No inspection of new vehicles for first-time registration, says Bangalore RTO

ashwin.terminat · 26th October 2021, 18:29

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This comes after changes to Motor Vehicles Act, 1988

In the wake of amendments to rules of the Motor Vehicles Act, 1988, the Transport Department has said that there is no need for physical inspection of new vehicles for a first-time registration.

In a press release, the department has said that a system has been brought in to register fully built vehicles purchased through authorised dealers without taking new vehicles to the RTOs and being inspected by the vehicle inspectors.

The release states that dealers can file an online application on Vahan-4 portal and pay applicable fee and taxes to the RTOs concerned.

After receiving the applications online, the officials concerned give approval for registration and the registration number gets allotted online itself.

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I checked the Vahan website but cannot see the option to register a new vehicle for KA-03 (Maybe there is a separate login for dealers?). If this news is true (and already implemented), it could mean we could negotiate with dealers to waive off "RTO Fees" and other such nonsense they charge claiming it is to bribe the RTO officials.

Raghu M · 26th October 2021, 19:27

Makes perfect sense actually. If this is true, all RTOs should follow. If there are any faults, the company/dealer should be held accountable. I don't see any reason how a chassis no. can be different than stated in the bill. Multiple sources check it and it ought to be error free. After all, you get insurance based on that as the vehicle is not even registered by then.

gkveda · 26th October 2021, 19:36

Good move towards creating a bribeless RTO. I wish they would continue this and extend to allow online registration by customers themselves after producing sales invoice directly without taking the vehicle to RTO.(Not sure if this is really feasible) This will prevent

1. Dealers from asking "PROCESSING FEE" in the name of bribe without bills and exploiting car owners.

2. Dealers from running the car for 100s of kms prior to delivery in the name of RTO Visit and cheating customers. At least customers can demand 100% new car.

3. Last but not least, customers can ask for acknowledgement id and get to know the status of registration immediately after payment. This will help customers from waiting in dark with out car on hand after payment

condor · 26th October 2021, 19:40

Good move. A brand new vehicle is by default in factory condition, and no checks are actually necessary.

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Originally Posted by gkveda

1. Dealers from asking "PROCESSING FEE" in the name of bribe without bills and exploiting car owners.

2. Dealers from running the car for 100s of kms prior to delivery in the name of RTO Visit and cheating customers. At least customers can demand 100% new car.

Dealers are not going to give up anything that can get them a few more rupees.

Also, a brand new car cant happen, since the cars are driven at least from the dealer's yard to showroom. Most dealers have their yards out side city limits. And in case of vehicles like Force Cruiser, Force Traveller - these are driven down from the factory to the respective city. Not that this category of customers will complain. Their running in is done most of the time, and they get one oil change before delivery.

Vysakh · 27th October 2021, 10:20

Can dealers fit the HSRP?

aargee · 27th October 2021, 10:47

We've already seen what happens with existing approach. My only concern being corrupt dealers registering ghost vehicles while still extorting customers under the blanket of RTO corruption.

KA18 · 27th October 2021, 23:33

This process still needs approval of the RTO officer.

We all know that they are busy and they do us a favour by approving applications and naturally we need to reciprocate the favour, right?

As long as a Government official has a say in approving applications, things don't move easily.

One of my business involves online government applications and I have seen how these systems work.

Aviator_guy · 28th October 2021, 13:17

I am little confused here. I got delivery of brand new Creta and the car never went out of dealer's storage area for RTO. Dealer mentioned that cars need not go to RTO physically and they only need imprint of the vehical chassis/engine number to share with the RTO. I checked the car km reading and it indeed never went out of the Showroom ( it was at 6km at PDI and at the time of final delivery to me). So not sure what this news about not needing physical inspection for new car. Does it depend on dealer/RTO/state?

ramnaresh_2000 · 28th October 2021, 18:03

I think this is a good move to eliminate "RTO Processing Fees" charged by dealers and will be a blow to all RTO agents.

Having said that, the stealerships will come up with more innovative ideas to make money. Even before this rule RTO officials never checked/verified chasis number in my cars or bikes. They just sit on their chair under the tent and ask the agent to shout out the chasis number for "verification". Never had I seen an official physically verifying chasis or engine number on any vehicle.

26th October 2021, 19:27	#2
Raghu M Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: Hyderbad Posts: 1,050 Thanked: 3,699 Times	Re: No inspection of new vehicles for first-time registration, says Bangalore RTO Makes perfect sense actually. If this is true, all RTOs should follow. If there are any faults, the company/dealer should be held accountable. I don't see any reason how a chassis no. can be different than stated in the bill. Multiple sources check it and it ought to be error free. After all, you get insurance based on that as the vehicle is not even registered by then.
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26th October 2021, 19:36	#3
gkveda Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,151 Thanked: 4,741 Times	Re: No inspection of new vehicles for first-time registration, says Bangalore RTO Good move towards creating a bribeless RTO. I wish they would continue this and extend to allow online registration by customers themselves after producing sales invoice directly without taking the vehicle to RTO.(Not sure if this is really feasible) This will prevent 1. Dealers from asking "PROCESSING FEE" in the name of bribe without bills and exploiting car owners. 2. Dealers from running the car for 100s of kms prior to delivery in the name of RTO Visit and cheating customers. At least customers can demand 100% new car. 3. Last but not least, customers can ask for acknowledgement id and get to know the status of registration immediately after payment. This will help customers from waiting in dark with out car on hand after payment Last edited by gkveda : 26th October 2021 at 19:44.
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27th October 2021, 10:20	#5
Vysakh BHPian Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Bangalore Posts: 205 Thanked: 212 Times	Re: No inspection of new vehicles for first-time registration, says Bangalore RTO Can dealers fit the HSRP?
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27th October 2021, 10:47	#6
aargee Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: TSTN Posts: 6,278 Thanked: 9,822 Times	Re: No inspection of new vehicles for first-time registration, says Bangalore RTO We've already seen what happens with existing approach. My only concern being corrupt dealers registering ghost vehicles while still extorting customers under the blanket of RTO corruption.
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27th October 2021, 23:33	#7
KA18 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Chikmagalur Posts: 291 Thanked: 312 Times View My Garage	Re: No inspection of new vehicles for first-time registration, says Bangalore RTO This process still needs approval of the RTO officer. We all know that they are busy and they do us a favour by approving applications and naturally we need to reciprocate the favour, right? As long as a Government official has a say in approving applications, things don't move easily. One of my business involves online government applications and I have seen how these systems work.
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28th October 2021, 13:17	#8
Aviator_guy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,303 Thanked: 1,560 Times	Re: No inspection of new vehicles for first-time registration, says Bangalore RTO I am little confused here. I got delivery of brand new Creta and the car never went out of dealer's storage area for RTO. Dealer mentioned that cars need not go to RTO physically and they only need imprint of the vehical chassis/engine number to share with the RTO. I checked the car km reading and it indeed never went out of the Showroom ( it was at 6km at PDI and at the time of final delivery to me). So not sure what this news about not needing physical inspection for new car. Does it depend on dealer/RTO/state?
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28th October 2021, 18:03	#9
ramnaresh_2000 BHPian Join Date: May 2017 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 805 Thanked: 2,945 Times View My Garage	Re: No inspection of new vehicles for first-time registration, says Bangalore RTO I think this is a good move to eliminate "RTO Processing Fees" charged by dealers and will be a blow to all RTO agents. Having said that, the stealerships will come up with more innovative ideas to make money. Even before this rule RTO officials never checked/verified chasis number in my cars or bikes. They just sit on their chair under the tent and ask the agent to shout out the chasis number for "verification". Never had I seen an official physically verifying chasis or engine number on any vehicle.
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