Civic Sports launched

Ym-enjn · 12th August 2008, 17:30

It seems, problem is not with the product, it's with the name. What if it was called S2 or S-square, or something like that. Guys, if they are not giving anything out of the earth then they are also not charging you whole earth. It is priced lower then V. If the previous S model was excepted so well then why so much fuss about this. I am a big anti Civic person, but I always appriciate Hondas VFM stand. I totally agree that the SPORT lable is not justified for this model, but this model fulfills wishs of many people who wanted Civic at VFM.

shuvc · 12th August 2008, 17:39

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Originally Posted by Ym-enjn

It is priced lower then V.

Not in Kolkata at least. It's pricier than the V manual.

1.8V MT - 12.33
1.8 Sport - 12.5
1.8V AT - 13.03

Prices from Honda site.

Ym-enjn · 12th August 2008, 17:58

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Originally Posted by shuvc

Not in Kolkata at least. It's pricier than the V manual.

1.8V MT - 12.33
1.8 Sport - 12.5
1.8V AT - 13.03

Prices from Honda site.

Opps.. It is. I take my words back. Trusted dealer words blindly. Now I understand why Honda is getting so much bashing.

EDIT: Ok, the price on site is including the additional sport kit. See the ** on site. Without the kit it is lower then V. I don't know if the kit is optional. and which one makes more VFM.

sidd_city · 12th August 2008, 21:02

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Originally Posted by Ym-enjn

Opps.. It is. I take my words back. Trusted dealer words blindly. Now I understand why Honda is getting so much bashing.

EDIT: Ok, the price on site is including the additional sport kit. See the ** on site. Without the kit it is lower then V. I don't know if the kit is optional. and which one makes more VFM.

I would rather buy the 1.8v MT and get the kit on it. It will cost just 20-30k extra which I feel is VFM over the S considering that I am getting leather seats and other goodies which the S doesn't have.

Gregory · 12th August 2008, 23:09

I dont understand why you guys are making a big deal about this and bashing Honda and Ford saying that its nothing more than just a cosmetic ""Sports"" badge.

Yes it a cosmetic upgrade.

Dont forget Mitsubishi cedia also came with this same sports badge. It was nothing more than the normal cedia with a Spoiler, skirting and leather seats.

cheers:

theMAG · 12th August 2008, 23:19

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Originally Posted by akshay1234

probably with the left over stock of the civic s.

You are probably very right there.

Path_Finder · 12th August 2008, 23:27

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Originally Posted by Gregory

I dont understand why you guys are making a big deal about this and bashing Honda and Ford saying that its nothing more than just a cosmetic ""Sports"" badge.

Yes it a cosmetic upgrade.

Dont forget Mitsubishi cedia also came with this same sports badge. It was nothing more than the normal cedia with a Spoiler, skirting and leather seats.

It is very difficult for the Civic to identify itself with the sports tag - and that is what it is. It is not so with the Mitsubishi. BTW, Cedia sports has not just spoiler and skirting - it has different body with extended bumpers, door handles, grill, head lamps and tail lamps, antenna etc. on the exterior. And the interior is also different. Compared to this the Civic sport is an eyewash.

Akshay1234 · 12th August 2008, 23:36

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Originally Posted by Gregory

I dont understand why you guys are making a big deal about this and bashing Honda and Ford saying that its nothing more than just a cosmetic ""Sports"" badge.

Yes it a cosmetic upgrade.

Dont forget Mitsubishi cedia also came with this same sports badge. It was nothing more than the normal cedia with a Spoiler, skirting and leather seats.

cheers:

but it wasnt launched as a limited edition and the body kit on it actually showed. also the interiors were different and actually sporty.

theMAG · 12th August 2008, 23:45

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Originally Posted by Gregory

I dont understand why you guys are making a big deal about this and bashing Honda and Ford saying that its nothing more than just a cosmetic ""Sports"" badge.

Yes it a cosmetic upgrade.

Dont forget Mitsubishi cedia also came with this same sports badge. It was nothing more than the normal cedia with a Spoiler, skirting and leather seats.

cheers:

You're right. There never has been a true sports edition - with upgraded engine etc in India except the Octavia RS and Palio 1.6. Unless some manufacturer decides to trailblaze that concept regularly we never will.

Maruti would actually be the best positioned to do that - they have everything they need. A 1.6 M series from the SX4 into the Swift.

Ricky_63 · 14th August 2008, 12:10

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Originally Posted by extreme_torque

I hope not, 150 bhp from a turbo 1.8 isnt impressive at all especially when the NA Honda 1.8 in the Civic makes 135 bhp! Besides its too expensive for an Octavia.

Maybe so, but it still appeals to those who want/ed a SPORTY car with good build, decent performance, all bells & whistles.

Whereas Honda has offered nothing compared to the RS in terms of improved power over the stock car. The RS came as a FULLY loaded car, better alloys, sunroof, projector headlights etc etc., whereas the Civic has come with an excuse for a Sporty car.

They could have offered it with a Turbocharger. Better suspension / brakes, larger sized alloys. That is when they could have said "SPORT", atleast that would justify the badge !!

Cheers

evo · 14th August 2008, 12:51

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Originally Posted by extreme_torque

I hope not, 150 bhp from a turbo 1.8 isnt impressive at all especially when the NA Honda 1.8 in the Civic makes 135 bhp! Besides its too expensive for an Octavia.

IMHO, the 135 bhp civic can in no way be compared to the Octy VRS. The way the power comes is very different.

All this apart from the larger wheels and tyres,nice (though difficult to clean) leather combination seats etc etc.

kewlferrari · 14th August 2008, 13:35

Considering Civic has GC issues, why would anybody want an underbody kit. You are sure to scrape it everywhere you go, considerign there are no raods in most parts of the country after the rains.

Though must add - people will still buy it. It's a Honda!

Ym-enjn · 14th August 2008, 15:18

In anticipation of Altis and the new Honda City, their sales might have crashed or they already senced that and took out the city sport limited addition. They will certainly be successful in selling 1000 cars. I think after that we will see them offering real changes or a facelift of Civic. May be 6 to 10 months. By that time their new car (NNHC or whatever they call it) would be spinning their registers.

Ricky_63 · 14th August 2008, 21:39

IMHO, the 135 bhp civic can in no way be compared to the Octy VRS. The way the power comes is very different.

How VERY true !! This comparison is valid for those who have driven the 2 , not seen figures on paper alone !!!!

Cheerzzzzzz

Path_Finder · 14th August 2008, 21:46

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Originally Posted by kewlferrari

Considering Civic has GC issues, why would anybody want an underbody kit. You are sure to scrape it everywhere you go, considerign there are no raods in most parts of the country after the rains.

Though must add - people will still buy it. It's a Honda!

Fully agree - the underbody will scrape and the spolier is out of place on the civic. But people still buy Honda because it is Honda!!

12th August 2008, 17:30	#46
Ym-enjn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Jaipur Posts: 1,039 Thanked: 60 Times	It seems, problem is not with the product, it's with the name. What if it was called S2 or S-square, or something like that. Guys, if they are not giving anything out of the earth then they are also not charging you whole earth. It is priced lower then V. If the previous S model was excepted so well then why so much fuss about this. I am a big anti Civic person, but I always appriciate Hondas VFM stand. I totally agree that the SPORT lable is not justified for this model, but this model fulfills wishs of many people who wanted Civic at VFM.
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12th August 2008, 23:09	#50
Gregory BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 218 Thanked: 2 Times	I dont understand why you guys are making a big deal about this and bashing Honda and Ford saying that its nothing more than just a cosmetic ""Sports"" badge. Yes it a cosmetic upgrade. Dont forget Mitsubishi cedia also came with this same sports badge. It was nothing more than the normal cedia with a Spoiler, skirting and leather seats. cheers:
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14th August 2008, 13:35	#57
kewlferrari BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Delhi Posts: 176 Thanked: 24 Times	Considering Civic has GC issues, why would anybody want an underbody kit. You are sure to scrape it everywhere you go, considerign there are no raods in most parts of the country after the rains. Though must add - people will still buy it. It's a Honda!
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14th August 2008, 15:18	#58
Ym-enjn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Jaipur Posts: 1,039 Thanked: 60 Times	In anticipation of Altis and the new Honda City, their sales might have crashed or they already senced that and took out the city sport limited addition. They will certainly be successful in selling 1000 cars. I think after that we will see them offering real changes or a facelift of Civic. May be 6 to 10 months. By that time their new car (NNHC or whatever they call it) would be spinning their registers.
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14th August 2008, 21:39	#59
Ricky_63 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 3,885 Thanked: 519 Times View My Garage	IMHO, the 135 bhp civic can in no way be compared to the Octy VRS. The way the power comes is very different. How VERY true !! This comparison is valid for those who have driven the 2 , not seen figures on paper alone !!!! Cheerzzzzzz Last edited by Ricky_63 : 14th August 2008 at 21:40.
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