[CentreOfGravity]

Originally Posted by Auto_guy_101

I haven't checked out the power and torque figures yet. But from what I understood, Suzuki wants to sell this as a 500 km range car right? And if that's their plan, the only other competition in the market is the BE6 79 kWh.

True, Maruti claim that the e-Vitara will do about 500 km on a full charge. Although it's not clear whether that is the claimed range by a testing agency or it's a figure released by Maruti. The BE 6 with the 79 kWh battery has 682 km of claimed range and it should easily do 500-550 kms in the real world (59 kWh variant has 557 km of claimed range). By the way, the e-Vitara 61 kWh variant produces 172 bhp and 192 Nm (!!) of torque.

Originally Posted by Auto_guy_101

While the BE6 is truly a leap forward in technology and is in a sense value for money, the other side of the coin I see is making an impression that a 4.3m mid size SUV EV with 500km of range can be sold for 30L+ otr. This I feel is a significant problem. A good ICE 4.3m SUV can be had easily for 22-23. L and one has to bear a cool 8L premium to get the EV with usable long distance range. Add the diesel for comparison and you will get the EV only if you're all for the environment (even that is debatable).

I do see your point of view, and yes, prices have been going through the roof. But the BE 6 and XEV 9e are superbly engineered products and were benchmarked against some of the top global products. Also, they are packed with features never seen before in this price range. IMO, the Mahindra twins are decently priced and they are worth the ~5-6 lakh premium over the ICE competition.

Originally Posted by Auto_guy_101

I expect this will land at about 27L otr for the highest trim.

I genuinely hope not. The top-spec BE 6 is about 29 lakhs OTR Mumbai, and pricing the e-Vitara this close to the BE 6 would be disastrous. Moreover, it feels off to see a <4.3m crossover to be priced so high as you said, especially because it isn't groundbreaking as a product. I think it should be priced in the ballpark of the Creta Electric for it to make sense as an overall package.

[volkman10]

Originally Posted by CentreOfGravity

---- But the BE 6 and XEV 9e are superbly engineered products and were benchmarked against some of the top global products. Also, they are packed with features never seen before in this price range.--

Why is Mahindra hesitant in releasing these BEVs to global markets or is okay for Indians to be the beta testers for their cars?

[K_Tayal]

Suzuki E-Vitara drive review from UK.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0Bd8XZwZl8

[volkman10]

Suzuki e Vitara and its design philosophy. Meet the Japanese engineers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl5k-eOSNwc&t=351s

[veyron09]

Maruti E-Vitara spotted at a Nexa dealer. Launch likely to be imminent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heW40ZOi_oo

[veyron09]

Originally Posted by veyron09

Maruti E-Vitara spotted at a Nexa dealer. Launch likely to be imminent.

https://www.Youtube.com/watch?v=heW40ZOi_oo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nH-LU7c-5wY

[volkman10]

Maruti Suzuki e Vitara India sales to start before September-end. (Global launch?)

Maruti will produce nearly 70,000 units of the e Vitara in FY26.

> Maruti will produce nearly 70,000 units of the e Vitara in FY26, and a large chunk will be for the export markets.

Link:

[narayans80]

Originally Posted by volkman10

Maruti will produce nearly 70,000 units of the e Vitara in FY26.

That's roughly 4300 unts a month. And Maruti doesn't even foresee half of those volumes from India?

[WhyMe]

Originally Posted by narayans80

That's roughly 4300 unts a month. And Maruti doesn't even foresee half of those volumes from India?

I think they must be having hard time in pitting their product against domestic BEVs by Mahindra. For instance their best battery pack offering (61kwh) is what Mahindra starts with (59kwh), among other things
I wonder if they can't compete domestically, that too so slow moving, what chances they have abroad.

[volkman10]

Originally Posted by narayans80

That's roughly 4300 unts a month. And Maruti doesn't even foresee half of those volumes from India?

Maruti Suzuki's EV push will be exported oriented initially.

>A significant catalyst for the export push will be Maruti’s new electric SUV, which has already been unveiled.

> Most of the EVs produced in the initial phase will be directed toward exports, while domestic deliveries will begin before September.

>The company is expected to leverage Suzuki’s global distribution network to drive international EV sales in key markets across Asia, Latin America, and Africa.

>This year’s production will largely be exported. ( referring to EVs)

> The annual production in the 6–7 months that we're talking about will be somewhere near 70,000 electric vehicles, the bulk of which will be exported.


Link:

[Carma2017]

Originally Posted by narayans80

That's roughly 4300 unts a month. And Maruti doesn't even foresee half of those volumes from India?

Would you buy this (e-Vitara), say at 25L +/- 2 Lacs on road price , if you were in the market for buying an EV? I quote this price very very very optimistically looking at the European prices of Toyota.

[narayans80]

Originally Posted by Carma2017

Would you buy this (e-Vitara), say at 25L +/- 2 Lacs on road price , if you were in the market for buying an EV?

Isn't that the price BYD is selling the CBU Atto 3 at?

And Maruti who is going to produce the chassis locally going to sell the e-Vitara at the same cost?

[antz.bin]

Originally Posted by Carma2017

Would you buy this (e-Vitara), say at 25L +/- 2 Lacs on road price , if you were in the market for buying an EV? I quote this price very very very optimistically looking at the European prices of Toyota.

Today, you can get a BE6 79 for 26.9 lakh (< 25+2)

In September, for 24.5 lakh, you could get, the BE6 59 kWh Pack 3 Select.

Some time later, you should be able to get
Pack 2 at 21.9 lakh
Pack 1 at 18.9 lakh.

This is a car with 50% more power and looks that could kill.

Sometime in the near future, the MG S5 EV should come into the mix too (SUV version of MG4, successor to the ZS). That, in the 64 kWh avatar, is an even better rounded product compared to the 59 kWh Mahindra. It was launched at a price 10% lower than the equivalent ZS wherever it was introduced.

Not to forget the Harrier EV (and Sierra EV) that was also showcased recently and has to tough it out with the 2 Mahindras.

In terms of practicality, the eVitara is not too much better than the BE6. It's far behind the MG S5.

BE6 is being sold by a manufacturer that has the highest market share in the 15-30 lakh price segment in India. It's very hard for eVitara without the AWD to be able to compete with them. Just no USP.

The only price it can work at is if they sell the top end variant for <20 lakh. Then it can gobble up sales like the Windsor. They can choose to price it at par or more than the Creta Electric too, but then that is what it will sell like.

[SRS]

The Base model Atto 3 Dynamic with 49.92 kWh battery costs 25 lakhs ex-showroom only, the BE 6 which uses the Blade battery tech as well, costs between 18.90 lakhs (59 kWh) to 26.90 lakhs (79 kWh) ex-showroom, so the eVitara with 49 and 61 kWh batteries can't cost more than these by any means, at most in this ballpark. The launch is due soon, with deliveries in a few months, so let's see how Maruti prices it.

[Carma2017]

Originally Posted by narayans80

Isn't that the price BYD is selling the CBU Atto 3 at?

And Maruti who is going to produce the chassis locally going to sell the e-Vitara at the same cost?

I don't know but Suzuki not planning very low volumes for India tells a story. Probably learning from Jimny, they are going all guns blazing in exports from get go. The e-Vitara, spec for spec, is not too lower specced than Atto 3, if not more. But, the BYD blade batteries in e-Vitara are imported in my understanding to ensure high reliability. So, the costs would shoot up.

But what Suzuki has, is reach (network) and scale. So, they may pull a rabbit out of the hat. But, let us not get hopes up.