[VigneshMC]

Looks like TN Government is questioning cars with olive color.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/.../109115279.cms

Not sure what government where they doing when they approved these cars and they were in sale by multiple manufacturer's for quite some time and now they are asking owners to repaint.

Requesting @mods for a new thread to discuss this.

[GTX+]

Originally Posted by VigneshMC

and now they are asking owners to repaint

The article doesn't say that TN government is asking owners to repaint. It mentions that if MoRTH asks KIA to cease production of cars with Pweiter Olive colour, then the existing owners may need to change their car's colour.

[Aditya]

Tamil Nadu stops registrations for olive green cars - Posts moved to a new thread.

[vijaythacker]

It would then apply to other manufacturers as well right who would also need to do the necessary changes and all the owners for this olive green shade vehicles. They can ask not to manufacturer any new vehicles but repainting the sold car is absurd.

[anjan_c2007]

The Rule 121 of the Central Motor Vehicles Rules (CMVR)1989 states:-

Rule 121.Painting of Motor Vehicles

(l) No motor vehicle including agricultural tractor and construction equipment vehicle shall be painted in olive green colour except those belonging to the Defence Department
(2) No contract carriage other than a tourist vehicle covered by permit under sub-section (9) of section 88 shall be painted in the manner specified in sub-rule (11) of rule 128.
(3) No goods carriage other than a goods carriage covered by national permit shall be painted in the manner specified in sub-rule (1) of rule 90.
(4) The body of quadricycle shall prominently carry a label ―Q in capital and Arial font in black or any contrasting colour in front and at the rear of vehicle and that the said label shall have suitable dimensions so that total display area is not less than 225 sq.cm.

Coming to Rule 121(1) this rule is too old but has seldom been invoked. We hence have seen so many car makers use and misuse this shade since decades and even repainted cars including the forest Safari vehicles and many more are seen in this shade. Trucks, tractors, two wheelers etc are also included. Now that TN State has invoked this rule, the OE's should learn their lesson. Any state can invoke this rule and its only a matter of time that it will manifest itself to inconvenience the respective owners.

In many sectors in desert areas, our defence forces use the olive green-brown-yellow camafluoge paint scheme for their vehicles, about which the CMVR 1989 is blissfully ignorant.

Only the <25 kmph speed two wheeler EV's and older ones like the Luna Wings and TVS Express are exempted as these are not registered by RTO's not falling under the Motor Vehicles Act 1988.

[shatananda.k]

What is the impact for folks visiting TN? How can they restrict the real life scenario only by banning registration?

And going ahead can any state define colors of their choice and implement similar rule

[rakesh_r]

I fail to understand, are we living in a country ruled by Dimwits? Sorry to say, and why should owners repaint their cars? The said vehicles on road have been certified by competent govt agencies before they are legally registered.
Tomorrow anybody can bring out any law and ban anything.

[vrprabhu]

If my memory is correct -

a. Almost all the Willys Jeeps were green in colour (the preferred form of transport in rural areas);

b. M800 brought out a special edition in this colour. It was given some additional moniker. Even (old) Gypsy used to come in this colour.

c. There were Opels, Cielos, Ford Ikons, Mitsubishi Lancers, with similar shades

May be there were others too.

Point is, weren't these manufacturers breaking the rules by painting the car with this colour despite being aware that it is not be sold to and registered by the public?

[Turbohead]

Originally Posted by rakesh_r

I fail to understand, are we living in a country ruled by Dimwits? Sorry to say, and why should owners repaint their cars? The said vehicles on road have been certified by competent govt agencies before they are legally registered.
Tomorrow anybody can bring out any law and ban anything.

Dimwit or not, you need to let the armed forces decide - they would be vulnerable if there truly is a security reason.

But on paper, it's the law. The parliament can make changes but it's rarely done - the finest example being the sunfilm ban because the rules prevented anyone from sticking anything on the windows and windscreen.

As for repainting the cars, the onus should be on the manufacturers since they broke the rules.

[nirmaljusdoit]

Most of the army areas have high security and it’s almost impossible for any unauthorised persons to gain access. The main guard at the gate will verify credentials if and the second level after the gate will stop you again and check. These guards are changed everyday as well. One may be stopped at any time and questioned too.

I fail to understand in what way a green coloured vehicle is a threat ?!

[rakesh_r]

Originally Posted by Turbohead

Dimwit or not, you need to let the armed forces decide - they would be vulnerable if there truly is a security reason.

But on paper, it's the law. The parliament can make changes but it's rarely done - the finest example being the sunfilm ban because the rules prevented anyone from sticking anything on the windows and windscreen.

As for repainting the cars, the onus should be on the manufacturers since they broke the rules.

Off course, the Armed Forces must decide, anything that threatens the security must be looked into.
If the manufacturers did bring out the paint schemes, why did the certifying agencies approve the said colours? Or the manufacturers are free to choose any colour of their choice? Am I missing something here?
I am okay with the govt enforcing a ban henceforth, but troubling the existing owners is something which i don't understand. Even if the manufacturer agrees to repaint the cars, will we get a factory finish quality?

PS: I own a green Gurkha, not Olive green for sure.

[Gaur]

something similar had happened in Mumbai many years back, the municipal corporation decided to paint their garbage trucks in olive green color which was objected by army.

https://mumbaimirror.indiatimes.com/...w/15715816.cms

[apache_aayush]

Originally Posted by rakesh_r

I fail to understand, are we living in a country ruled by Dimwits? Sorry to say, and why should owners repaint their cars?

Don't feel sorry while saying the obvious. Unfortunately we are being governed by dimwits. Their decisions have no pattern, are absolutely arbitrary with no logical reasoning.

[arjab]

Originally Posted by rakesh_r

If the manufacturers did bring out the paint schemes, why did the certifying agencies approve the said colours? Or the manufacturers are free to choose any colour of their choice? Am I missing something here?

I foresee a game of "cat and mouse" now being played out. OEM's will now harp on the "olive green" terminology to plead innocence. Because all the OEM's have "termed" their respective shades of green in some other descriptive words. ARAI will also plead innocence saying they are not at fault in issuing type approval certificates based on the same thing.

Originally Posted by rakesh_r

I am okay with the govt enforcing a ban henceforth, but troubling the existing owners is something which i don't understand. Even if the manufacturer agrees to repaint the cars, will we get a factory finish quality?

Owners can no way be held responsible until and unless they have purchased a vehicle in some other colour and then changed the paint to "Olive Green".
I also doubt the fact that the OEM will bear the cost of repaint. If push comes to shove they'll come to some half-baked solution of "partial compensation" or some equally creative terms and conditions. And if this happens one can be reasonably sure that the repaint will happen at the dealer end. It will be a simple spray painting job over the existing paint. They will not even scrape off the existing paint to the bare metal. Probably just sand-off the top coat. The workshop with the higher skilled worker will win the day.

To clear up the picture: The concerned authorities should first establish and publish clearly in the public domain the exact description of the "Olive Green" shade. It should be supported by the PANTONE number/code of that shade.
Then they should make it mandatory for the OEM to bear the "full cost of repaint", if the existing paint contravenes the requirements.

So, for the moment it seems driving a "pachh colour wandee" in TN may have its share of headaches.

[vshankarhere]

Guys, relax. TN Transport department has already released another press release last month end taking their earlier notice back. I had seen that. Will find it and post it. Registrations are happening as usual.