[Jazzwithme]

Slightly different question here. I have a UP registered vehicle and I moved to Hyderabad. But I may need to get back to Delhi NCR after couple of years or so.
What would be the best option?

[lejhoom]

Regarding the query raised above, we had an incident with one of our cars that had been registered outside Telangana. The car was seized by RTA at Gachibowli, Hyderabad and we were forced to get the NOC from the original registered place and then was asked to pay LifeTax (the car was already more than 10 years old). Don’t remember the amount paid. However, the registration was not changed to Telangana. It continued with the old number. Afterwards whenever any official stopped the vehicle, showing the tax receipt was sufficient. No more questions.

[MT_Hyderabad]

Originally Posted by lejhoom

..., we were forced to get the NOC from the original registered place and then was asked to pay LifeTax

However, the registration was not changed to Telangana. It continued with the old number. Afterwards whenever any official stopped the vehicle, showing the tax receipt was sufficient. No more questions.

NOC is not needed. Imagine a new car on loan gets caught, will the car be released such that the offender can take it back to the native state, pay the remaining loan amount, get an NOC and comeback here with the car?

If something like this happens, just pay the tax and walk away. Of course, you have to negotiate with the police with proper reasoning.
If they give the car back to take it to the native state to get the NOC (I don't think they are so foolish), sell it off to cars24 or spinny in Hyderabad.

No one can force you to register a car and bring NOC as per the laws. There is a window of at least 6 months, wherein it should be registered after paying the life tax.

[lejhoom]

Maybe you are right. What happened to us was that it was RTA seizure. They didn’t listen to any pleading. Someone had to go to the original registered place and obtain the NOC.

[vardhann5]

Here are some documents that I received from a friend which talk about similar instances from 2015 and how the court addressed.
Can someone please help to decode into simple English so we can all understand what exactly is it saying?

[Beemer1077]

Originally Posted by Highh5

It looks like Telangana RTO will be going to start a drive now to seize overstaying out-of-state vehicles. Articles state that vehicles plying in Telangana for more than 30 days will be impounded or they would have to pay the tax. I see this as an exercise to harass the working class or a way to mop up revenues for funding the freebies. Would like to know what fellow Bhpians think about this?

This is a repeat of what the Karnataka Government did in 2014. It is just a way to harass the general public as a new form of revenue since other methods are exhausted for freebies. Honestly, if there are army officers have a change of station from state lines, they will not tolerate it at all and take down these morally corrupted cops and other authorities.

I am glad they are not penalizing bicyclists if someone breaks a traffic rule by mistake or enters into a prohibited road, or gets it out of state to avoid paying taxes such as octroi and all(Not sure if bicycles are taxed at all across the country or if they come under GST). Otherwise they will also begin to do that.

[alkaknar]

Originally Posted by Beemer1077

I am glad they are not penalizing bicyclists if someone breaks a traffic rule by mistake or enters into a prohibited road, or gets it out of state to avoid paying taxes such as octroi and all(Not sure if bicycles are taxed at all across the country or if they come under GST). Otherwise they will also begin to do that.

Yeah, but don't forget that they may not technically fine them, but they can bribe them.

[Beemer1077]

Originally Posted by alkaknar

Yeah, but don't forget that they may not technically fine them, but they can bribe them.

That can be even more troublesome for cops who demand bribes, especially if someone records this and posts it on YouTube, Facebook, X and all. If they demand bribes to release bicycles, it is even worse because once it comes out in questioning, then and there itself, those officials will be fired. And public humiliation is worse than being reprimanded privately.

[ashkamath]

Originally Posted by Jazzwithme

Slightly different question here. I have a UP registered vehicle and I moved to Hyderabad. But I may need to get back to Delhi NCR after couple of years or so.
What would be the best option?

If I were you, I wouldn't bother getting the UP registered vehicle to Hyderabad for a couple of years. I would rather buy an used car/motorcycle in Hyderabad and sell it in Hyderabad while relocating to Delhi NCR after a couple of years. This is a much simpler and cleaner alternative than to pay lifetime tax for the vehicle that will remain in Hyderabad for only a couple of years. Plus the hassle of NOC and all the transfer related issues. And you have to repeat the process after relocating to Delhi again changing the registration of Telangana.

Maybe spinny or Cars24 sell a car with buy back guarantee/ option after a couple of years or leasing a car is also another option.

Ofcourse the drawback is the additional expense in purchasing an used car/ motorcycle. Hopefully a reasonable chunk of the purchase amount could be recovered while selling the vehicle after a few years.

[RunGaDa]

Originally Posted by sirius

One time is better than every 6 months to visit RTO office in our country. It is painful to visit govt offices in present way the things are run.

It all boils down to the system. If we have to fix one thing we also have to fix the related things.

[yadavsid21]

Originally Posted by Tuisha110HP

Question!

I have a DL number car, currently in Hyd. If I pay the lifetime road taxes :

1) Is it mandatory to change the number to TS number?

2) Will the car be allowed to run for 15 years, without changing the number, if I pay the road taxes?

Is there a workaround which I can use to get the NOC without having to travel to Delhi?

After 1 year its mandatory to change the number i.e. reassign the car.
TG police wont force you to get NOC directly but thats required to change the number.

Originally Posted by lejhoom

The car was seized by RTA at Gachibowli, Hyderabad and we were forced to get the NOC from the original registered place and then was asked to pay LifeTax (the car was already more than 10 years old).

Was this a recent incident?

As per MV Act TG/AP we have to "intimate" the relevant RTA within one month and reassign if stay is beyond 1 year.
Now whats the process for intimation?- not clear.
Also intimation means "paying road tax"? - not clearly mentioned.
4.5yr old Seltos would be taxed at 14.5% ex showroom i.e. 2.17L plus grease money as reassigning is a manual & compless process as opposed to new vehicle registration.

[lejhoom]

Originally Posted by yadavsid21

After 1 year its mandatory to change the number i.e. reassign the car.
TG police wont force you to get NOC directly but thats required to change the number.


Was this a recent incident?

As per MV Act TG/AP we have to "intimate" the relevant RTA within one month and reassign if stay is beyond 1 year.
Now whats the process for intimation?- not clear.
Also intimation means "paying road tax"? - not clearly mentioned.
4.5yr old Seltos would be taxed at 14.5% ex showroom i.e. 2.17L plus grease money as reassigning is a manual & compless process as opposed to new vehicle registration.

Happened before Covid lockdown. (Funny how we demarcate time with regard to COVID.)

All the rules are made for one purpose: collecting money. Therefore, paying tax is an all-inclusive term. The sad part is the tax on older vehicles. Virtually no body got any money back from the state the vehicle is originally registered.

I guess in lieu of spending huge amount on tax, it makes sense to drive across the border every month and prove your point against the statute.

[svsantosh]

Originally Posted by tilt

The onus is on the cops/RTO /accuser to prove that my car has been inside TS for longer than 30 days. It is not for the accused to prove a negative.

How will they prove their accusation?

CHEERS

Oh my, Deja Vu (imagine 3-4 more emoticons here..../limit/)

Life comes a full circle after 15 years!

1000s of long time residents of Bangalore from TN, KL, AP/TS (they themselves), PY (how can we forget), MH, DL, UP, and whomsoever were harassed over 2 decades can give their invaluable experiences and advices how they either paid up or got away after years of harassment at the hands of Bangalore police, their sub-contractors who were paid a few hundred Rupees a day to hold a Lathi stick and flag down all Non-KA cars just coming out of a Green signal. These contractors have damaged car doors, panels with lathis, sat on bonnet in the name of cop high handedness. It was a terror once on Bangalore streets.

https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/india...ds-1-year.html (Out-of-state cars can run on Karnataka roads for 1 year!)

https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/stree...karnataka.html (Non KA registered vehicles not welcomed in Karnataka!!!???)

https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/india...bangalore.html (Case: Out of State Cars vs RTO Bangalore)

There was a social warrior named Waseem Menon silverwood, a bangalore resident & KL native, who like me (TN) and many others were victims of the non-KA drive.

https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/members/silverwood.html

Shiver me timbers... brrrr!! Not again!

[techrider]

I strongly feel BH series should be mandatory for all existing and new vehicles. This would simplify a lot of hassles like these that we are facing right now and also some states like Telangana and Maharashtra refuse to register in BH.

A quick question on the above scenario: what is the process for reregistering across states if we are compelled for hypothecated vehicles. My bank is refusing to give me NoC for reregistration and I feel it's a dead end with a possibility of being harassed by the RTA authorities.

[vvbkumar]

There is one other complexity with this rule, I observed that most vehicles registered in Telangana RTOs pre-bifurcation still have "AP" plates.

AP/TS/TG, what a mess of the number plates in Telangana. On a side note, with number series restarting with TG, will there be a scenario where there are 2 same sequences, for e.g. TS 09 AA 1234 and TG 09 AA 1234. I wonder what happens in this case down the line.