (even furthur).

Shan2nu

karthik247 · 30th March 2005, 22:46

the VTEC is back again!!! can't wait to get the review of this one

veyron1 · 30th March 2005, 22:47

hi dudes,
the pricing for the new vtec will be somewhere in the region of 8.0-8.5 lac rs (ex-showroom), which means that it will undercut the old vtec's price by a significant margin!!
i agree with shan2nu on the looks; it still looks like a pigeon's face, rammed into a ford f140's windshield. and oh yes, the spoiler does spoil the party, but we'll also get integrated auxilliary spot lamps/fog lamps with the new vtec!
and yes, the vtec will be slightly detuned for India, but i doubt that the power will go below 104-105 bhp, what with the new euro compliant fuels being manadatory and all....
and yeah, the old shape would have been great, but the new one cossets you at speeds that the old would have us squirming in, so, i guess you win some, you lose some...
and besides, the new is more comfy...
also, the new vtec will be safer, and more roomy than the old vtec, with just about the same aerodynamics- (the coefficient of drag is speculated to be the same or even lesser than the old)

Samurai · 30th March 2005, 22:53

My wife just commented that it looks like frog...

Shan2nu · 31st March 2005, 01:07

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My wife just commented that it looks like frog...

Comming from an Acura TL, this must look real funny. LOL

But yeah, it's a better overall car than the OHC. If not for the performance, you should buy it for everything else. I think the new Vtec will be good competition for the Baleno and the Old City 1.5.

I wont be surprised if it manages a top speed of over 190kmph, with a drag coefficient of .29 this will cut through air like an arrow.

77bhp - 170kmph
108bhp - you do the math!!!

Shan2nu

gamerno1 · 31st March 2005, 01:15

yes, the article came 30th march times of india as X mentioned. 108 bhp/ABS confirmed. only if the shape could go better

also, i like harrie's idea of removing the v-tec badge & fooling others it being a 77bhp & later smoking out the rest of the competition

Harrie · 31st March 2005, 01:21

hey gamer just cant stop that grin on your face right? me too staring at the NHCand wondering how come the honda boffins thought this example would replace the dear old city.

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But yeah, it's a better overall car than the OHC. If not for the performance, you should buy it for everything else. I think the new Vtec will be good competition for the Baleno and the Old City 1.5.

hey shan defending the OHC Vtec as usual?

Cool dude.

Hey gamer the rio design NHC looks better than the stock ones. Maybe an investment in their body kit seems to be the only option left now.

Shan2nu · 31st March 2005, 01:32

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hey shan defending the OHC Vtec as usual? Cool dude.

There's nothing to defend. I too want the new Vtec to be better, it's just that this body shell isn't doin justice to the Vtec tag. LOL

All these days, the word Vtec brought just one image to my mind. A Sleek, light, powerful and proportionate looking car.

But now, all i can see is frogs, pigeons and god knows what. Hahaha

Frankly, i'd have preffered the Civic instead of this.

Shan2nu

revtech · 31st March 2005, 01:35

they should definitly do something about the shapes.it becasue of the new shape that people are drawan away from it.its too tall and jus doesnt look like its in the correct proportion.( no offence intended to nhc owners)

30th March 2005, 21:29	#1
veyron1 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,424 Thanked: 53 Times View My Garage	new honda city vtec!!! hey guys, check this out- the guys at honda are racking their brains again. the new honda city with the i-dsi (intelligent dual and sequential ignition) didn't do as well as expected, and haven't been garnering as much sales, what with the oddball too-radical looks; and while we're on that, why isn't there a temperature gauge??? i mean, even a honda badge doesn't mean that the engine will always operate at the optimum temp. , does it? or is it that they didn't deem it necessary? all that's set to change, with the new honda city vtec hitting the showrooms late this year. a call to the showroom revealed that honda doesn't want us to speculate, and is keeping the details about the launch mum. nevertheless, a sneek peek has been given to us by our beloved auto mags, and initial impressions indicate that the new vtec will sport all features missing in the current version (like the temp. gauge ). specs include rear disc brakes (you read it right!!), a first in the sub 10 lac category;also, honda quotes power figures of 108 bhp, accln. of 0-100 in about 10 sec., and top end whack in excess of 190 kmph. which means it'll outperform the old vtec on all counts- acceleration, top speed, braking, driveability and comfort. so, here's looking forward to the great things to come. (b.t.w, this particular thing will hit the roads by august-sep, most probably- this is top secret info, and i could be killed for revealing this; but hey, anything for my fellow bhpians )
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30th March 2005, 21:36	#2
Shan2nu Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hubli - Karnata Posts: 5,533 Thanked: 125 Times View My Garage	I ain't expecting much from the new Vtec but, i really hope it proves me wrong and performs far better than expected, which i doubt will happen. I guess only time will tell. BTW, the 108 bhp is in other asian countries, that car maynot produce more than 102 bhp in India, probably even less. The old Vtec in those countries, produces 115-120bhp. Can't wait for it to come though. It'll be interesting to run it against the old Vtec. Shan2nu
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30th March 2005, 21:41	#3
X-Machine Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Mumbai/Tokyo Posts: 1,475 Thanked: 29 Times	Yeah,read about in in yesterdays Times.They are claiming the car to have 108 horses under its belt.They will be no changes in the exterior or interior styling,except for a few things like the ABS etc.So this happens to be more powerful than the Old Vtec.Lets see if it can carry forward the Vtec line sucessfully. X
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30th March 2005, 21:46	#4
Harrie BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: KA 03, KL 12, TN 38 Posts: 701 Thanked: 36 Times View My Garage	He he if the NHC VTEC were to be really good, I for one would buy one and take out the VTEC badging. Make it look like a regular NHC. Boy oh boy what fun i could have fooling people to think its a regular city and then smoking them at leisure!!! Well thatz too much to expect. Only a road test can tell. I still dont like the looks of the NHC whether it has got VTEC or not :(
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30th March 2005, 21:59	#5
always_dui BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: mumbai Posts: 61 Thanked: Once View My Garage	I second harrie on that the old look new engine would be a kill but then veyron dont you have news on how it would look dude im surely interested in that keep it posted cheers
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30th March 2005, 22:09	#6
Harrie BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: KA 03, KL 12, TN 38 Posts: 701 Thanked: 36 Times View My Garage	Maybe a change of heart for the old VTEC if possible? that is if the new engine is really rocking and its possible to lay hands on a totalled NHC VTEC. Should be interesting. But lets wait and watch. Hey any idea about how it would be priced? I dont think much could be done to actually make the NHC look better. Just a observation - the NHC in dark metallic colors or white looks better than the ones with a light shades. Any one observed the same? Luv the way the rear seats fold up. that is really a thoughtful option... hope they bring it to india. Last edited by Harrie : 30th March 2005 at 22:13.
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30th March 2005, 22:09	#7
Shan2nu Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hubli - Karnata Posts: 5,533 Thanked: 125 Times View My Garage	It would look like this. For more pics and reviews, click here!! They've given it the old Vtec rear spoiler which is a real spoiler in this case. Spoiling it's looks (even furthur). Shan2nu Last edited by Shan2nu : 30th March 2005 at 22:11.
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30th March 2005, 22:46	#8
karthik247 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR, HYD Posts: 2,710 Thanked: 30 Times	the VTEC is back again!!! can't wait to get the review of this one
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30th March 2005, 22:47	#9
veyron1 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,424 Thanked: 53 Times View My Garage	hi dudes, the pricing for the new vtec will be somewhere in the region of 8.0-8.5 lac rs (ex-showroom), which means that it will undercut the old vtec's price by a significant margin!! i agree with shan2nu on the looks; it still looks like a pigeon's face, rammed into a ford f140's windshield. and oh yes, the spoiler does spoil the party, but we'll also get integrated auxilliary spot lamps/fog lamps with the new vtec! and yes, the vtec will be slightly detuned for India, but i doubt that the power will go below 104-105 bhp, what with the new euro compliant fuels being manadatory and all.... and yeah, the old shape would have been great, but the new one cossets you at speeds that the old would have us squirming in, so, i guess you win some, you lose some... and besides, the new is more comfy... also, the new vtec will be safer, and more roomy than the old vtec, with just about the same aerodynamics- (the coefficient of drag is speculated to be the same or even lesser than the old)
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30th March 2005, 22:53	#10
Samurai Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore/Udupi Posts: 25,918 Thanked: 46,692 Times View My Garage	My wife just commented that it looks like frog...
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31st March 2005, 01:15	#12
gamerno1 BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Andheri (w), Mumbai Posts: 408 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	yes, the article came 30th march times of india as X mentioned. 108 bhp/ABS confirmed. only if the shape could go better also, i like harrie's idea of removing the v-tec badge & fooling others it being a 77bhp & later smoking out the rest of the competition Last edited by gamerno1 : 31st March 2005 at 01:16.
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31st March 2005, 01:35	#15
revtech Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 1,992 Thanked: 39 Times View My Garage	they should definitly do something about the shapes.it becasue of the new shape that people are drawan away from it.its too tall and jus doesnt look like its in the correct proportion.( no offence intended to nhc owners)
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