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Old 28th October 2022, 20:35   #766
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Re: New "BH" series registration | For cars getting transferred from one state to another

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Hi. I live in MH. If I buy an out of state used vehicle (e.g from Karnataka with KA plate), at the time of transfer to my name to my MH address, can I convert it to BH and therefore avoid paying high MH duties but instead paying the BH based duties? Not sure how it works since its lifetime tax is already paid BUT for KA and not MH.

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Please refer my post in the previous page of this same thread. MorTH has announced the conversion of regular registration to BH of used vehicles. However I am not sure whether it is/will be enabled by the state bureaucracy. Most likely not.
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Old 31st October 2022, 20:43   #767
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Re: New "BH" series registration | For cars getting transferred from one state to another

I have applied for BH for my new car from the Noida RTO. Dealer says it will take few days before it is done. The vehicle currently has a temporary registration.

I am worried that my application may get rejected but lets see. I work for an organization which has offices in 8 states. However, I stay in Noida and my official base location is Gurgaon, which is mentioned in the letter. My organization does have an office in Noida as well, however I am a Gurgaon employee. Hope the RTO takes into consideration that NCR residents can work at an office in the any of the 24 cities under NCR.

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Old 31st October 2022, 22:40   #768
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Karnataka : Private sector staff head to other states to pick up BH registration vehicles. Sad state of affair in Karnataka

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Re: New "BH" series registration | For cars getting transferred from one state to another

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Karnataka : Private sector staff head to other states to pick up BH registration vehicles. Sad state of affair in Karnataka

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Inevitable outcome! I will certainly do the same for our next new car. Serves the GoKA right.
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Re: New "BH" series registration | For cars getting transferred from one state to another

It'll be interesting to see how resale of different aged BH vehicles plays out over the next few years. I'm keen to see that as well.

Overall, I suspect this has more advantages than disadvantages. Opens up resale to BH compliant buyers across India. Even for non BH buyers, the cost of bearing the transferred registration if they are in a "low registration cost" state should hopefully not create a prohibitive cost at the time of purchase. Happy to hear other other's thoughts also on this.

I'm watching this space closely and for certain products, certainly the cost delta is quite attractive. For instance, CBU bikes which attract 20% (+) registration charges as opposed to certain CKDs which attract 12%.
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Re: New "BH" series registration | For cars getting transferred from one state to another

Will the BH registration work for company leased car? My employer has offices in enough states to satisfy the requirement for BH series for private sector employees. Shouldn't that be an eligibility to get BH mark for a company leased car?

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Karnataka : Private sector staff head to other states to pick up BH registration vehicles. Sad state of affair in Karnataka
Interesting, what are the pre-requisites here? Does one need to have a residential address in the other state (or) can one use his/her residential address in Bangalore for this process?

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Will the BH registration work for company leased car? My employer has offices in enough states to satisfy the requirement for BH series for private sector employees. Shouldn't that be an eligibility to get BH mark for a company leased car?


Interesting, what are the pre-requisites here? Does one need to have a residential address in the other state (or) can one use his/her residential address in Bangalore for this process?
AFAIK BH registration is for private registration and not company registration.

Latest draft notification by MorTH which overcomes the Smart Alecs of Karnataka below. Full details in the previous page.

The draft notification issued by MoRTH said, " Provided that application for registration of vehicle under BH series, opted voluntarily by the vehicle owner, shall be made to any registering authority of the state, in which the vehicle owner has either permanent residence or place of work and the registration mark shall be generated randomly through the portal after verification of working certificate in Form 60 or Official identity card, as the case may be, by the registering authority."
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Not sure if this query has been addressed earlier, but is the payable road tax constant for the remaining 15 years?

For ex: If one pays Rs 20k Road tax for first two years, will he be required to pay the same 20k Road tax for year 13 and 14?

Asking this since as per standard state registration, the payable road tax decreases every year as the car gets older.
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Re: New "BH" series registration | For cars getting transferred from one state to another

I work in a CAB (Central Autonomous Bodies).

Purchased Triber RXZ in June 2022. Got BH number from Vasant Vihar through dealer.

Purchased XL6 Alpha+ in July 2022. Got BH number from Mall Road theough broker. This rto called me to get convinced BH criteria. Agreed and done it.

There is some confusion/arbitrariness in value (not much) of BH taxable amount.
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I heard from a relative yesterday that BH registration is possible for private sector employees in Bangalore.

Has anyone tried and been successful with this? I see the official notification from August only mentioning banks and government officials.
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I'm from Trivandrum, Kerala. I just spoke to the helpline number given on Kerala MVD site, 0471-2335523 and asked them about BH registration. The last couple of times, I was given the reply that the State had not started it yet.

This time however, they informed me that the BH registration facility was available to Government employees and Private concerns with offices in more than 4 states. I asked if they could confirm that the facility was open and they said that it was open and could be done through the Parivahan site.

Has anyone got their BH registration done in Kerala? I have not received any updates regarding my vehicle booking and can't avail the option yet.
I am also looking for someone who could register under BH series in Kerala . Especially after the high court order
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Will the BH registration work for company leased car? My employer has offices in enough states to satisfy the requirement for BH series for private sector employees. Shouldn't that be an eligibility to get BH mark for a company leased car?
I understand the company lease car will in your name, and fleet operator (such as Orix) is mentioned as leasor . In such scenario, BH registration is very much possible, provided employer agrees for such setup in the master agreement with fleet operator.

Only operational challenge is , who will track and ensure payment of road tax two year down the line.
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Re: New "BH" series registration | For cars getting transferred from one state to another

Regarding Karnataka Govt excluded private employees from BH registration, can’t we collectively do something to convince the government to allow us to avail the benefit as stipulated by central government scheme?

Following are the points in our favour to convince the govt –

1. Kerala govt could not stop the BH registration and it is enabled through high court order (Kerala HC okays registering vehicles under new BH series- The New Indian Express). Many other states including opposition states providing full BH registration capability like West Bengal, Bihar and other states like Telengana will also roll out the facility soon.

2. Karnataka govt/RTO argument on difficulty in catching BH registration violation is not tenable. Since car road tax needs to be paid every two years, periodic verification including resubmission of Form-60 (if it is already not mandated, it can be made a requirement) will address this issue. Even today many outstation cars are plying in Karnataka, which is even more difficult to catch if they are in Karnataka for more than a year or not; but through online check, BH registration violations can be avoided.

3. RTO argument on losing revenue is discriminatory, as it is ok to lose revenue for govt officials but not for private employees. This may not hold good in rule of law.

4. Karnataka RTO is inefficient and corrupt. There is large number of backlogs on RC related applications (Karnataka: Transport department officials in slumber, 1.7 lakh applications pending on Vahan portal | Bengaluru News - Times of India (indiatimes.com)). By allowing central govt controlled BH registration, a big chunk of loads can be shifted out of KA RTO. Even at individual levels, we can cite our own examples. My RC renewal application is pending for three months because I didn’t pay bribe. My DL renewal was stuck in backlog entry update, and was done after one month after paying bribe as I had no option as my license was about to expire.

5. Karnataka order is discriminatory to native Kannadiga population as well. Non-native residents of Karnataka/Bengaluru are getting the BH registration done from their native states; but local population have no such option as they do not have permanent address in another state.

6. Finally a soft appeal to Karnataka govt (not a legal argument), as part of “double engine government”, it is desirable that state govt pass the benefits available from central govt scheme spontaneously to citizens than hindering it.

Now regarding the actions that could be taken, I think we have two main options, we can try either or both –
1. Legal route: As aggrieved party to Govt discrimination, file a PIL to high court.
2. Peaceful demonstration: Silent protest in front of RTO commissioner office, prominent RTO offices in Bengaluru with banners/placards clearly expressing our demands.

Please let me know what BHPians think about this?

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Re: New "BH" series registration | For cars getting transferred from one state to another

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Not sure if this query has been addressed earlier, but is the payable road tax constant for the remaining 15 years?

For ex: If one pays Rs 20k Road tax for first two years, will he be required to pay the same 20k Road tax for year 13 and 14?

Asking this since as per standard state registration, the payable road tax decreases every year as the car gets older.
The tax will remain same for every multiple of 2 years.

So year 1+year 2 will be same as Year 13+year 14

Most places take the road tax for full 15 years. How can the tax go down every year?
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The tax will remain same for every multiple of 2 years.

So year 1+year 2 will be same as Year 13+year 14

Most places take the road tax for full 15 years. How can the tax go down every year?
While its true that you pay tax for 15 years, this tax takes into account your car age for all 15 years i.e tax is calculated differently for every year and the value summed up in the end is what we pay for 15 years.

Also if you wish to transfer registration to another state, the road tax varies based on car age.

Ref: https://www.godigit.com/road-tax/maharashtra-road-tax

In case of BH, was hoping the tax would reduce over time - that would have made BH registration more promising!
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