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Old 8th May 2024, 08:37   #31
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Re: 2024 Case Study: Rise of the Tata Punch to #1 ranking in India

My 2 cents - It's just a well built, good looking car imo. Sometimes, that's all it takes. The engine is no scorcher definitely and maruti certainly makes a better 1.2L engine than Tata but I don't trust Maruti's build quality especially for their hatchbacks and psuedo-SUVs (and probably never will), so if I had to pick a psuedo-SUV under 10 lacs, between the Exter, Ignis and Punch, it is the Punch for me. Not that I am inclined to buy it currently, I am not attracted to psuedo micro "SUVs". It is a shame that these hatchbacks on stilts are even called "SUVs" by their manufacturers.

I am yet to meet someone who bought the Punch for it's engine. It's good enough for the city and sufficient for highway runs, for most people that is enough. Not only in the case of the Punch, but on several other occasions, the general populace have proved that their tastes differ vastly from our tastes, as car enthusiasts.

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Re: 2024 Case Study: Rise of the Tata Punch to #1 ranking in India

A visual representation of Punch stealing the 1st spot from Wagon R

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Re: Tata Punch remains the most popular model in April 2024

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Great for Tata Punch doing numbers, but why has Tata Nexon dropped its numbers?

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IMO Punch itself is punching Nexon sales.
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Old 8th May 2024, 11:04   #34
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Re: 2024 Case Study: Rise of the Tata Punch to #1 ranking in India

Is there a subdivision for punch sales to know how many EV’s they sold? I have seen Punch EV’s more frequently than i have seen Nexon Ev. I do feel the EV version is a good option for first time EV hoppers.
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Re: 2024 Case Study: Rise of the Tata Punch to #1 ranking in India

I believe Tata Punch would have stiff competition with the introduction of the new Maruti Suzuki Swift 2024 model. The 2024 Swift is set to launch in India on May 9, 2024, with an anticipated price range of ₹6.50-₹10 lakh.

The new Swift's will come with new 1.2-liter , 3-cylinder Z series petrol engine. The new Z series engine can generates 80 brake horsepower (bhp) and 112 newton meters (Nm) of peak torque. I guess it will come with 5-speed manual as well as AMT transmission.

Again, the most striking feature of the new Swift is that it can achieve mileage of 25.72 kilometers per liter (kmpl) according to ARAI certification. The new-generation Swift has 6 airbags and got an impressive 4-star safety rating in the Japan NCAP crash test, scoring 90%.

Let's cross our fingers and see if it can hold onto the top spot in the upcoming days or not. So eagerly waiting to see how it responds.
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Re: 2024 Case Study: Rise of the Tata Punch to #1 ranking in India

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I believe Tata Punch would have stiff competition with the introduction of the new Maruti Suzuki Swift 2024 model.
I don't think so.

There is a simple reason why the Punch beat the Wagon R. It is more aspirational. It has better styling, better interiors, and feels more sophisticated to drive. All these at approx. 1 lakh premium over the Wagon R - and perhaps 50,000 premium over the new Swift.

These are nothing in EMI terms. Is Wagon R still the sensible person's choice? Yes, it is = it's much easier on the pocket to maintain. But, the market for sensible cars is shrinking. Maruti needs to wake up.
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Re: 2024 Case Study: Rise of the Tata Punch to #1 ranking in India

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I don't think so.

There is a simple reason why the Punch beat the Wagon R. It is more aspirational. It has better styling, better interiors, and feels more sophisticated to drive. All these at approx. 1 lakh premium over the Wagon R - and perhaps 50,000 premium over the new Swift.
You forgot the most important factor that favors the Punch - it's a lot safer than Wagon R!
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Re: 2024 Case Study: Rise of the Tata Punch to #1 ranking in India

Great to see a Tata brand taking the podium position and hope that they maintain the lead over its rivals in the coming months.
It all boils down to one point, that the general masses will buy anything which looks like or resembles a SUV and does the transportation job from point A to point B. TATA brand with its 'Punch' model indeed has created a new segment in this price segment and looks like they have got everything right on parameters like space, comfort and the engine design and now they are reaping the benefits of the same. Going forward IMO they will continue with the 3 pot engine and any changes in the engine type and design carries a risk of eating into the sales of other models like Nexon.
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Re: 2024 Case Study: Rise of the Tata Punch to #1 ranking in India

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I don't think so.

There is a simple reason why the Punch beat the Wagon R. It is more aspirational. It has better styling, better interiors, and feels more sophisticated to drive. All these at approx. 1 lakh premium over the Wagon R - and perhaps 50,000 premium over the new Swift.

These are nothing in EMI terms. Is Wagon R still the sensible person's choice? Yes, it is = it's much easier on the pocket to maintain. But, the market for sensible cars is shrinking. Maruti needs to wake up.
Purchasing a car is a significant financial commitment, particularly for first-time buyers. A few years ago, the Maruti Suzuki Alto completely dominated this particular category of buyers. However, the preferences of this class of buyers have switched to slightly premium hatchbacks such as the Maruti WagonR. This is why I believe the WagonR will remain in demand for some more years before fading away.
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Re: 2024 Case Study: Rise of the Tata Punch to #1 ranking in India

Tata Punch is a very good car. Have been driving one since last 2 years. The looks, interiors, seats, road manners, stability at high speed and suspension is all very sorted. It's well built and safe too, what it lacks is refinement and performance. Mine is BS6 Phase 1, but Phase 2 feels slightly more refined but it's the performance that's sort of leaves a lot to be desired. It's neither quick nor effortless to drive nor is it that efficient.

Tata has addressed that in Punch EV which is far more engaging to drive and has low running costs. But range isn't that great. Users have reported range of 220-270 kms for Long Range Version with AC and Regen. It's half of what Tata claims officially. But as a secondary car for city runs and school drop/pickup etc, this is a very good option.

I am even thinking of replacing my Punch Petrol with an EV since I have a Innova Hycross for Highway drives. Will surely be checking out the Punch EV in next few days. My running isn't that much (20kms/day) but inside city, a petrol car isn't efficient and along with added heat and ever rising traffic, an EV makes more sense despite the premium pricing.
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Re: 2024 Case Study: Rise of the Tata Punch to #1 ranking in India

Your analysis is indeed insightful!

In my opinion, the Punch was a surprise package for TATA. There was a time when TATA was struggling to get some of it's vehicles into the top 10, but now things are changing. After it's launch, no one expected the Punch to become the top-seller in such a short span. It's sales picked up slowly and steadily through customer feedback and the value for money proposition it offers. The SUV styling played a key role as it was able to attract many first time buyers.

Now, what remains to be seen is how long the Punch can hold that number one spot.
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Re: 2024 Case Study: Rise of the Tata Punch to #1 ranking in India

When Punch was first launched, there was a lot of scepticism on the segment where it would compete, the competition from Nexon and also the name itself. I was also one of the sceptics who never thought the product would be so successful as to give 40% of sales for Tamo!
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Re: 2024 Case Study: Rise of the Tata Punch to #1 ranking in India

To be honest, the Punch's only real drawback is its lack of power. However, for many, cruising comfortably at 90-100kmph is sufficient. As we all know, safety has become a priority for many, even over mileage (as long as the average claimed efficiency remains nearby 20km/l). I believe the Punch's biggest advantage is the absence of direct competition. While Exter poses a challenge, Hyundai's delay in obtaining an NCAP rating is becoming its Achilles' heel. "Do-it-all" vehicles are becoming the norm now to tackle diverse Indian roads, hence SUVs (be it small and big) are becoming dominant day by day. In that context, it's puzzling why the market leader, Maruti, hasn't upgraded its "Ignis" to compete with the Punch. Fronx was an awesome product, but too pricey to really challenge the Punch. On the other hand, if Hyundai's Exter manages to achieve a 5-star NCAP rating, it may be able to challenge the Punch's dominance.
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Re: Tata Punch remains the most popular model in April 2024

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Great for Tata Punch doing numbers, but why has Tata Nexon dropped its numbers?

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The price difference between Nexon and Punch seems to pull customers towards Punch.

Seeing the EV sales for both Punch and Nexon will be interesting. I guess Nexon has taken a big hit in EV sales.

Punch.ev is gen2 has an identical range and seems a better package than Nexon.ev. Tata must have upgraded Nexon.ev to new platform along with a facelift. Hope they update Nexon.ev, Tiago.ev and Tigor.ev all to Gen2 sooner.
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To be honest, the Punch's only real drawback is its lack of power. However, for many, cruising comfortably at 90-100kmph is sufficient. As we all know, safety has become a priority for many, even over mileage (as long as the average claimed efficiency remains nearby 20km/l).
While this is indeed good to have, fuel efficiency is important from the city driving perspective. My Tiago seems to have unfortunately settled into a 11-13 kmpl rhythm in medium-high traffic conditions, where a Maruti equivalent may have at least 15-16 kmpl.
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