[Senotrius]

Originally Posted by blueberry

Big industries care about getting the job done fast. They're less sensitive about mild cost overrun.
Business friendly in Indian context = a govt willing to get their palms greased. Industries like to operate in TN because they can do what they want to do, at any speed which suits them, without administrative red tape.
Whats the cost for this - "taking care of the government"



Spot on. 20years ago in TN, you pay both the ruling and the opposition party. Ruling party gets 75, opposition gets 25.
In fact, the ruling party guys themselves used to inform about the 25 cut to the opposition party.
I do not know about the current "revenue share" or if the camaraderie runs today.

You said it correctly. In Kerala it doesn't matter- you're forced to give to everyone + govt babus and even then it's issues galore from them. Union issues/ strikes/ delays/ red tape and what not. Again, maybe people don't understand the situation wrt industries and businesses or job availability here. It's why mallus setup industries just outside their state. This is not a political statement. Just stating the reality down here. We're a consumer economy mainly. For us Tamil Nadu/Karnataka/Andhra/Telangana is the choice if planning to setup anything substantial.

[Gaur]

Originally Posted by blueberry

Whats the cost for this - "taking care of the government"

Absolutely true, heard the same from someone who does business there, he casually mentioned it's a "single window clearance system"

[SuperGirl_Dad]

Originally Posted by RaghuVis

This qualifies for the joke of the month if you think there are political parties, especially in TN, that do not need palms greased perpetually.

Originally Posted by blueberry

Whats the cost for this - "taking care of the government"

Spot on. 20years ago in TN, you pay both the ruling and the opposition party. Ruling party gets 75, opposition gets 25.
In fact, the ruling party guys themselves used to inform about the 25 cut to the opposition party.
I do not know about the current "revenue share" or if the camaraderie runs today.

Hmm, dunno why this thread took turn into discussing politics . Right from Independence, there are many Leaders with Integrity like Kingmaker Kamraj, who heralded the industrial revolution in India. Please read up on the number of agriculture, education and industrial development projects that was implemented. Irrespective of political party that "Vision" is still carried forward by all TN leaders . TATA plans to setup plant in TN, doesnt mean its only up to money. There are several factors at play - resource availability, port for transportation, components manufacturing base etc.

[Unstuck]

Setting up of Tata plant for EV JLR vehicles in TN, in Ranipet that is near Vellore, is good. A little relief for Chennai. Lamborghini tractors were manufactured there (https://www.team-bhp.com/news/lambor...old-india-2014). Not sure if they are still being manufactured.

But its export cargo still needs to go to port via Chennai. I guess the plans for elevated corridors and outer ring roads (in and around Chennai), if executed well, might provide respite. The issue is that the implementation of these infrastructure projects will be delayed, adding to traffic woes.

Regarding the discussion on taking care of government, It may be the case. I do not have first hand experience of it. But I know there is corruption here in TN. I am ashamed of it. Corruption is rampant in India as a whole. In that case, I could also be right in assuming that this 'taking care of the government' is the case everywhere in India. As pointed out previously, the discussion is turning political.

[viggienomad]

All EV plants in TN were clustered near Hosur. Titan, the JV between Tata & TIDCO (Tamilnadu Industrial Development Corp.) a state govt company, is also based in Hosur. This city is also the main production base for Ashok Leyland & TVS motors.

Several EV related ancillaries are already setup there. So Hosur is also a good possibility.

We have a thread here
https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/india...-industry.html (Tamil Nadu's Hosur - Small town, big impact on the auto industry)

[AmitG]

I've been asking Tata Motors this question since they acquired JLR

Originally Posted by TusharK

Tata Motors has signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) with the government of Tamil Nadu to set up a new manufacturing unit in the state. The new $1 billion facility will be used to manufacture Jaguar Land Rover models.

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If the latest reports are true, then it would be the first time that JLR cars would be manufactured in India from the ground up. It is said that the factory will not only build cars for the domestic market but will also serve as an export hub.

Tata Motors acquired the British luxury brand in 2008. The company currently has factories in the UK, China, Brazil and Slovakia. JLR models sold in India are either imported as completely built units (CBUs) or assembled using CKD kits at a plant near Pune.

Tata Motors announced its plans to set up a plant in Tamil Nadu in March. However, the company did not disclose any details regarding the type of vehicles that would be manufactured there. It is still not clear as to which JLR models would be built at this facility, but some reports suggest that it is likely to be used to manufacture the brand’s upcoming EVs.

Source: Reuters

Link to Team-BHP News

[Sahil]

https://www.overdrive.in/news-cars-a...rom-june-2024/

Production to start as early as next month. I wonder what the pricing could be like?

I’m sure the customisation options will now stop or come down greatly. Their maybe just one HSE and/or Autobiography model with 3 interior options and half a dozen exterior color options to choose from.
Considering they want to use this for exports too means they probably will rely more on local vendors that could bring the price down considerable.

A 2cr price tag for a Autobiography LWB Range Rover is what I’m hoping for since it costs 1.3cr inr in the UK.

[ajmat]

Originally Posted by Sahil

https://www.overdrive.in/news-cars-a...rom-june-2024/

Production to start as early as next month. I wonder what the pricing could be like?

Where is the plant?

The only viable plants would be Ford's old plant and perhaps the old HM plant - currently assembling Citroens. Perhaps Stellantis will sell this plant to Tata and consolidate in Pune.

[pragvanshsaini]

Hi guys, do you think Land Rover will share any of their engines with Tata SUVs? Or their AWD technology in future?

[DRPSREDDY]

Originally Posted by pragvanshsaini

Hi guys, do you think Land Rover will share any of their engines with Tata SUVs? Or their AWD technology in future?

This thought was always in my mind After 2023 EU and UK plan to ban all ICE. It will be clever to trickle ICE engine technology slowly to TML PV division. The PV division's access to the 2.0L petrol & diesel and hybrid tech will do wonders.

[shortbread]

Originally Posted by Sahil

https://www.overdrive.in/news-cars-a...rom-june-2024/

Production to start as early as next month. I wonder what the pricing could be like?

I’m sure the customisation options will now stop or come down greatly. Their maybe just one HSE and/or Autobiography model with 3 interior options and half a dozen exterior color options to choose from.
Considering they want to use this for exports too means they probably will rely more on local vendors that could bring the price down considerable.

A 2cr price tag for a Autobiography LWB Range Rover is what I’m hoping for since it costs 1.3cr inr in the UK.

Originally Posted by ajmat

Where is the plant?

The only viable plants would be Ford's old plant and perhaps the old HM plant - currently assembling Citroens. Perhaps Stellantis will sell this plant to Tata and consolidate in Pune.

The timelines make little sense, especially if they are planning to invest 9000cr? That kind of investment will take time to come up and running.

Inflation, Sky-high energy costs, political instability.... it was only time before JLR needed to diversify it's manufacturing outside the UK.

[AdiSinghV12]

As per a little birdy in JLR India, further confirmed by a freelancing luxury car dealer the Range Rover Sport, Vogue & Defender might commence CKD production soon.

If price benefit is passed on well, this could be the game changer in its segment

[Sahil]

You may have missed this thread: https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/india...factory-2.html (Tata to build Jaguar Land Rover cars at Tamil Nadu factory)

[Nano45]

Tata Motors-JLR Tamil Nadu project to get a move within two months

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bus...2800313_1.html

[shortbread]

Tata JLR Tamil Nadu plant foundation stone to be laid on September 28

Construction of the ambitious new Tata JLR factory is set to kick off soon, the Indian giant eagerly aims to position India as a global export hub! Personally, I may have preferred their previous cunning strategy of snagging well-developed, high-tech plants from companies winding down their operations in India at bargain prices. Who needs to build from scratch when you can just wait for Japanese and European manufacturers to offer their factories on a silver platter in a few years?

The new plant is part of a memorandum of understanding (MoU) signed between Tata Motors and the Tamil Nadu government and is likely to have a minimum capacity of 2,00,000 units in its first phase. Sources indicate that this facility will primarily focus on producing electric vehicles based on the Electrified Modular Architecture (EMA) platform for both Jaguar Land Rover and Tata Motors.

According to industry insiders, the production capacity is planned to be divided, with approximately two-thirds allocated to Jaguar Land Rover and one-third to Tata Motors. A significant portion of the JLR output is likely to be designated for overseas markets, potentially leveraging the upcoming India-UK Free Trade Agreement (FTA) currently in progress.

The new manufacturing facility is part of a larger commitment by the Tata Group, which has pledged an investment of Rs 1.5 lakh crore in Jaguar Land Rover over the coming decade. This investment aligns with the group's strategy to transition Jaguar into an all-electric brand while ensuring that the majority of the Land Rover portfolio will have electric alternatives by 2026.

Industry experts suggest that this project could potentially involve the production of at least four models each from Tata Motors and Jaguar Land Rover over the next decade. The total volume is estimated to reach around 3,00,000 units, with a significant portion planned for export.

In a related development, Tata Passenger Electric Mobility Ltd and Jaguar Land Rover previously signed an MoU for the licensing of JLR's EMA platform. This agreement includes provisions for electrical architecture, electric drive units, battery packs, and manufacturing know-how, which will be crucial for the development of Tata's upcoming born-electric vehicles.

While Tata Motors has not officially commented on these speculations, the upcoming plant in Tamil Nadu is poised to play a critical role in India's electric vehicle manufacturing landscape. The project is expected to create around 25,000 to 30,000 jobs in the region, significantly boosting local employment.

As preparations for the September 28 ceremony continue, basic infrastructure work is already underway at the site. This proactive approach aims to ensure a smooth and timely execution of this transformative industrial venture, further cementing Tamil Nadu's position as a key manufacturing hub in India's rapidly evolving automotive sector.

Source: https://www.autocarindia.com/industr...mber-28-432866