[saubi2299]

Originally Posted by Turbanator

I hope this stays and other states take note and implement the same. Chandigarh did this last year and later back tracked. I have a feeling this may not last long.


https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/india...g-hybrids.html (Chandigarh : No Road Tax on Strong and Plug-In hybrids)

After seeing your last year’s post about Road Tax waiver for hybrids in Chandigarh, I had cancelled my booking in Gurgaon and purchased Invicto in Chandigarh to avail the benefits in September. Really thankful to you. Got to know from your post only that Chandigarh admin stopped that scheme for Invicto in November itself.

In today’s era when cars have waiting period of more than 6 months, such frequent changes in policy are bound to leave a sour experience for many.

[vegitakarthik]

Originally Posted by TorqueIndia

Rajeev Chaba, CEO MG India slams hybrids on offer today:
Even though MG's presence in India is limited with lower volumes, 40% of their sales are brought now by EVs alone, the ZS and the COMET.

Looking at their plans to launch EV's & PHEV's https://www.team-bhp.com/news/mg-mot...odels-end-2025,
it's easy deduce why he got flustered by UP governments announcement bashing both mild hybrid & strong hybrids alike.

[Mitadru]

Originally Posted by ferrarirules

Sorry you have got this wrong. PHEV are better than SHEV vehicles.
1. PHEV have longer battery only range
2. Even if someone doesn't recharge the car, PHEV battery will also get recharged with regen same as the SHEV vehicles.
3. PHEV can solely be run on batteries if a person doesn't travel more than 80-90 kms in a day.

I knew some of the pointers above. Thanks for clarifying though. However, in some websites like CleanTechnica, I have read that many people in the US don't actually plug-in their vehicles. They just buy those to get those tax credit and things. Also , since the battery is usually a bigger one than that of the self- recharging hybrids ,how much energy is actually put back by regen? And if PHEVs do come to India, they'll help many of the fence sitters, who are still not sure of an electric vehicle, but still wants reduced fuel expenses. I hope Toyota or MG will take a step forward in this.

[LMOO2]

Originally Posted by pacman2881

OT - In all this confusion there is one unintended beneficiary - the XUV700 customer

It is as though the Govt pranked M&M into a price cut!

Its the best time to buy a XUV7OO. XUV7OO price cut has badly affected the market since now every customer is expecting good discounts. I was offered a discount of 2+ lac on Fortuner 4x4 AT Diesel and they have a December 2023 model for which they are giving 3 lac discount without even negotiation. Can anyone tell how much discount is good for a Fortuner 4x4 diesel AT? Or I should wait for the Endeavour CBU which is slated to launch in the first half of 2025. Since the upcoming expressways demand a car with ADAS.

[ferrarirules]

Originally Posted by Mitadru

Also , since the battery is usually a bigger one than that of the self- recharging hybrids ,how much energy is actually put back by regen?

Size of the battery doesn't matter for regen. It will provide a set amount of voltage and current to charge the battery. It will charge both batteries with same amount.

[drsachin]

https://www.pressreader.com/india/mi...81857238773819

As per this ruling of court all hybrids brought in UP since EV policy 2022 should receive Road Tax refunds.

[carsirdar]

Mahindra & Mahindra in a recent filing in the NSE says that hybrid to the company are interim and costly solutions.
Thought like sharing with all. A honest assessment by the company.

https://nsearchives.nseindia.com/cor...Intimation.pdf

[BANDHAV]

Bought a Hyryder Hybrid G Variant, this purchase was planned for the end of this year but the tax rebate incentive was too good to be passed. 1.89 lacs straight off from the on-road price.

[uditanshh]

Hybrid Road Tax Waiver to continue for now says UP Govt.

The Uttar Pradesh government said it will continue to extend incentives to support sales of both electric and strong hybrid cars as penetration of both technologies in new vehicle sales in the state are minuscule, but may consider modifications in the policy if market dynamics change going ahead.
The benefits are valid for about a year till Oct 2025.
Major carmakers attended the meeting chaired by Chief Secretary, Uttar Pradesh Government held in Lucknow on Sunday.

The state government concluded that given that penetration of both electric and strong hybrid vehicles is negligible at about 1.5%, it will continue to offer incentives on these vehicles for now

The state government said that it (the EV policy) is not a permanent one, it is dynamic. Right now, sales of both hybrid and electric vehicles are low. The transport commissioner was also present at the meeting, along with representatives from RTOs. They will examine the market situation in detail and if some changes are needed, they are open to making them

Source - Economic Times

[volkman10]

Uttar Pradesh backs hybrid tax waiver.

Uttar Pradesh will not reverse a decision to waive registration taxes for Strong Hybrids.

The state will uphold its decision to waive registration taxes for hybrid cars.

The tax waiver makes hybrid cars up to 10% cheaper, potentially influencing other states.

Link:

[pratyaksh]

Looks like the hybrid tax cut is here to stay after all that hither and tither

[kgt.v8]

Originally Posted by pratyaksh

Looks like the hybrid tax cut is here to stay after all that hither and tither

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I wish other states in south to follow the same. We are bleeding through the nose to pay high road taxes in southern states 17%-20% (>₹10lakh ex-showroom cost) of ex-showroom which makes on-road price too high.

I am curious to know how UP government revenue benefits by providing these RTO discounts.
When the car is sold in UP, does the local state government get any part of GST amount that is added to ex-factory price?

[DigitalOne]

Originally Posted by kgt.v8

When the car is sold in UP, does the local state government get any part of GST amount that is added to ex-factory price?

In any intra/within state transaction (not only cars), the state gets half of the total GST. You can see this in any normal retail offline purchases you do. If the GST is 18%, for example, then you will see a split up Central GST (CGST) as 9%, and State GST (SGST) as 9%.

The third type of tax component, that is Inter-state GST (IGST) is something you may see in ecommerce/online purchases where the seller is in some other state. This is collected by the centre and automatically goes to the state where the purchaser is located.

[PreludeSH]

Originally Posted by kgt.v8

I wish other states in south to follow the same. We are bleeding through the nose to pay high road taxes in southern states 17%-20% (>₹10lakh ex-showroom cost) of ex-showroom which makes on-road price too high.

I am curious to know how UP government revenue benefits by providing these RTO discounts.
When the car is sold in UP, does the local state government get any part of GST amount that is added to ex-factory price?

I think you might know the answer. If you pay 1 rupee and get back 2.79 in central tax distribution, they have other sources. In addition with all the infra development that has happened in roads/airports etc. Karnataka gets 13 paise back. Some absolute numbers https://www.indiabudget.gov.in/doc/rec/annex4a.pdf

Bihar which get Rs 7.06 should be tax free for all vehicles. Ultimately look at the economic, social and other development factors. Dont we all look at Nordic countries and say they live well with the very high taxes they pay ?

There is lot of tax avoidance, corruption in our country and hence we are not happy. But stil I am not happy paying so much inspite of all these reasons

[DigitalOne]

Originally Posted by PreludeSH

Bihar which get Rs 7.06 should be tax free for all vehicles. Ultimately look at the economic, social and other development factors.

A state's revenue consists of State GST (SGST) and what it gets as distribution from the Central pool. If you make Bihar tax-free for all vehicles, then they will not earn a single rupee of SGST and center will have to foot 100% of Bihar's expenditure. Do you really want that ?

The formula for distribution of the central pool of taxes to the states is based on Finance Commision formula. As you see below in the 15th Finance Commission (2021-2026), there are positive changes to the formula. For instance, the weightage of absolute population has dropped from 27.5% to 15% and this difference is now "Demographic Performance" i.e. states which are able to control their population growth are given more weightage. "Tax Performance" is also added as a new criterion.



Given our large states (UP's population > Germany + France + Britain), there is disparity within the states itself. For example, Mumbai-Pune-Nashik region vs Vidarbha, or Bengaluru-Mysore vs North Karnataka. Should individual regions get to keep the taxes they generate?

These are tough policy decisions and should not be trivialized by showing misleading statistics. Giving back the entire revenue generated by a state/region back to the state/region will just make the underdeveloped states/regions fall back more and more.

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