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Old 10th August 2023, 15:12   #31
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Re: Jeep in India | The Path Ahead

Being owner of Jeep Compass, here are my thoughts:
1) Best looking SUV (IMPO), a good product but certainly overpriced for what it offers.
2) Pathetic RSA support. Twice I had a very bad personal experience.
3) Goa with one of the densest JC owners were left stranded without a SC for over 5 months. Had to drive 170 kms to the nearest SC.
4) Pursued to be a luxury product, but when you visit the SC, it's time you will start questioning that. With new dealer and SC in place, hoping for a turn around.
5) Price cut of 2-3 lakhs and a good SC team and I am still game for JC again.
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Old 10th August 2023, 15:28   #32
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I recently drove the Tucson and loved every bit of it but unfortunately held back due to the badge scepticism in the family.
The Jeep Compass was next on the list but unfortunately have held back as soon as I heard about Jeep India withdrawing their petrol-powered engine from the compass.
The pricing too is above the roof, I feel Jeep India should be offering the Top model S atleast with the 4xe plug-in hybrid that they sell abroad since prices are already touching 40 Lakhs on the road in many cities!
The Renegade seems like a good car, there are several people that I know who aspire to own the compass but simply turn away due to its pricing. Jeep could simply introduce the Avenger and the Renegade to capture the lower segments!
As several others have mentioned in the forum, it would be great if they bring their 2.0-litre petrol engine, I’m sure that could help Jeep in significantly increasing their sales.
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Old 10th August 2023, 15:32   #33
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Voted Yes. It's such a unique product in India. In fact, it's the only manufacturer in its class here whose name feels odd when you call them a carmaker. They are not. Their vehicles are a class apart from the other 'cars'. Truly a standout vehicle class. I would still buy a Jeep for what it is. But alas! it deserves every inch of the position it finds itself in. Such disregard for the customer. Nothing more needs to be told about how incompetent they are, in terms of product planning or quality assurance. I can throw curses and abuses and wails and cries at Jeep, but still, I must admit, would love to own one for the keeps.
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Old 10th August 2023, 15:36   #34
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Voted Yes, The criteria for me is first engine performance, the comfort and then safety. Jeep ticks all the boxes.

About Engine - FIAT 2.0 liter is rock solid yes there is some lag in 9 speed gear box but it serves the purpose.
If performance is a non negotiable criteria for you then Mhawk and Mstallion are better performing than fiat multijet. Xuv700 'engine performance' wise is a better product.

Let's discard Mahindra for a moment and consider Harrier. Harrier is using Jeep's own multijet engine and somehow managed to get a better gearbox tuning than what Jeep achieved with their 9 speed gearbox.

Now people might say Mahindra and Tata aren't comparable to Jeep. Fine, let's consider Kodiaq with its petrol engine and Tuscon with it's diesel engine. What you get again are better performers.

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About comfort - This is the only car I could do 700+ Kms in a day without any fatigue. Also past 5 years ownership I did not had any issues (touchwood, I have heard some horrors but for Landmark Mumbai helped me very well)
Talking about comfort, cheaper cars than Compass i.e. XUV 700 and Harrier are more spacious and as difficult it might be for some folks to believe they are very comfortable. Both of these SUV/Crossovers can make a Mockery out of uneven roads.

I have done 1000+ kms in 1 day in my Harrier with me being the sole driver. I was comfortable. We undertook another trip in a XUV 700 where we had to travel from Delhi to Indore to Pune we did it in 2 days and weren't tired.

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About Safety - I have seen some accidents but not heard any casualty. Latest one I heard was on Samruddhi Highway and every one came out well with some injuries.

Also I feel the segment Jeep compass is niche.
Again, all the competing product be it XUV, Harrier, Tuscon , Kodiaq are well built and have active and passive safety features which in some case surpass what Jeep is providing or are at par.

The point I am trying to drive home is that yes, compass is a special and a great car and it's definitely a solid lifestyle product but there is a certain limit till which you can milk that image. Sport variant from Jeep is nearing 30 lacs on road and I completely fail to see why they are charging that amount for a that variant. As an enthusiast I definitely want more products from Jeep but the trajectory they are taking isn't helping them.

Majority of Indians don't really need or want a 4x4. A soft off roader or a RWD will make do as well. I mean mahindra went ahead and provided a RWD Thar for all intents and purposes. Tata diluted a brand like Safari. So there might be some business acumen involved.

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Old 10th August 2023, 16:30   #35
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Jeep sees red in most markets, difficult to resurrect unless it comes with fresh products and the missing BEV from its current line-up.

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Jeep global sales by model in 2022: Only the most recent launches saw increases during the year: the Wagoneer couple, the Commander for Brazil and India, and the Grand Cherokee L
- Jeep's potential fades away as it misses on new products launches, missed sales targets and EV's.

- Five of the six new products planned to be launched between 2018 and 2022 arrived after January 2021, and only one of the three promised BEVs arrived.

- The 1.11 million units sold by Jeep last year were the lowest level since 2014. The volume was down by 13% vs 2021. It was even lower than the total registered during the pandemic in 2020 at 1.23 million vehicles. Most of the reason is related to the product line up.

- Last year, a big part of its North American operations was dependent on an aged lineup.
These factors explain the 11% drop posted by Jeep in USA-Canada last year. These two markets represented 67% of its global volume.

Need of the hour:

If Stellantis wants Jeep to shine again it needs to introduce electric products. As the global demand of SUVs seems to be reaching a peak, the carmakers willing to keep an important role there must launch electric solutions. Five years ago everybody wanted an SUV. Today, everybody wants an SUV and many consumers are almost constrained to drive electric. The Tesla Model Y is already the world’s top selling passenger vehicle.

As an SUV brand, Jeep should take the leadership, at least in the West, and become a referent in the electric SUV segments. If it needs to reap success Jeep needs to introduce competitive products that feature the brand’s DNA and arrive on time in the global markets.

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Old 10th August 2023, 19:50   #36
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I’m very happy with Jeep compass. Will I buy another Jeep in future ? Definitely YES

I hope things will turn around when Jeep launches avenger in INDIA
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The problem with the Avenger is that it's 4084mm long. I'm not sure if some bumper adjustments can get it under 4m for India.

Maybe Jeep have a trick up their sleeve but they're just not as quick as Hyundai or Suzuki and getting these things done.

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Voted a No, even though I almost bought a Trailhawk last year. I thank my stars that I let my head prevail over my heart.
I agree with all the points mentioned the most notable of them being the lack of a petrol engine and not being enough value for money.
Plus the Compass is too small even for 5 people.
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Old 10th August 2023, 21:39   #39
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Jeep sees red in most markets, difficult to resurrect unless it comes with fresh products and the missing BEV from its current line-up.
Imagine being a SUV specialist brand and failing at a time when they are so in demand, that even Lamborghini and Ferrari have to come up with SUVs.

They're busy keeping a petty Roxor off the streets in the States and Mahindra milks the SUV craze in the meantime. Jeep Board has it's priorities straight.
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Old 10th August 2023, 21:43   #40
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Voted NO.

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Jeep is known all over the world for making strong and dependable off-road vehicles.
I don't think the word dependable is in Jeep's (or for that matter Chrysler's or Stellantis's) dictionary. They pretty much feature at the bottom of the comparison lists all the time. Especially their older cars like Compass and Wrangler. The new Grand Cherokee L has got good reviews, but its too new to tell if its reliable.

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- Fresh models. They need more cars!!!
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These factors explain the 11% drop posted by Jeep in USA-Canada last year. These two markets represented 67% of its global volume.
The main issue why Jeep is not successful in India is that they don't have mass market vehicles for the price category where our country shops (10-20 lakhs). Globally they only have 2 small vehicles, Renegade and Compass (both of them are around 10 years old and pretty bad compared to their competition). Their new ~4m EV Avenger is really built for Europe on an eCMP Peugeot platform, which they can bring to India, but I don't think that's going to change their fortunes.

If Jeep wants to be serious they need to start designing and building cars specifically for developed markets. They are not really present in any South East Asian country nor strong in South American markets (except Brazil). Jeep also closed its factory in China recently.

If Stellantis is serious about India the brand they need to bring here is Peugeot, who has smaller cars and generally considered reliable compared to their rest of the brand portfolio.
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Voted No for two reasons.

1. I do not trust Jeep as a brand to be present in India due to their apathy towards the market. It’s a one trick pony and an average one at that in terms of market performance.

2. The price of these vehicles is a big deterrent. I get it, it’s an enthusiast brand but even those need numbers to survive in market. The same problem plagues it’s sister brands too.

Jeep needs to seriously wake up and smell the coffee and it’s time for some pretty harsh actions including bringing Jeep, Citroen and other aspirational brands under one umbrella. Let there be atleast a decent presence in tier 1 and tier 2 cities. presence of these brands under one roof will also allow them to play in most segments vs just one or two separately. Give the customer a reason to visit your showroom rather than sit on the high horse of exclusivity.
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Not eligible to vote, but would have voted No. Unless they better equip the starting variants, I'll hold off on my purchase. I can live without Sunroof, Memory Seats, Powered Tailgate, etc but 6 Airbags and Fog lamps are non-negotiable for me on a car costing upward of 25L.

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Voted ‘No’

But my POV: 6 airbags are still considered a ‘luxury’ in India (the Jeep SA told me so many are not needed, 2 are enough ) but I can’t justify paying close to 28L for an ‘entry level’ Jeep which has only 2, or 30 for the next level Nighthawk, which again has only 2.. especially not when you’re claiming you are a ‘luxury SUV’ as they kept telling me in the showroom.
Exactly my thoughts. The SA had given me the same explanation on my visit to the showroom. I told him if they equip the Sport variant better, I would think of it as the erstwhile 2017-2019 Limited variant, with price value adjusted for inflation.
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Old 11th August 2023, 05:27   #43
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Jeep cannot succeed in India without help from Mahindra. They should drop their uppity sentiments.

Let Mahindra sell the Thar in foreign markets. What is it gonna compete against? The Renegade? It's not worth existing anyway. Let Thar take its place, with a Jeep badge. Imagine how many of those would sell.

In India, they should be doing what Triumph/KTM are doing with Bajaj.

The funny thing is, it's Mahindra that needs convincing here. And yet, it's Jeep that has a big irrational ego. We remember the ads. How do you feel now...
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Old 11th August 2023, 06:01   #44
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The problem with the Avenger is that it's 4084mm long. I'm not sure if some bumper adjustments can get it under 4m for India.

Maybe Jeep have a trick up their sleeve but they're just not as quick as Hyundai or Suzuki and getting these things done.
But they don't have to bring it under 4m if they launch BEV variant right? Petrol variant will anyways be competing in a very crowded segment
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Voted no-impossible to spend that much on a brand new car.
However, the only Jeep I'd actually consider is pre-owned for 15-17 lacs. This is the usual price bracket for the pseudo SUV crossovers. There's nothing that a competent FNG cannot mend and keep it in running order.
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