MORTH issues guidelines for DL, RC without chip or Smart card

ghodlur · 27th July 2023, 12:30

(Strangely) MORTH has issued guidelines to the State RTOs for issuing Driving License and Registration certification cards without any chip or smart card. it should be a laminated card for sure. Is this correct or am I interpreting it wrongly. If its true, why would the govt take up such a step?

If anyone has got their DL or RC recently can you confirm if the card is without any chip?

FrozeninTime · 27th July 2023, 16:58

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Originally Posted by ghodlur

If anyone has got their DL or RC recently can you confirm if the card is without any chip?

Recently our car’s RC was misplaced. The replacement RC had no chip but large QR code printed on it with details of vehicle ownership.

robincsamuel · 27th July 2023, 17:06

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Originally Posted by ghodlur

If anyone has got their DL or RC recently can you confirm if the card is without any chip?

Kerala MVD started printing PVC cards recently and I got my DL replaced. It's a PVC card without a chip. It has a QR code that points to the Parivahan website, showing the DL info.

Quoting a related post,

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Originally Posted by robincsamuel

It doesn't have a chip. It's a plastic card with a few security features like a hologram, microprinting, guilloche pattern, etc.

Do we actually need a smart card with a chip nowadays? Isn't a QR code sufficient? I think most devices can read a QR code easier than a chip.

Everlearner · 27th July 2023, 17:14

The relevance of physical cards is diminishing with things moving online. Even the govt has confirmed that digital copies of RC, DL, Insurance etc., are perfectly valid.

For Aadhar, there is no official physical card which you can call as original Aadhar card, its just a print of your Aadhar on paper or a PVC card, you can get as many printed as you like.

So, I believe this is in line with the overall trend of giving more prominence to digital channels. Having a chip in the card and calling it as original does not make much sense in today's online world.

On top of that, I'm not sure if the shortage or supply issues of chip cards are also a driving factor.

sumathindra · 27th July 2023, 18:09

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Originally Posted by ghodlur

(Strangely) MORTH has issued guidelines to the State RTOs for issuing Driving License and Registration certification cards without any chip or smart card. it should be a laminated card for sure. Is this correct or am I interpreting it wrongly. If its true, why would the govt take up such a step?

If anyone has got their DL or RC recently can you confirm if the card is without any chip?

I got my DL renewed and the card came in today. Its the same with the chip. I also got the fitness and RC done for my 15 year old Dio and the RC card is the same with the chip.

libranof1987 · 27th July 2023, 18:23

My application for DL renewal has been at the RTO for about a month now. And weirdly, stuck at the printing stage for two weeks. Weird because, when I'd applied for change of address a few years back, I received the new DL within two weeks. Processing: from scrutiny of docs -> approval -> printing -> dispatch, all happened within two days.

And now this. I might receive the newer format DL looks like.

Regarding whether the chip is necessary in the DL or RC: what role does the chip perform anyway? I assume cops run your details through the DL / reg. no., not by inserting the DL/RC card in their machine. Or did the Govt. intend the card to function like an all-in-one card by linking various services, and that it didn't take off (like the fames RFID in cars).

My only hope, and the doubt is not misplaced, is that cops don't question the authenticity of this format.

lejhoom · 27th July 2023, 21:38

When my wife’s licence was renewed recently from Kolkata, she got one that’s kind of a photocopy/print in A5 size paper. I was a bit perplexed. Since there was a QR code prominently displayed, I scanned it and then it took me to the Vaahan website where all details were shown correctly. I was suspecting some foul play initially. Now I’m relived.

ABHI_1512 · 27th July 2023, 23:11

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Originally Posted by lejhoom

When my wife’s licence was renewed recently from Kolkata, she got one that’s kind of a photocopy/print in A5 size paper. I was a bit perplexed. Since there was a QR code prominently displayed, I scanned it and then it took me to the Vaahan website where all details were shown correctly. I was suspecting some foul play initially. Now I’m relived.

All the RTO offices of Kolkata like Kasba, Alipore, Beltala, Behala etc have been issuing only the printouts of the licenses and registration (RC) since the Covid days. I got my License renewed during 2020 and its just a printout which has been laminated and which looks extremely flimsy. This is due to the cancellation of the contract with the vendor who was entrusted with the chip enabled smart cards. But now they have resorted back to the earlier smart cards with a new vendor since the start of June as per news reports. One can reapply and get a chip enabled smart card if one wishes. The details are anyways updated in the Vaahan website these days.

vamsi.vadrevu · 28th July 2023, 00:01

I recently took delivery of my Nissan Magnite in Hyderabad and the RC doesn't have chip. It merely has a QR code. Apparently, the vendors printing these still haven't resumed printing on chip cards. Instead they're just issuing chipless cards in Hyderabad.

hrman · 28th July 2023, 06:54

I got my RC card a couple of weeks ago for my car purchased on 1st March. It is the old chip type card.
But going by recent trends, having a chip enabled card doesn't really make much sense. The Digilocker online details are acceptable. Its not something you will use every day for transactions. Even PAN cards have been in simple PVC cards for may years.
Only point of concern is the cost of the non chip embedded cards. They will now charge Rs.200 more, God only knows why!

BoneCollector · 28th July 2023, 07:54

My cousin's licence was damaged (broken) from a corner so another one was needed. I checked with a known person at DTO who told me that the licence card can be issued in duplicate but for that, either the damaged card needs to be submitted along with the re-issuance fee (around Rs.500/-)or if the damaged card cannot be surrendered, then an FIR copy stating that it was lost needs to be submitted. I asked my cousin to send his licence and once it was received, went ahead with the re-issue of it. It took some time as the DTO had issues with cards and printer and ribbon and so on. Finally, when the card was received, it was one without a chip but a QR code. That got me worried if it was original or not. Thanks to this notification, I can safely assume that it's normal.

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Old damaged card with chip.

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Old damaged card with chip.

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New one without any chip.

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New one without any chip.

mpksuhas · 28th July 2023, 09:39

Apart from working like a mechanism to display that the card is original - almost like a hologram I would say, the chip was anyway not serving any purpose.

I haven't seen any police officer who stopped me ever checking my document using a chip reader. There was an article few years back in KA daily that the police was not having any equipment to check (read) the chip cards with them.

With the QR code system, atleast that issue is resolved to an extent.

RollinWheels · 28th July 2023, 10:42

I wanted to replace my current DL with the chipped one however when I booted up the parivahan site and tried to replace my DL, it showed there is an already existing application. Then I realized that I had raised an application to request for a duplicate DL because lost ago. Eventually I did get back that one so forgot about this request.

Now I am stuck because the site will not let me raise a request for replacement DL without completing the request for duplicate DL. I am thinking will just go ahead with duplicate DL because ultimately duplicate or replacement means the same thing.

pandabear · 28th July 2023, 11:00

I guess the chip shortage has just hit the rto now that old inventories have dried up. My DL looks so pathetic as its a non chip DL with faded ink as the printer ink was running low. I have been asked multiple times whether it is an original DL

priyankarb · 28th July 2023, 11:04

The inclusion of chips on the RC cards or driver's licenses appears to lack a practical purpose anyways. Throughout the many years I've held my DL or encountered various chip-based RCs, I have never witnessed a police officer utilizing a reader to verify the information. Thus, eliminating the chip seems like a reasonable decision. Nowadays, QR code readers are readily available on most cell phones, making it convenient to scan and verify authenticity if needed. As Everlearner pointed out, the shortage or supply issues of chips may be contributing to this workaround.

27th July 2023, 17:14	#4
Everlearner BHPian Join Date: Apr 2021 Location: Bangalore Posts: 227 Thanked: 979 Times	Re: MORTH issues guidelines for DL, RC without chip or Smart card The relevance of physical cards is diminishing with things moving online. Even the govt has confirmed that digital copies of RC, DL, Insurance etc., are perfectly valid. For Aadhar, there is no official physical card which you can call as original Aadhar card, its just a print of your Aadhar on paper or a PVC card, you can get as many printed as you like. So, I believe this is in line with the overall trend of giving more prominence to digital channels. Having a chip in the card and calling it as original does not make much sense in today's online world. On top of that, I'm not sure if the shortage or supply issues of chip cards are also a driving factor.
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27th July 2023, 18:23	#6
libranof1987 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: All over! Posts: 8,176 Thanked: 20,584 Times	Re: MORTH issues guidelines for DL, RC without chip or Smart card My application for DL renewal has been at the RTO for about a month now. And weirdly, stuck at the printing stage for two weeks. Weird because, when I'd applied for change of address a few years back, I received the new DL within two weeks. Processing: from scrutiny of docs -> approval -> printing -> dispatch, all happened within two days. And now this. I might receive the newer format DL looks like. Regarding whether the chip is necessary in the DL or RC: what role does the chip perform anyway? I assume cops run your details through the DL / reg. no., not by inserting the DL/RC card in their machine. Or did the Govt. intend the card to function like an all-in-one card by linking various services, and that it didn't take off (like the fames RFID in cars). My only hope, and the doubt is not misplaced, is that cops don't question the authenticity of this format.
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27th July 2023, 21:38	#7
lejhoom BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 407 Thanked: 257 Times	Re: MORTH issues guidelines for DL, RC without chip or Smart card When my wife’s licence was renewed recently from Kolkata, she got one that’s kind of a photocopy/print in A5 size paper. I was a bit perplexed. Since there was a QR code prominently displayed, I scanned it and then it took me to the Vaahan website where all details were shown correctly. I was suspecting some foul play initially. Now I’m relived.
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28th July 2023, 00:01	#9
vamsi.vadrevu BHPian Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 202 Thanked: 648 Times View My Garage	Re: MORTH issues guidelines for DL, RC without chip or Smart card I recently took delivery of my Nissan Magnite in Hyderabad and the RC doesn't have chip. It merely has a QR code. Apparently, the vendors printing these still haven't resumed printing on chip cards. Instead they're just issuing chipless cards in Hyderabad.
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28th July 2023, 06:54	#10
hrman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,155 Thanked: 1,104 Times	Re: MORTH issues guidelines for DL, RC without chip or Smart card I got my RC card a couple of weeks ago for my car purchased on 1st March. It is the old chip type card. But going by recent trends, having a chip enabled card doesn't really make much sense. The Digilocker online details are acceptable. Its not something you will use every day for transactions. Even PAN cards have been in simple PVC cards for may years. Only point of concern is the cost of the non chip embedded cards. They will now charge Rs.200 more, God only knows why!
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28th July 2023, 07:54	#11
BoneCollector Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: ..... Posts: 3,324 Thanked: 11,353 Times View My Garage	Re: MORTH issues guidelines for DL, RC without chip or Smart card My cousin's licence was damaged (broken) from a corner so another one was needed. I checked with a known person at DTO who told me that the licence card can be issued in duplicate but for that, either the damaged card needs to be submitted along with the re-issuance fee (around Rs.500/-)or if the damaged card cannot be surrendered, then an FIR copy stating that it was lost needs to be submitted. I asked my cousin to send his licence and once it was received, went ahead with the re-issue of it. It took some time as the DTO had issues with cards and printer and ribbon and so on. Finally, when the card was received, it was one without a chip but a QR code. That got me worried if it was original or not. Thanks to this notification, I can safely assume that it's normal. Old damaged card with chip. Old damaged card with chip. New one without any chip. New one without any chip. Last edited by BoneCollector : 28th July 2023 at 07:56.
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28th July 2023, 09:39	#12
mpksuhas Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: KA03/KL11 Posts: 4,146 Thanked: 8,403 Times View My Garage	Re: MORTH issues guidelines for DL, RC without chip or Smart card Apart from working like a mechanism to display that the card is original - almost like a hologram I would say, the chip was anyway not serving any purpose. I haven't seen any police officer who stopped me ever checking my document using a chip reader. There was an article few years back in KA daily that the police was not having any equipment to check (read) the chip cards with them. With the QR code system, atleast that issue is resolved to an extent.
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28th July 2023, 10:42	#13
RollinWheels BHPian Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: Kochi Posts: 37 Thanked: 51 Times	Re: MORTH issues guidelines for DL, RC without chip or Smart card I wanted to replace my current DL with the chipped one however when I booted up the parivahan site and tried to replace my DL, it showed there is an already existing application. Then I realized that I had raised an application to request for a duplicate DL because lost ago. Eventually I did get back that one so forgot about this request. Now I am stuck because the site will not let me raise a request for replacement DL without completing the request for duplicate DL. I am thinking will just go ahead with duplicate DL because ultimately duplicate or replacement means the same thing.
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28th July 2023, 11:00	#14
pandabear BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: TN38 Posts: 260 Thanked: 892 Times	Re: MORTH issues guidelines for DL, RC without chip or Smart card I guess the chip shortage has just hit the rto now that old inventories have dried up. My DL looks so pathetic as its a non chip DL with faded ink as the printer ink was running low. I have been asked multiple times whether it is an original DL
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28th July 2023, 11:04	#15
priyankarb BHPian Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: ML05-MH05-MH12 Posts: 28 Thanked: 33 Times	Re: MORTH issues guidelines for DL, RC without chip or Smart card The inclusion of chips on the RC cards or driver's licenses appears to lack a practical purpose anyways. Throughout the many years I've held my DL or encountered various chip-based RCs, I have never witnessed a police officer utilizing a reader to verify the information. Thus, eliminating the chip seems like a reasonable decision. Nowadays, QR code readers are readily available on most cell phones, making it convenient to scan and verify authenticity if needed. As Everlearner pointed out, the shortage or supply issues of chips may be contributing to this workaround.
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