[Amby955]

Originally Posted by antonylejos

But for all who are like me, ( not moved permanently to Bangalore, but in Bangalore temporarily due to a project assignment) they will have the same issue, right?

How can the RTO force someone without an address in KA and staying at temporary accommodations like hotels or PGs during each visit to register a vehicle? It's just not possible to do under current MVD rules. You atleast need a registered rental agreement.

I faced the very same issue while moving to Chennai, tried my level best to buy the vehicle from TN, but could not do so as all my address proofs where from KL. Eventually had to buy a KL reg vehicle while spending little more in the total purchase cost of the vehicle, new vehicles in TN seems to be slightly cheaper.

I wouldn’t mind paying a temporary road tax for using an out-of-state vehicle in TN for an extended period. Since my stay here isn’t permanent, I’d have gladly paid road tax on a yearly basis for the duration of my stay. Unfortunately, no straightforward option exists for this. If this was an option provided by parivahan, I would be one of the first person to get this done.

[som9729]

Originally Posted by blackwasp

Now, he's back to Mumbai office, so he applied for a refund of the tax paid and he was refunded after about 5-6 months. This could also be a viable option now that refund can also be availed.

Hello
I too need to claim a KA Road tax refund, but am not in KA anymore
What's the procedure?
Can u elaborate?

[GeeTee TSI]

I am not for harassment by RTO officials but they seem to be after vehicle owners residing in KA (falling under the category beyond 11 months) yet on non KA plates. For genuine shuttlers between cities the documents will readily prove their case.

Lack of will to follow the rules is a different matter.

[hondatoyotafan]

How difficult is it to have a system where one can book a slot for vehicle inspection and once done, just log in to the portal and make the payment for road tax? All the information regarding the vehicle as well as the tax involved is in the system.

I was able to move between 3 US States seamlessly by registering with just an online request and an inspection at an authorised shop. Also the taxes paid were yearly and one could easily get the refund by showing registration in new state and mailing a copy to the old state.

[Aviator_guy]

Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR

Interestingly even BH vehicles are targeted!

Apparently BH vehicles having completed 2 years should have the subsequent tax payment done in Karnataka.

Oh God. Govt doesn't stop giving shocks regarding strange rules for BH

KA doesn't allow BH series for pvt employees and now they want owners to pay BH renewal tax in KA. Another brainchild of officials whose only job is to find ways to make life difficult for people

[ajmat]

The lifetime tax is the cause and a burden

Why?

• Too much variation in tax rates - this should be like GST - uniform
  
• When it comes to enforcing annual tax, most government authorities are lazy and incompetent. With modern connected technology, it is easy. Identify the defaulters and clamp/seize the cars

What could be done?

Pay for the use

• A facility to allow transient residents to pay tax over a 1-3 year. However one need to prove they are transient.
  
• Abolish lifetime tax and hike local tax on fuel. The more you use, the more you pay.
  
• Seamless refund of Life Time Tax if the car is transferred (I am dreaming too much!)
  
• Track entry of no KA cars using NHAI data and flag cars overstaying, frequently in Bangalore using ANPR technology.

[ashis89]

Originally Posted by Aviator_guy

Oh God. Govt doesn't stop giving shocks regarding strange rules for BH

KA doesn't allow BH series for pvt employees and now they want owners to pay BH renewal tax in KA. Another brainchild of officials whose only job is to find ways to make life difficult for people

There's nothing wrong in what the officials are asking. BH series was introduced to help people who have transferable jobs, so they can pay tax every 2 yrs at their then state/place of residence.

[sasta_rider]

Interesting & pathetic!

In the recent times, whatever rules and regulations are being passed at Karnataka, means they are finding all possible ways to loot money from us taxpayers, only to provide freebies for vote bank. I am speaking this irrespective of the political party involved: every party hits common man's stomach some or the other way. What matters is "who hits less"!

Being a border resident (a Kannadiga born and brought up in Kerala), having homes both at Kasaragod and Mangaluru, do I get any exemption from this 'corrupted' law?

In Mangaluru, traffic police hardly bats an eye on outside (KL) registered vehicles because they know its baseless to ask KL commuters at Mangaluru to pay road tax due to obvious border reason.

I work at Bengaluru while all the vehicles at my home are KL registered (due to less road tax). I keep crossing borders once in every month (to travel to hometown and back). As per the law, if a vehicle is in a different state for continuous 11 months, then road tax must be paid is what I recall from my weak memory. Can someone advise on how I can deny the police from fining me? If at all they fine me to fill their treasury, how much is the amount?

Feedbacks/advises much appreciated!

Regards,
Sud.

[dZired]

Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR

Interestingly even BH vehicles are targeted!

Apparently BH vehicles having completed 2 years should have the subsequent tax payment done in Karnataka.

But how to do that? There is no option to select the state while paying the 2 year tax installment.

[xotiq]

Make vehicle registration charges uniform across, this should help. And in addition- if we are going to be stationed out of state for say > 1 year, having a half yearly/yearly paid pass from that particular state could help. My neighbors/friends- majority of them are permanent residents for long time, yet have gone for BH registration.

Also, was not aware that people working in major MNC's are deputed to defence forces and Govt Dept's (vehicles have bold ARMY, NAVY stickers).

[Aviator_guy]

Originally Posted by ashis89

There's nothing wrong in what the officials are asking. BH series was introduced to help people who have transferable jobs, so they can pay tax every 2 yrs at their then state/place of residence.

Not as simple as it looks. KA does not not allow pvt employees to opt for BH. People have to get BH registration from other states which allows it (usually their home state). During renewal, there is no option to change state so even if someone wishes to pay tax to a KA RTO, it's not practical.

Instead of making people's life easier, KA transport authorities are trying to find ways to extract money

[hserus]

Originally Posted by blackwasp

The rules are very clear. The onus is on the RTO guys to prove that the vehicle has been in the state for over 11 months continuously.

Just fastag and challan data - which is centrally synced to the RTOs - is enough. Then there are for example parking stickers for local office and apartment buildings which let them home in on out of state cars.

More than people shifting to Bangalore, a number of DL cars that are close to the age limit there are being cheaply sold off and turning up all over India. Often re-registered with a dummy address provided by an agent in Delhi itself so that fresh road tax etc issues will not be a problem at the time of sale.

[Hayek]

Let’s be clear - if you genuinely live and work in some other state and are merely visiting Bangalore (which I have done), you are not going to face an issue with these drives. The reality is that the vast majority of those who crib about these drives are those who want to use a “home state” registration to EVADE the higher taxes in states like KA or MH. Stating that you can make one trip outside KA and use toll receipts from that to claim you don’t reside there is beyond ridiculous and reflects a shocking lack of integrity. If you live and work in a state, pay the taxes there. Else take a job somewhere else.

[shankar.balan]

Originally Posted by hserus

More than people shifting to Bangalore, a number of DL cars that are close to the age limit there are being cheaply sold off and turning up all over India. Often re-registered with a dummy address provided by an agent in Delhi itself so that fresh road tax etc issues will not be a problem at the time of sale.

I am also noticing that the population of DL and HR registered cars seems to have undergone a kind of ‘explosion’ of sorts all over South India especially in these last 3 years.

[hserus]

Originally Posted by Hayek

Let’s be clear - if you genuinely live and work in some other state and are merely visiting Bangalore (which I have done), you are not going to face an issue with these drives. The reality is that the vast majority of those who crib about these drives are those who want to use a “home state” registration to EVADE the higher taxes in states like KA or MH.

This is 100% correct. And right now thanks to all sorts of disparate systems being brought online and networked together, RTOs and traffic cops have 360 degree visibility into all the usual skulduggery that takes place.

So if the expectation is that you don't re-register your car in KA / MH just because you expect to be there for two or three years maximum before moving somewhere else, or you want to buy a cheap old car from Delhi and continue to run it on the DL registration without spending 41% of the car's invoice value on road tax for a ten year old car, this will be detected ASAP.

I have been travelling between Chennai and Bangalore at least once a month in TN cars and with Chennai address proofs for the past ten years thanks to my job. Nobody has chased me for taxes. And back in 2014, I re-registered a TN car (now sold) in KA, and claimed my TN tax back, it took months then - the refund process is far more straight forward now, I believe. Re registering the car has always always quick, the RTO is quite happy to take your money and will make sure you can pay them lakhs of rupees in road tax without any major inconvenience.