[GoBabyGo]

Hi, have seen few videos of the initial impression about Curvv.EV. While I have not seen the Curvv EV in real, but from the video it appears to be Tata Nexon EV with modified rear & larger boot. Interior feel and space (except the steering) is almost like Nexon EV.

Now if MG price their Windsor EV less than Curvv EV, which I am sure they will, the interior space advantage of Windsor will definitely be challenging to Curvv EV.

I generally calculate EV range by reducing 35% to advertised range to make it realistic (100% to 15%), which make Curvv EV 45 maximum usable range of 325km and Curvv EV 55 usable range of 375km with conservative driving in good weather. To me Curvv.EV Accomplished 55 make better sense as it is priced very well and offers decent features.

The biggest challenge for Curvv.EV is very ordinary rear space, otherwise it is a fantastic product.

Little off topic, I still feel we need 40kW or 50kW small EVs at the size & price of Punch EV (MR & LR), which can realistically give range of 300km to 350km in real world, 100% to 15%). I am hopeful that Japanese &/or Koreans will make it possible in next 1.5 years with their Solid State Batteries.

[invidious]

Every time Tata launches a car - Nano, Harrier, Safari and now Curvv - I tend to get very excited at their engineering prowess. However, a few months later - tales of shoddy after sales service and consistent niggles dampen the enthusiasm. I hope I am proven wrong with the Curvv. I’ve never owned a Tata vehicle - I really wish to but I just prefer a fuss free ownership experience and am not prepared to play a game of roulette hoping I get one off the assembly line that is niggle free.

Back to the launch - looks slick to me - more well thought out than the Basalt which to be fair also has some decent features

[DRPSREDDY]

Originally Posted by sapien

My thoughts,
[list][*]Despite the new platform and the flexibility to go beyond 4m, how come Currv has so less space in the rear and poor under thigh support?
[*]Also, the battery pack is lying quite low with that 190mm suspension- isn’t it a safety risk?
[*]Interior mostly derived from Nexon, Harrier, Safari doesn’t feel very special anymore. And every-time I see that steering Older steerings were so classy.
........ Overall, this launch is a mixed bag and Currv is likely to be in a identity crisis

With the Curvv, Tata Motors has a well played game. Thought it looks like the Nexon, it definitely is a brand new car. They have tried to cut costs and placed it close to the Nexon, making it an elder cousin to it. The interior space is due to the short wheel base compared to its rivals and it can be forgiven as it will priced lower than the segment rivals. The actual competitor to the Segment rivals is the Sierra as you mentioned and this has been positioned an under cutter.

Nexon EV MAX too has 190mm ground clearance and it never scrapped once in my 2 years of ownership despite traveling rural areas. I don't think it is much of an issue, unless you plan to take it over the rocky hills.

Interiors will be mix and match as they have a pick from the pool of parts bin to cut costs.

Originally Posted by mukeshannamalai

While the Curvv EV offers a more accessible price point, the Atto 3 seems to have a clear edge in terms of build quality and battery technology. However, the long-term viability of BYD in the Indian market remains uncertain.

The Curvv's EV lower price tag is tempting especially the lower end, but the Atto 3's build and battery technology are hard to ignore. Unfortunately, i feel Tata should have given different front facing and not same as Punch and Nexon to bring the differentiation.

Which is sensible to pick, Atto3 (lower end) vs Curvv EV (Top end)?

Atto3 clearly costs 10-12L more than the Curvv and cannot expect it to be as good as the former. Otto3 is based on the Born EV or Skateboard architecture where as Curvv is a Gen2 car. So only Avinya brand of cars can take them head on. Curvv will be a seller as many don't want to test the Chinese brand due to lackluster sales and service network.

[46TheDoctor]

I was pretty excited for Curvv launch especially EV with the following expectations:

1. better rear seat space/comfort over Nexon.ev because of increased length and wheelbase

2. Increased range which will allow intercity travel without worries.

So, yesterday i checked out the car at showroom and returned disappointed because of lack of space and seating comfort on the rear seat which feels exactly like that in Nexon EV.

ICE will definitely have better under thigh support but it will still be like that of ICE Nexon and cant match these larger 4m+ SUVS. So the only practical advantage over Nexon will be proper AT boxes and advantages over korean/japanese cars will be Diesel AT and crash Safety.

The only advantages over Nexon.ev seem to be added range and boot space but nexon isnt lacking in boot space either.

So to conclude, i dont find Curvv worth the price for someone who is looking for a proper 4/5 seater vehicle, for a 2+2 seats usage it seems great feature packed car without any deficiencies.

[Krishnan83]

Originally Posted by 46TheDoctor

I was pretty excited for Curvv launch especially EV with the following expectations:

1. better rear seat space/comfort over Nexon.ev because of increased length and wheelbase

2. Increased range which will allow intercity travel without worries.

So, yesterday i checked out the car at showroom and returned disappointed because of lack of space and seating comfort on the rear seat which feels exactly like that in Nexon EV.

ICE will definitely have better under thigh support but it will still be like that of ICE Nexon and cant match these larger 4m+ SUVS. So the only practical advantage over Nexon will be proper AT boxes and advantages over korean/japanese cars will be Diesel AT and crash Safety.

The only advantages over Nexon.ev seem to be added range and boot space but nexon isnt lacking in boot space either.

So to conclude, i dont find Curvv worth the price for someone who is looking for a proper 4/5 seater vehicle, for a 2+2 seats usage it seems great feature packed car without any deficiencies.

I was waiting to check out Currv myself but thanks to your inputs looks like my teenagers won't be too happy with the backspace. We had taken a test drive of Creta and they liked the backspace; so this won't cut the ice looks like. If Nexon EV gets a major price cut, it will make more sense to go with that as there won't be any haters/lovers for its design vs Curvv.

[ferrarirules]

Originally Posted by volkman10

Tata Nexon will be the most hit in sales with the launch of Tata Curvv. Believe the segment leader in the mid-sized SUV will remain untouched.

Nexon Top Model is already selling at discount of Rs. 1.3 lakh so that brings it ex-showroom to 17.99 lakh which is overlapping with only one model of Curvv.EV. Please see the price list attached. According to me, they will soon make it the official ex-showroom price.

Based on their new price list they have reduced the price overlap between Tiago.EV, Punch.EV, Nexon.EV and Cruvv.EV to just the base model.

Finally my opinion on the competition, all of them are going to feel the heat whether it is Creta or Seltos or Hyryder or Grand Vitara or MG ZS EV

[TaurusSHO]

I don't believe this is an "all new" platform. In simple terms, this is a reworked Nexon, an evolution of the X1 platform with a different rear section and new sheet metal. The "Atlas" term sounds cool and is great for PR but I think people would've accepted it even if they went ahead and said this is based on the X1 platform.

It's the same case with Mahindra and Ford too. We all know the XUV700 is an evolution of the XUV500 and is based on the same platform. Same goes for the S650 Mustang which Ford says is "all new" but is actually a reworked S550 aka S550.5

[TheStoryweaver]

So, I visited the showroom and saw the Curvv.ev. On first impressions, the car looks good - design looks unique. About the interiors, I will say that they definitely look and feel premium. I sat in the Harrier after the Curvv and the Harrier interiors feel bland. The fit and finish in the Curvv were good. The doors had good heft to them.

The disappointment is that the floor is raised in the rear. It isn’t very comfortable for tall people on long commutes. I am 6'1" and in the rear I had enough headroom that on normal commutes I won’t brush my head, but on bad roads, there's definitely a chance I might.

Secondly, the gloss on the center console is a big no. It is scratch prone and shall definitely develop scratches with time.

Dealership expects test drive vehicles for the ICE version by 5th September post price reveal.

In conclusion, I am not disappointed. I need to take a test drive to clarify a few doubts regarding the steering wheel orientation and calibration, driveability in terms of suspension and ease of driving.

[Flash777]

Checked out the Curve today.

Design looks absolutely smashing, especially the Coupe rear. The fit and finish too seem better than Nexon. I found the rear seat spacing to be slightly better than Nexon though not by much. Extended Range is definitely a welcome addition.

Overall, it feels like a premium above Nexon in every way. Though it lacks outright rear seat space compared to Elevate/Creta, I feel it stacks up well in every Department and probably betters them in some places.

If Taigun/Kushaq with limited rear space can be direct rivals to Creta/Seltos in Mid-SUV segment, I don't see any reason why Curvv can't be in the race against them.

Also, Tata has cleverly priced it to be in between Nexon and Creta for the very same reason to still undercut the segment leaders. I am absolutely sure ICE Curvv Top end versions shall slightly undercut Creta Top end.

[rkv_hunter]

Tata have really given a VFM EV here given the 55kWH battery at a reasonable price. Compared to this the BYD Atto 50kwH battery car is at 24.99 although at a bigger body size and longer wheelbase, higher power and an ageing ZS EV is also in similar price bracket with lower range.

Only problem from my perspective is that it doesn’t look fresh externally as well as in interiors (not seen in person), has too many aspects from existing Tata cars (Nexon, Harrier, Punch etc)

They tried the coupe styling to stand out but the style is slightly bland for my personal taste.

Will be interesting how the Harrier EV turns out as it is an inherently good looking vehicle.

Also the MG Windsor with unconventional looks and extra space will give this a run for its money assuming similar prices.

[DRPSREDDY]

Originally Posted by TaurusSHO

I don't believe this is an "all new" platform. In simple terms, this is a reworked Nexon, an evolution of the X1 platform with a different rear section and new sheet metal. The "Atlas" term sounds cool and is great for PR but I think people would've accepted it even if they went ahead and said this is based on the X1 platform.

I can't agree with you. Designing a platform is not that easy and it involves a lot of complexities in today's age of embedded technology. It is not just the body structure but all the electrical engineering, software development and mechanical engineering with dynamics align with the platform.

Yes, it can be an evolution as all body structure design revolves around the structure where the force of impact is neutralized and keep the passengers and pedestrians safe. If you go back to the X1 architecture, it was not complicated. It was just body design then and involved around making the body light and stiff and they introduced tailor blank end weilding technology that was then lighter than the X0 platform of the Indica.

But as time progresses, metallurgy developed with high tensile strength steel and aluminium insert material to keep it lighter and agile. Along with that you can mix and match body styles by length, width and height and floor configurations and that is the flexibility that a modular design provides.

That was lacking in the X1 platform from where we got the coupe design of the Nexon and which Tata Motors claims to be an innovative design which trickled down from the Indica Vista. They could not derive multiple body styles from the X1 platform and hence they came up with the new one. Also listening to the speech of Mohan Savarkar who spoke about the ATLAS platform mentioned that the 18 inch wheel size was only possible due to the new architecture and both the old platforms, the X1 and AlfaArc could not provide it. That means AlfArc was seriously limiting their product onslaught and hence they had to get a 'brand new' platform. Anywhere did they not mention that it is an all new ground up platform. That means they got some basis for this one from the previous platforms.

TATA MOTORS ATLAS PLATFORM -AUTOCARPRO

[guptad42]

Originally Posted by invidious

Every time Tata launches a car - Nano, Harrier, Safari and now Curvv - I tend to get very excited at their engineering prowess. However, a few months later - tales of shoddy after sales service and consistent niggles dampen the enthusiasm. I hope I am proven wrong with the Curvv. I’ve never owned a Tata vehicle - I really wish to but I just prefer a fuss free ownership experience and am not prepared to play a game of roulette hoping I get one off the assembly line that is niggle free.

Back to the launch - looks slick to me - more well thought out than the Basalt which to be fair also has some decent features

Absolutely true!
We have fallen for tata cars twice in the family and regretted both times. I suspect they are far behind brands considered reliable (such as Toyota, Hyundai, Suzuki) in 4 major areas:

1. Quality Control in Vendor Development and Sourcing. All cars are assembled from parts sourced from a large number of suppliers, and Tata Motors has poor quality control on its vendors. It shows up in a range of defects in the final car.

2. Production quality, quality of mechanical assembly and fit. Panel gaps, rough edges, things falling out in the showroom or first 6 months are common even in Tata EVs. It could also be due to overambitious design not optimised for mass manufacturing, and poor vendor quality.

3. Electronics and software glitches. I thought moving to EVs will solve a major problem for Tata Motors as we don't have to deal with their noisy, unrefined engines and mechanical faults. But they are loading the cars with tons of features without the stringent quality standards for electronics, software and EV battery related tech. So, we frequently see many reports of battery, electronics and software glitches on Tata cars claimed to be tested for hundreds of thousands of kilometres. Are the testers not capturing these faults, or is the company simply ignoring to fix enough of them?

4. Service Quality at their workshops. A lot of problems reported by car owners are not even captured properly, as there is no culture to honestly accept feedback and diligently record it. It may be the reason Tata Motors doesn't seem to have a data driven approach to solve quality or service problems or electronics glitches. Despite promises, there is little visible progress in service quality. In contrast, where TaMo can capture data like driving data for EVs, each new generation of product has improved in areas like refinement and efficiency.

Tata Motors have a long history of creating innovative passenger car products, establishing new market segments, and then losing the market share to other carmakers who came after them and executed far better. One part of it was lack of frequent product updates, which they have fixed. The second big problem was product and service quality, which is still not competitive. They have a long way to go. As they separate passenger car and commercial vehicles business, perhaps they can also bring in some Toyota manufacturing partners to make and service cars designed by Tata Motors product people. Just think of the marketshare Tata Motors cars could win if they had hardly any glitches and were well serviced!

[vatsal_makadia]

Originally Posted by mukeshannamalai

While the Curvv EV offers a more accessible price point, the Atto 3 seems to have a clear edge in terms of build quality and battery technology. However, the long-term viability of BYD in the Indian market remains uncertain.

The Curvv's EV lower price tag is tempting especially the lower end, but the Atto 3's build and battery technology are hard to ignore. Unfortunately, i feel Tata should have given different front facing and not same as Punch and Nexon to bring the differentiation.

Which is sensible to pick, Atto3 (lower end) vs Curvv EV (Top end)?

I will keep it simple for you.
IMO,

If you can live with 80% perfect product packed with numerous gizmos which are prone to failure anytime, pick Curvv EV.

If you want near perfect product with all the necessary bells and whistles pick Atto 3.

[prakash_ajp]

A humble request to feel team-bhpians - can we please keep the complaints about Tata motors' service quality and niggles on their products to their respective threads? It's becoming difficult to dig for real information about the Curvv over the past two pages.

I find the car, especially when seen in light of the price, very compelling. I am not a fan of the Coupe design - never really liked any Coupe designs and this one is no exception. But then if the first-gen Nexon with its really weird style can garner so much success, the Curvv will be a nothing less than a blockbuster, especially the EV version. This one has a much bigger range and boot, two gripes people had with the Nexon EV.

[elevator]

Originally Posted by TheStoryweaver

So, I made a visit to the showroom and saw the Curvv.ev. And first impressions, the car looks good. Design looks unique. About interiors, i will add the interiors definitely look and feel premium. I sat in harrier post curvv and, harrier interiors feel bland.The fit and finish in curvv were good, The doors had good heft to them.

The disappointment is the floor is raised enough in the rear. It isn’t very comfortable for tall people in long commutes . I am 6’1 and in the rear i had headroom equivalent that in normal commute i won’t brush my head but in bad roads , definitely a chance i might.

Secondly, the gloss on the center console is a big no. It is scratch prone and shall definitely develop scratches with time.

Dealership expects test drive vehicles for ICE by the 5th sept post price reveal.

In conclusion, not disappointed. I need to take a test drive to confirm a few doubts, regarding the steering wheel orientation and calibration, drive-ability in terms of suspension and ease of drive.

Thanks, could you please confirm the color of the car, is it Pure Grey color?