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Originally Posted by purohitanuj (Post 5478191)
Comparison of 5 Speed MT vs 4 Speed AT below:

Cruising at 100km/hr in 5 Speed MT

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Cruising at 100km/hr in 4 Speed AT

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4 Speed AT makes much more sense.

This is a bit concerning specially for those who are considering manual variants. I mean what is the purpose of using a 5 speed gearbox and tuning it so pathetically. In general more gears mean less strain on engine but here things are opposite. Engine will feel strained even at 90kmph forget about 100.
I am hoping for a properly tuned gearbox for Indian version of jimny as a lot of people here want an all rounder which can atleast cruise at 90-100kmph without much stress on the engine.

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Originally Posted by iamnvn (Post 5478356)
This is a bit concerning specially for those who are considering manual variants. I mean what is the purpose of using a 5 speed gearbox and tuning it so pathetically. In general more gears mean less strain on engine but here things are opposite. Engine will feel strained even at 90kmph forget about 100.
I am hoping for a properly tuned gearbox for Indian version of jimny as a lot of people here want an all rounder which can atleast cruise at 90-100kmph without much stress on the engine.

I do understand but highly unlikely that we will get any change in ratios. Jimny is already offered in international markets with much better higways and they are using this same gearbox with final drive ratio. On all youtube reviews, the MT is criticized for this short coming; still Suzuki has not done anything about it ; hard to think of a reason for Suzuki to do this now ( they skipped the 6 speed AT as well , but for other reasons )

My suggestion, book AT and later decide after driving the MT. MT is best for mountain residents where the 70-80km/hr is hardly breached. Anyone interested in doing highway runs should book AT and then shift the booking to MT after a long test drive.

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Originally Posted by volkman10 (Post 5478268)
Not sure on the monthly production capacity planned for Jimny but do not be surprised if Maruti pauses its bookings due to constraints, if the delivery period exceeds a year or so.

Link

I work in advertising and this is straight from the textbook.
1. Generate Hype
2. Spread FOMO
3. Manipulate supply and demand

Works everytime.

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Originally Posted by purohitanuj (Post 5478372)
MT is best for mountain residents where the 70-80km/hr is hardly breached..

The Narrow width and small footprint is perfect for those tight turns and hairpins up in the hills. The lightweight nature of the vehicle also means it wont put undue strain on the hand brake when parked on inclines. These dimensional traits are also very handy for crowded cities and makes for greater ease of parking.

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Originally Posted by purohitanuj (Post 5478191)
Comparison of 5 Speed MT vs 4 Speed AT below:

Cruising at 100km/hr in 5 Speed MT

Attachment 2407744

Cruising at 100km/hr in 4 Speed AT

Attachment 2407745

4 Speed AT makes much more sense.

From your screenshort, the 5 speed MT has a speedometer dial upto 140km/hr where as the 4 speed AT as a speedometer dail upto 180km/hr.

Is the 5 speed MT screen grab that of the Japanese Jimny varriant with a 660cc engine and 4 speed AT that of 1.5L Japanese Jimny Sierra?

The 5 door sold in india even the 5 speed MT version has 180km/hr speedometer, as does the 3 door version sold else where in the world with a 1.5L engine.

Jimny Accessories


I just hope the official accessories are not this expensive here:
https://shop.parks.uk.com/collection...present?page=1
:eek:

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Originally Posted by shibujp (Post 5478208)
I did it online too. A day later the dealer contacted me and said that to complete the booking they need all this information.

Did online here, selecting Bangalore dealership (Kalyani), and no calls so far.

A few questions for auto vs manual after reading a few writeups/ reviews.

Does the Jimny automatic have a crawl function since it uses torque converter.

"Top gear with the auto is a bit taller than the manual’s, so the fact it sits at a slightly lower rpm at highway speeds is one benefit of the auto"

Does it mean better fuel efficiency on highways?

" For off-road use, the auto variant comes into its own as its torque convertor gives a gearing advantage (and torque multiplication) for steep climbs, even if the manual’s crawl ratio is slightly lower."

Does it make automatic better in city traffic too?

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Originally Posted by aim120 (Post 5478400)
From your screenshort, the 5 speed MT has a speedometer dial upto 140km/hr where as the 4 speed AT as a speedometer dail upto 180km/hr.

Good catch! And I really hope that is the case. Some international reviews mention that MT is more drivable because of more gear ratios and even for highways recommend the MT.

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Originally Posted by aim120 (Post 5478400)
From your screenshort, the 5 speed MT has a speedometer dial upto 140km/hr where as the 4 speed AT as a speedometer dail upto 180km/hr.

Is the 5 speed MT screen grab that of the Japanese Jimny varriant with a 660cc engine and 4 speed AT that of 1.5L Japanese Jimny Sierra?

The 5 door sold in india even the 5 speed MT version has 180km/hr speedometer, as does the 3 door version sold else where in the world with a 1.5L engine.

Both videos are from the same YouTuber and same country. Not sure why this difference.

The below post also shows gear ratios of MT (shorter) and AT.
https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/india...ml#post5478186

Was trying the online booking option on MSILs website but have been getting the following error:
Due to some error occurred, we could not process your booking at the moment. Sorry for the inconvenience caused. Please try again in sometime.

Anyone else facing similar issues?
Thank you.

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Originally Posted by RijuC (Post 5477727)
This question is to "shankar.balan": Sir, was there any kind of ABS or metal chequered plate behind the 2nd row seats of 3 door Jimny? And our Indian 5 door Jimny 2nd row seats does not have such plate.

Does it have anything to do for hard core off-roading (in 3 door Jimny)? Is this any reinforcement? I guess Fiat Punto Evo had such metallic plates behind 2nd row seats.

Hi Riju
You can find pics of the 3 door Jimny on sgcarmart.

There is a chequered plate behind the 2nd row, and also at the back portion of the second row of seats itself.

However it is not metal, but hard plastic which scratches easily. People like me who are obsessed would probably get a boot mat.

Best regards.

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Originally Posted by aim120 (Post 5478400)
From your screenshort, the 5 speed MT has a speedometer dial upto 140km/hr where as the 4 speed AT as a speedometer dail upto 180km/hr.

Is the 5 speed MT screen grab that of the Japanese Jimny varriant with a 660cc engine and 4 speed AT that of 1.5L Japanese Jimny Sierra?

The 5 door sold in india even the 5 speed MT version has 180km/hr speedometer, as does the 3 door version sold else where in the world with a 1.5L engine.

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Originally Posted by purohitanuj (Post 5478444)
Both videos are from the same YouTuber and same country. Not sure why this difference.

The below post also shows gear ratios of MT (shorter) and AT.
https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/india...ml#post5478186

Replying to this thread since one of my posts is linked...

@aim120 Yes as you correctly guessed the 140Kph speedo is from the 660cc Turbo Jimny. The speedometer shot is not from the 1.5 MT Jimny. Difference of ~ 750RPM is too huge a difference for a difference of just 0.134 in total gearing between AT & MT.

The actual difference in RPM@100KpH between 1.5MT and 1.5AT Jimny would be far lesser at about ~100/200RPM at the most theoretically!

PS: Theoretically since the AT has viscous coupling and the TC needs to lock up without slip.

Edit:
Jimny 1.5 MT @ 100Km/H
Maruti Jimny 4-door @ Auto Expo 2023-jimny_mt_100kph.png
Src: youtube deX2YOrhfrA

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Originally Posted by Knightrider (Post 5478179)
The Zeta variant will be getting R15 Steel rims. Will this be the steel wheel design here in India?

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This is as per the Suzuki genuine accessories available outside India.

The accessories brochure is attached here: Attachment 2407738

Thanks for the PDF

I noticed our Jimny will have 4 sensors from Company and also the option of Rain Sensor Add on is great.

Those part no. Will really help

Brazil model company Snorkel part no. Is what is needed now

It seems Maruti will be playing optimistically safe with Jimny pricing. Since there are only Zeta and Alpha variants at launch time so premium pricing is expected.
However, they may follow any of the two strategies:

1. Launch at an introductory low price and gradually increase the price. Later launch Sigma and Delta variants at lower price points (w.r.t. increased Zeta variant prices by then) to maintain sales volume.

2. Launch at a premium price then wait and watch.
2a. If sales numbers are good then don't bother to launch lower variants and focus on brand value and exclusivity.
2b. If sales are low due to premium (over optimistic) pricing, then launch no frills Sigma or low frills delta variant.

Due to Nexa badging, I feel they will follow path no 2..


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