[smilenow]

I am surprised that the Hyryder is doing only half the numbers of the Grand Vitara and yet on the ground, the waiting period of the strong hybrid Hyryder is 8 months in Delhi whereas for the Vitara it is 2 months.

The Korean Sub 4 meter twins i.e. Venue and Sonet are doing great at almost 20K combined sales per month.

However, what black magic was done with respect to the Carnival Sales?
Are the figures genuine?

[bullitt1]

Jeep sales falling by the month. With this trend, it may not be far when a combined sales of 400-500 units per month would be a dream.

[DicKy]

Is the Carnival numbers a result of Kia pushing the last inventory to the dealers?

Looking at the Ignis numbers, which is more than their newer Spresso and Celerio, can't help but wonder why Maruti is sitting on it without any updates. Even the decades old Ciaz got ESP and hill hold recently, what is stopping them from offering it in the Ignis??!!

[SaiSW]

Wow, is the Nexon really creating a separate brand image inside it's parent brand? Like City for Honda. The sales of most of their other models have fluctuated very much but the Nexon seems to have strong demand.

[Altrozed]

Nexon sales growing strong each and every month. With facelift due, it will cement it's position much stronger and deeper for sure. Nexon, how much ever public finds fault, it's now an Indica for SUVs. There is no looking back if Nexon is purchased.
With Aam Junta happy with AMT for it offers, Nexon itself is a brand now. Happy to see this growing.

Added to that what a SUV looks will help is Punch. enthusiast didn't like Engine, but public gladly welcomed it. One can do cruising all day in 90-110 range getting good mileage.

Despite having everything better when compared to Punch, Altroz doesn't command sales like Duo SUVs.
SUV looks does matter.

5600+ sales and in maintaining Average, it's a decent seller.

Tiago holding the forte is commendable.

[svmvale]

My car is due for a change next year, heart says Jeep Compass Diesel AT but head says VW Virtus GT AT or Honda City Hybrid.

But dis-heartening to see the sales numbers of both Jeep and VAG. Very scary. I look to own my next car for 8yrs or 180000 kms. What if they pull out of the market?

Taigun + Kushaq = 3,468 units
Creta + Seltos = 25,507 units

VAG twins have got 5-star rating against 3-star for the korean twins. And VAG have come up with a solid ASS and warranty package and yet the numbers don't seem to add up.

Is this down to only price?

[GoBabyGo]

Hello, Indian car scene is more or less same since last few years. I am surprised if management (Global as well as Indian) of Honda, Toyota, Skoda, Volkswagen is so dumb or ignorant about what's going on in Indian passenger vehicle market. They just can't see how Kia has managed to get little over 8% market share in such a short time. They can't even study Tata's failure to glory story.

Honda, Toyota, Skoda, Volkswagen have engine, products, design, experience, finances, production capacity, all they need is decision based on Indian buyer's aspirations and requirements. It is not a rocket science.

I strongly feel, if Honda, Toyota, Skoda, Volkswagen make efforts, we will see dramatic turnaround in their sales, just like Tata.

[one-77]

Originally Posted by svmvale

Is this down to only price?

I believe the lack of features and poorer quality interiors (vs the Koreans), the perceived inferior reliability (EPC, AC performance, mechatronics, to name a few), small street presence, perceived higher maintenance costs, unwillingness to honour warranty claims, fewer service centres, dealer monopoly, etc compound the heftier price tag in the eyes of the average customer. That’s why the Koreans are still able to get away with their structurally unsafe cars in the Indian market.

Considering the price tag and the sweet time they took to launch these cars, VAG should have proactively sorted these issues prior to launch, instead of reacting to the bad press they received.

[Knightrider]

Originally Posted by svmvale

VAG twins have got 5-star rating against 3-star for the korean twins. And VAG have come up with a solid ASS and warranty package and yet the numbers don't seem to add up.

Is this down to only price?

Common Indian buyers are very sensitive to the price and the value they get for it. VAG twins lack the road presence which is so important to Indian buyers. The features on offer and the interior quality of the Koreans is also better.

[07CR]

Massive decline for the Harrier and Safari sales (MOM as well as YOY). Is the general public finally catching up to how the cars are still half baked, or the competition solving their supply chain issues and the buyers moving to the competition? It could also be because of the new options like Hybrids, Hycross etc.

Originally Posted by svmvale

Taigun + Kushaq = 3,468 units
Creta + Seltos = 25,507 units

VAG twins have got 5-star rating against 3-star for the korean twins. And VAG have come up with a solid ASS and warranty package and yet the numbers don't seem to add up.

Is this down to only price?

IMO except the 5 star rating and a superior ride and handling balance, the VAG twins lack in many areas compared to the Korean twins. In terms of performance even the 1.4 Turbo petrol is very competent from the Koreans.

ASS, Reliability, DQ200 GB, Poor AC, smaller size, strict 4 seaters, poor interior quality, lack of diesel, lack of diesel AT, smaller dealer network, cheap cost cutting (like no power folding mirrors, I believe it's available again,) etc., lack of many usable features, lack of some blingy features as well. All these have a combined effect for the massive sales difference.

[Samegoodkid]

Sad to see Jazz being discontinued.
Have done close to 33 K in the last 5 years and have plans to keep it for 10 more years.

Hope Honda replaces it with a competent model. Honda definitely needs a blockbuster to sustain itself in India.

[sulliavi]

Scorpio-N seams to be a well sorted vehicle from Mahindra without any major niggles reported from owners. Its a new hot favorite among SUV buyers for sure and that shows in its increasing dispatch figures. M&M has winners in hands in the form of N, 700 and Thar

[KeepReading]

Surprised to see "A" segment having sales. I feel inventory clearance for the outgoing models for the new BS6 from April 2023.

[svmvale]

Originally Posted by one-77

I believe the lack of features and poorer quality interiors (vs the Koreans), the perceived inferior reliability (EPC, AC performance, mechatronics, to name a few), small street presence, perceived higher maintenance costs, unwillingness to honour warranty claims, fewer service centres, dealer monopoly, etc compound the heftier price tag in the eyes of the average customer. That’s why the Koreans are still able to get away with their structurally unsafe cars in the Indian market.

Considering the price tag and the sweet time they took to launch these cars, VAG should have proactively sorted these issues prior to launch, instead of reacting to the bad press they received.

You have used the word perceived a lot. I honestly feel it's the perception of the customers. I own a 6year old Vento TDi AT and done 125000 kms, god's forbid haven't faced any DSG issues. Have done preventive maintenance with my FNG @ 90k kms.

Interiors, Koreans are masters of blinging up their cars.

Originally Posted by Knightrider

Common Indian buyers are very sensitive to the price and the value they get for it. VAG twins lack the road presence which is so important to Indian buyers. The features on offer and the interior quality of the Koreans is also better.

I do agree, VAG twins look closer to Nexon size wise than the Korean twins.

Originally Posted by 07CR

IMO except the 5 star rating and a superior ride and handling balance, the VAG twins lack in many areas compared to the Korean twins. In terms of performance even the 1.4 Turbo petrol is very competent from the Koreans.

ASS, Reliability, DQ200 GB, Poor AC, smaller size, strict 4 seaters, poor interior quality, lack of diesel, lack of diesel AT, smaller dealer network, cheap cost cutting (like no power folding mirrors, I believe it's available again,) etc., lack of many usable features, lack of some blingy features as well. All these have a combined effect for the massive sales difference.

VAG's 1.5 DSG will smoke the Korean's 1.4L Turbo DCT. Further i know friends, whose Virtus 1.5L DSG is much more fuel efficient than another friend's Seltos 1.4 DCT. Both use in the same cycle.

Have come across numerous DQ200 related threads on this forum. Maybe enthusiasts don't buy the Korean DCTs and hence not in Team-Bhp.

Touch wood, DQ200 has been kind to me and my family. 6 Rapid & Vento are owned among first cousins. All of them done 80000 kms+ and no issues thus far.

Main problem is usage conditions. DQ200 has max torque rating of 250Nm. VW 1.5 TDi has max torque of 250 Nm. In dense stop-go city traffic, when you keep hitting peak torque often, it hurts the gearbox. Thankfully, all our cars are not used in dense traffic zones.

And i do agree on the much smaller dealer network of VAG.

[TusharK]

Vehicle retail sales up 14% in January 2022

According to the data released by the Federation of Automobile Dealers Associations (FADA), vehicle retail sales grew by 13.56% in January 2023, compared to the same month last year.



Overall sales for the month of January 2023 stood at 18,26,669 units, compared to 16,08,505 units in January 2022.



Tractor sales increased by 7.96%, from 67,764 units in January 2022 to 73,156 units last month.



Two-wheeler sales went up by 10.07% to 12,65,069 units from 11,49,351 units in January 2022.



Three-wheeler sales were up by 58.59% in January 2023. 65,796 units were sold, compared to 41,487 units in January 2022.



Passenger vehicle sales went up by 21.92% compared to the previous year. 3,40,220 units were sold last month, compared to 2,79,050 units in January 2022.

Commercial vehicle sales also increased by 16.34%. 82,428 units were sold in January 2023, compared to 70,853 units in the previous year.

With China’s factory activity once again gaining pace, global supplies of parts and semiconductors will see a recovery thus aiding better vehicle supplies and lower waiting periods in future. This will further fuel growth for the Passenger Vehicle category. The recent announcements in Budget 2023-24 are also expected to help aid the overall growth of automobile retails.

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