[bullitt1]

Originally Posted by Samrat

A friend of mine has taken BH registration at Goa on a Tata Nexon towards mid of last month.

Since he was an employee of a private organisation, he had to get the Form 60 which his organisation provided.

Good to know that registrations are happening. Could you check with your friend if the process is similar to one posted by @mAndArk or is it left to the interpretation of the individual rto.

[sauravm_89]

<Super psyched as I write this>
So after a lot of sweat, tears and running around, I finally got a BH registration number plate! (State: New Delhi)

The Background: In April this year, me and my wife both moved to jobs that had base locations as Bangalore (much to our chagrin - we both just love Delhi, but the things you got to do for your career ).

However, the 2nd wave and all the Covid-19 chaos meant WFH prevailed and we still have another 2-3 months before we move. In the meantime, I kept reading horror stories of worthless Bangalore cops greasing their palms at the cost of hapless civilians with out-of-state number plates- and my trusty DL registered i20 Active was also now 5 years+ - all of which led to the decision that we got to sell the i20 off and then buy something post our movement to Bangalore.

Amidst all this, the notification on BH series came out in end-August and I was overjoyed - no longer paying hefty taxes and lugging a KA number plate for the next X years! Add to that the fact that my home state is Odisha, which embraced the rule with open arms, and my road ahead was clear - get a car right now with a BH series registration and move to Bangalore.

While the car selection-delivery is another story for another thread, the TL : DR version is that of all our choices. We booked the Kia Seltos X-Line in end-November and got the allotment in a record 10 days! Dealer agreed to help with BH registration, although they had little knowledge. So all of last week, I scrambled to get the BH number plate allotted - I was clear to the dealer that I will take ONLY BH registration, and no nonsense please!

Luckily the dealer (Lohia KIA) / SA turned out to be very patient and cooperative and I started talking to their RTO fellow directly. Registration was to be in my wife's name - my wife, being the employee of a tech major (Cogni), got the Form 60 quite easily (they have been serving a lot of requests it seems) - but this is where it got difficult.

My agent came back to me saying that Form 60 is not sufficient as per the concerned RTO NLO- I need to provide GST-numbers and the linked addresses and a copy of the original I-Card. Here's the clincher - the RTO said that this isn't for the "average" private employee, but for senior VP / Director posts. So I will have to pay a "brokerage" fee of 5k to get it done.

Anyways, since the benefits outweighed the cost and I wanted to get this done ASP, I got the Form 60 annexure on addresses changed (Googled GST numbers and updated the form), got a physical I-Card copy, and thankfully, wife's HR got the revised letter signed fast. But now, the NLO demanded a "GST Certificate" from the organisation - a rather silly ask, given no company will share the GST certificate that easily. However, this is where I put my foot down and asked the agent to clearly say that this is harassment and no organisation will provide such a document. Statewise GST numbers with addresses are publicly verifiable and enough proof!

The agent renegotiated ahead, and thankfully agreed to submit the file with the current set of documents (Form 60, list of GST numbers and registered place of business in 4 states, I-Card copy, Delhi address proof - Aadhaar, current salary slip), assuring me that this would most likely go through.

While clearing the final payments, I had to refer to the Morth advisory and calculate the tax myself for the dealer (10% on the ex-showroom, including tax). It turned out that the disclaimer with the tax amount from the RTO had the exact same amount, so my calculations were correct. Once tax payment was done and the file was submitted (this Tuesday), it took a stressful, nail-biting 2 days for the file to move and the BH number was finally allotted on Thursday. The number plate and the RC came on the same day itself.

Now, all that remains is for me is to take delivery of the car today afternoon. Pics after that hopefully

[vikramk]

Originally Posted by sauravm_89

<Super psyched as i write this>
So after a lot of sweat, tears and running around, i finally got a BH registration number plate! (State: New Delhi)

However, the 2nd wave and all the COVID Chaos meant WFH prevailed and we still have another 2-3 months before we move. In the meantime, I kept reading horror stories of worthless Bangalore cops greasing their palms at the cost of hapless civilians with out-of-state number plates- and my trusty DL registered- i20 active was also now 5yrs+- all of which led to the decision that we got to sell the i20 off and then buy something post our movement to Bangalore.

We can do without this kind of hate mongering on this platform.

[superchamp]

Originally Posted by sauravm_89

<Super psyched as i write this>
So after a lot of sweat, tears and running around, i finally got a BH registration number plate! (State: New Delhi)

Congrats on getting your BH Number plate

Originally Posted by sauravm_89

However, the 2nd wave and all the COVID Chaos meant WFH prevailed and we still have another 2-3 months before we move. In the meantime, I kept reading horror stories of worthless Bangalore cops greasing their palms at the cost of hapless civilians with out-of-state number plates- and my trusty DL registered- i20 active was also now 5yrs+- all of which led to the decision that we got to sell the i20 off and then buy something post our movement to Bangalore.

You have got a huge misunderstanding or have been misinformed. There is not much special treatment from the cops in Bangalore to other state registration. They don't take bribe or harass you if all your papers are in order. I have been using my KL registration cars in Bangalore for the past 6 years and haven't been harassed unnecessarily till date.
Hope this clarifies..

[Sidban85]

Got from Jeep dealer Banglore:

*BH SERIES*
Additional documents for BH Series Registration
1) For Central government employees
Present working ID Card
Along with service certificate
2) private/ Individual Person
a) Form 60 [Rule 47 (1)] In company letterhead
(Subject and matter should be as per Form 60 in letter head)
b) once letter head(Form 60) is ready it should be scanned and E-Mail to concern RTO's from Customer Companies E-mail ID, (for confirmation)
Original should be attached to registering file for RTO,
c) Company ID Card
KA03 RTO E-Mail ID is
rtobnge-ka@nic.in

[sauravm_89]

Originally Posted by superchamp

Congrats on getting your BH Number plate

You have got a huge misunderstanding or have been misinformed. There is not much special treatment from the cops in Bangalore to other state registration.

This is huge relief if so, thanks for the inputs, and if so, I stand corrected I am praying this is not the case- I have a DL Superbike as well and I cant go to all the hassle of registration transfer. I have heard of so many folks telling me about the horror stories that I have developed an innate bitterness.

Originally Posted by vikramk

We can do without this kind of hate mongering on this platform.

My bad- did not mean to "hate monger" , (A rather strong term IMHO) But i can see why it would come across that way- should have chosen my words better. Fact that cops are corrupt and harrass folks is true, especially for Superbike owners, so that gives rise to a lot of irritation

[mytbhp_turbo]

Originally Posted by sauravm_89

This is huge relief if so, thanks for the inputs, and if so, I stand corrected I am praying this is not the case- I have a DL Superbike as well and I cant go to all the hassle of registration transfer. I have heard of so many folks telling me about the horror stories that I have developed an innate bitterness.
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Out of state rule are very clear, you can use vehicle up to 1 year after that you have to pay road tax in KA depending on your vehicle age and invoice.

[SILVERWOOD]

The first BH series vehicle of Karnakata.

Registered this morning at KR Puram RTO.

[darklitex]

Originally Posted by sauravm_89

Anyways, since the benefits outweighed the cost and I wanted to get this done ASP
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will provide such a document- statewise GST numbers with addresses are publicly verifiable and enough proof!

If possible can you please attach the final annexure format of form 60 you used. I’m also trying for a BH series registration from Delhi RTO and it would be a big help. OT: good for you that you were able to convince them with just GST Numbers. My luck has not been so good

[OffRoadFun]

Originally Posted by superchamp

Congrats on getting your BH Number plate


You have got a huge misunderstanding or have been misinformed. There is not much special treatment from the cops in Bangalore to other state registration. They don't take bribe or harass you if all your papers are in order. I have been using my KL registration cars in Bangalore for the past 6 years and haven't been harassed unnecessarily till date.
Hope this clarifies..

AFAIK, you can not drive out of state car in ANY state legally for six years. The time limit to change registration varies but is never as long as six years, even if you pay the road tax in new state. The vehicle, once out of state of original registration, has to get NoC to move out of state which means the vehicle will get BOTH registered in new state AND pay local road tax. Both the steps are mandatory (registration to new state and of course corresponding local road tax).
So technically, you can not have fully legal paperwork in KA with KL registration as grace period in KA is only a year. Even if you pay KA road tax.

[varkey]

Originally Posted by OffRoadFun

egal paperwork in KA with KL registration as grace period in KA is only a year. Even if you pay KA road tax.

Say I have a house in both KA and KL with valid address proofs, and I frequently move between both residences. But let's just say majority of the period in a given year I'm in KA. The vehicle also makes several trips between KA and KL in a year.

Wouldn't this fall in a grey area? Because technically the vehicle has been plying in both KL and KA. Wouldn't the grace period get reset at some point?

[superchamp]

Originally Posted by OffRoadFun

AFAIK, you can not drive out of state car in ANY state legally for six years. The time limit to change registration varies but is never as long as six years, even if you pay the road tax in new state. The vehicle, once out of state of original registration, has to get NoC to move out of state which means the vehicle will get BOTH registered in new state AND pay local road tax. Both the steps are mandatory (registration to new state and of course corresponding local road tax).
So technically, you can not have fully legal paperwork in KA with KL registration as grace period in KA is only a year. Even if you pay KA road tax.

Let me clarify the six years. I frequently drive to my home in Kerala and back and the car was not in bangalore for even 3 -4 months at a stretch. On top of this the car has gone to TN, MH, AP.,GA etc.. As well.i am not obliged to pay tax in KA for using the roads unless I plan to use the car permanently here in bangalore. I don't think we have to change registration because I don't plan to make bangalore my permanent home anyways.

[sauravm_89]

Originally Posted by darklitex

If possible can you please attach the final annexure format of form 60 you used. I’m also trying for a BH series registration from Delhi RTO and it would be a big help. OT: good for you that you were able to convince them with just GST Numbers. My luck has not been so good

Sure- Attaching the form- have redacted some sections to avoid general misuse

Also, what helped was that I directly reached out to some MLO's from various Delhi RTO's to get clarity on what exactly was required (These details are publicly available ) ; once such person who seemed fairly clear and fair on the requirement was Mr . Mukesh Budhiraja , (MLO for Mayur Vihar I think)- you can try speaking with him. His contact is +919811320032- I am sharing it here since all the RTO contacts are public info, available with a simple google search.

[OffRoadFun]

Originally Posted by varkey

Say I have a house in both KA and KL with valid address proofs, and I frequently move between both residences. But let's just say majority of the period in a given year I'm in KA. The vehicle also makes several trips between KA and KL in a year.

Wouldn't this fall in a grey area? Cause technically the vehicle has been plying in both KL and KA. Wouldn't the grace period get reset at some point?

It will fall into grey area but will still be up to RTO officer's discretion to consider if caught say in KA. If you are in service in KA, it will immediately be assumed you are in KA regardless of how many months at a stretch you keep car in KA. And regardless of what one thinks, how RTO officer will interpret this is anyone's guess. They have power to impound vehicle. That's a reality.

Originally Posted by superchamp

Let me clarify the six years. I frequently drive to my home in Kerala and back and the car was not in bangalore for even 3 -4 months at a stretch. On top of this the car has gone to TN, MH, AP.,GA etc.. As well.i am not obliged to pay tax in KA for using the roads unless I plan to use the car permanently here in bangalore. I don't think we have to change registration because I don't plan to make bangalore my permanent home anyways.

Again, the permanency will be determined by RTO's criterion, not by what we think. That will most likely be linked to your employment regardless of where you own house. Look, I am not being an advocate of RTO or high road taxes, in fact I detest them but the reality is one is at the discretion of RTO officer in the case mentioned above. The original point was whether a car with outside registration can have fool proof papers to courageously face any RTO checks, the answer is an emphatic NO, even in the scenario you mentioned. Goodluck!

[funkykar]

Originally Posted by sauravm_89

In the meantime, I kept reading horror stories of worthless Bangalore cops greasing their palms at the cost of hapless civilians with out-of-state number plates- and my trusty DL registered- i20 active was also now 5yrs+- all of which led to the decision that we gotta sell the i20 off and then buy something post our movement to Bangalore.

Pure rubbish. You likely have been using your car beyond the prescribed period of time in Karnataka and want to blame the cops/enforcement authority for this?