[GeeTee TSI]

The intent of this BH registration options seems to be facilitating easy movement from state to state in the event of job related relocations. Strangely, I did not see this being the most common reason for opting BH. Rather, the discussions largely revolve around lower upfront payment and/or staggered payment of road tax and the resulting savings. Given the steep differential I am concerned about misuse of the facility.

My personal experience of transferring RC from MH43 to KA50 by paying the destination road tax but being unable to claim the prorated refund, makes me want this new system to just retain the car without hassles/additional expense.

On a different note, shouldn't any option involving upfront payment be structured in such a way that it works out cheaper than staggered payments in absolute terms?!

[skpprabhu]

Originally Posted by GeeTee TSI

The intent of this BH registration options seems to be facilitating easy movement from state to state in the event of job related relocations. Strangely, I did not see this being the most common reason for opting BH. Rather, the discussions largely revolve around lower upfront payment and/or staggered payment of road tax and the resulting savings. Given the steep differential I am concerned about misuse of the facility.

Absolutely, I think actual users should be paying more to get this facility. So that others will not opt for this and states also will not be worried about revenue loss.

And with the current scheme also I am not sure what kind of treatment BH series owners will get from the cops across different states.

[bharanidharang]

I dont see any information on Tamil Nadu in the news for BH registration ! Not in the fray for now or is it not being publicised ?

I might look into a new vehicle next year and this would definitely help.

[banana]

Originally Posted by skpprabhu

Absolutely, I think actual users should be paying more to get this facility. So that others will not opt for this and states also will not be worried about revenue loss.

And with the current scheme also I am not sure what kind of treatment BH series owners will get from the cops across different states.

Exactly, they charge your 25% more overall (but not on same day). Given that how money appreciates in a secure asset (FD or something) and how time works, the effective value of 15 years of road tax in today's money comes out to be less than the base road tax.

There is a shift in working here, the plan is to get road tax forever not just once for a lifetime (calculated for 15 years). There is no mention of what will happen after 15 years of vehicle life, maybe that will be a thing to worry about if some brand makes a collectable vehicle, or if someone gets attached to their metal bodied family member. While on the other hand, this will clearly be a problem of the insurance folks who repair a massively damaged vehicle and put it back on sale. At the same time, the damages on the owner will be limited to 2 years of road tax instead of the remaining lifetime.

As of today, this is clearly applicable for EVs. The base tax rate will be 2% less than the petrol siblings. Some states are promoting EVs by not asking for any road tax, some even make the filing process free. So a person going for BH registration for an EV is clearly paying non-zero amount as road tax, while a person going for state registration maybe paying just the filing charge (at max) in some of the states and may even save that amount in some other states. Another question is, what happens if a person goes for BH registration for an EV in a state which has additional rebate on EV purchase, say MH, does the owner get all the subsidies or can the state simply say no.

The set of arguments we have are not because one registration type is more economical on day zero but, because different states have different road tax. They had to come up with some number, this happens to be less than the base tax of some states, this also happens to be more than some other states.

NOTE: these are my views, if you disagree, please quote and reply, if I've offended you, it was completely unintentional.

[skpprabhu]

Originally Posted by banana

Exactly, they charge your 25% more overall (but not on same day). Given that how money appreciates in a secure asset (FD or something) and how time works, the effective value of 15 years of road tax in today's money comes out to be less than the base road tax.

Completely agree and appreciate your views , may be I am wrong but my understanding is for many buyers the upfront paynment matters a lot than the staggered payments and with the current scenario I feel this factor is a blocker for the implementation of this scheme.

[banana]

Originally Posted by skpprabhu

for many buyers the upfront paynment matters a lot than the staggered payments and with the current scenario I feel this factor is a blocker for the implementation of this scheme.

Now that you've pointed out, I tried to rethink. It would also become a pseudo insurance for the govt. in situations when the auto sector is not performing well (for few months) but they are still spending on the supporting infrastructure (we'll leave this debate for some other day).

Also as you said, the post ownership routine payments will increase. This will also make everyone question if the next cycle of tax justify the ownership experience. People may consider new vehicles more often as they have to continue paying the same tax amount for a little aged vehicle which may not be as fun to drive on the improved (over last few tax cycles) infrastructure.

There may be points in favor of the economy.

This will eventually iron out the differences in taxation in different states. If not directly, otherwise.

[wild thought] why not combine GST and road tax for autos and allow manufacturers to provide identifier (call it a registration plate or any other thing, it is just an identifier) from the factory itself. People can walk in to the showrooms, select a vehicle, select a insurance provider, pay and drive away. They (govt.) accept IMEI set by manufacturers in case of mobile phones, why not cars. I guess this can lead to a new debate in a new thread.
Mods, this came out of the blue, I have no idea how my brain works

Side-note: if there is disagreement, there is learning. Please disagree, I'll learn something.

[Everlearner]

Online campaign asking KA govt to wake-up and implement BH series in the state

https://m.timesofindia.com/city/beng...w/87431837.cms

[84.monsoon]

Originally Posted by bharanidharang

I dont see any information on Tamil Nadu in the news for BH registration ! Not in the fray for now or is it not being publicised ?

I might look into a new vehicle next year and this would definitely help.

I doubt TN will implement this. The state has a massive revenue deficit, thanks to the freebies and giveaways by past governments to swing elections. Road tax is one of the key components of state revenues and implementation of BH series will mean again giving away control of an instrument of taxation to the centre. As it is the state is going hammer and tongs against the center objecting to the various GST provisions etc. TN may be one of the last states to adopt BH.

[hemanthbs]

Odias Residing Outside The State Can Now Get Bharat (BH) Registration In Odisha , latest news on BH in Odisha. Looks like the govt there is doing everything right.

Link to news article :https://ommcomnews.com/odisha-news/o...tion-in-odisha

[banana]

Originally Posted by hemanthbs

Odias Residing Outside The State Can Now Get Bharat (BH) Registration In Odisha , latest news on BH in Odisha. Looks like the govt there is doing everything right.

Link to news article :https://ommcomnews.com/odisha-news/o...tion-in-odisha

Should we start looking for "To Let" properties in Odisha?

Chances are it will be less time consuming than waiting for an unknow duration.

Meanwhile, many dealer in MH still have no idea about this. I was in conversation with 3, representing different manufacturers, they have no idea. One of them even said, this will be in effect from next year. Thankfully I had the news article about first BH registration handy.

Came across another article that says 15 UTs and states have this in place now. They mentioned the top few but did not give list of all of them.

[hemanthbs]

Originally Posted by banana

Meanwhile, many dealer in MH still have no idea about this. .

Know person has taken the delivery with BH registration in MH (MH-05 RTO), TATA Nexon.

[SILVERWOOD]

Today's Times of India, Bangalore edition.

[arghadeep13]

West Bengal is currently issuing licences in the old paper format. They are printing out the license and performing a lamination before handing out the license to the applicants. And that looks really pathetic.

[RaviKBobba]

Ray of Hope for Karnataka people. This is the response I received today regarding BH series. Looks like they are doing software update so that BH module will show in Vahaan Portal.

[AutoNoob]

Originally Posted by SILVERWOOD

Today's Times of India, Bangalore edition.

Why can't motor vehicle department / RTOs process the renewals/ extensions, why wait for availability of physical cards ?

The data will get updated on mParivahan app. It can be shown when asked by traffic police.

I sold my vehicle last month. The transfer documentation was promptly done. Name of new owner was updated within 3~4 days and same was visible in mParivahan app. Though physical RC card is still awaited.