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View Poll Results: What is your future plan with your 15-49 year old car?
I will keep my car fit and running and with me, come what may 160 54.42%
I will sooner or later sell my old car and buy something new 62 21.09%
I will surrender my old car to the scrapyard and avail rebate to buy a new one 28 9.52%
I am undecided 44 14.97%
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Old 7th August 2021, 18:33   #1
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What do you intend to do with your 15-49 year old automobile? Keep vs sell vs scrap

A new notification is soon expected from the Union Transport and Highways Ministry which will deal with scrapping of 15-49 year old automobiles. It will also enumerate norms with regard to fitness and re-registration for 15-49 year old motor vehicles. And here, since we discuss the car scene, we can write about our future action plan for any such old car (private ownership only) that we could be owning right now. The scrapping policy as was notified earlier in the draft notification had proposed that the date from which it would take effect would be 01.10.2021. If we go by media reports, they say the scrapping policy is soon awaited with no "sugar daddy" approach for the oldies, since these have been labelled as polluting en masse, though mischeviously and falsely by all concerned in the corridors of power. But the information gathered is that the once thought of "compulsory scrapping" for any automobile in this 15-49 age group is now passe and is not being thought of. However, the Transport Ministry proposes to tax these with much escalated fitness and re-registration fees with the five year fitness to be undergone in designated automated fitness testing centres. Fifty plus year olds are already officially notified as "vintages" and the owners need not worry at all about their future, which is so secure that even astrologer's predictions could fail in their respect.

Hence, to reveal my plans, I would firstly say that I will cross the river when I come to it. Next to reveal my plan, in my garage I have only one 34 year old Maruti 800 (SB308) in this category that is not going anywhere and shall remain fit and running with me always.

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Old 7th August 2021, 19:27   #2
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re: What do you intend to do with your 15-49 year old automobile? Keep vs sell vs scrap

My Bolero DI Turbo is due for retest next month. It has run only 1,15,000 kms and is in excellent condition. He has carried me for these years faithfully without even a single wayside breakdown and so in return I intend to carry him forward, come whatever may. Point.

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re: What do you intend to do with your 15-49 year old automobile? Keep vs sell vs scrap

(Sarcasm ahead)

This is part of the grand conspiracy to sell more fuel.

By accident or by intent, cars manufactured between 2000 and 2010 were highly fuel efficient. They were manufactured at a time when quality was sought after and given. All the unnecessary gizmos either mandatory or otherwise were nonexistent.

Now you cannot own a car giving 15-20 kmpl. That would be unproductive. So the best option would be to scrap it and buy newer cars which are less efficient. And then scrap these cars to go electric.

The 2004 Alto gives 18 kmpl in city traffic. Currently Alto is not sold I think? The older Alto 800 gives about 16 kmpl.
The 2005-08 Honda City gives 15 kmpl in the city and 22 kmpl in the highways. The new city gives around 12 kmpl and 18 kmpl.
The old Swift/ Indica/ Palio used to give 18+ kmpl easily. Only swift exists and gives about 12 kmpl.
Even diesel vehicles of yesteryears used to give phenomenal efficiency. I had a Ford Fiesta and Figo which used to give 20+kmpl. A full tank range was >1000 kms. Do the current crop of cars do that?
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Old 7th August 2021, 19:50   #4
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re: What do you intend to do with your 15-49 year old automobile? Keep vs sell vs scrap

My Ford Ikon is still as dear to me as it was 20 years ago. It was my primary car for 14 years and served as the secondary car between 2014-2019. The implementation of the NGT rule in NCR put an end to its dream run of 19 years. Not being able to run on the public roads pretty much renders a vehicle useless. However, that does not mean that the vehicle has become irrelevant; it is still very close to my heart and is in great mechanical health. It is also pretty original and would easily be able to serve as a city car for years to come. It’s ride and handling balance are still very impressive and there are few cars that can match it for steering feel.

Not being able to run it on the roads makes it a pain for me to maintain it. I had recently faced a severe ant infestation in the car. But despite this, I am willing to keep this car. If all else fails, I might send it away to my native place where the car is registered and can thus run without any issues.

This is how the 2 decade old looks now:

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Scrapping is pretty much the only option for us NCR people stuck with 10+ year old cars. Can’t use them and can’t sell them, the RC can no longer be transferred. The new owner will keep running the car in your name, and you will be responsible if something, anything happens. I scrapped my 15 year old 2.6 DI Scorpio last month. It had done over 4.5L km, but had been cooling its heels in my factory compound for quite some time now. We waited and waited for a formal scrappage policy to be implemented but that never happened.

You either sell the car off inside the 10 year window and ensure the RC transfer goes through. Otherwise, you have to scrap it for whatever money you can. And mind you, there is no clarity on exactly how much rebate or any other benefit you’ll get. I only have a certificate of destruction from an government authorised scrap yard to show for it. The benefits are just proposals as of now.

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If all else fails, I might send it away to my native place where the car is registered and can thus run without any issues.
Delhi government does not extend RCs. You can’t drive around with an expired registration. By extension, you can’t get insurance either. Do not drive a car without RC or insurance, in Delhi or anywhere else. God forbid if anything happens, you (or the person in whose name the car is) will be in serious trouble with so many violations.

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Delhi government does not extend RCs. You can’t drive around with an expired registration. By extension, you can’t get insurance either. Do not drive a car without RC or insurance, in Delhi or anywhere else. God forbid if anything happens, you (or the person in whose name the car is) will be in serious trouble with so many violations.
Yes, I am aware about RC extension not being granted in Delhi. In fact, it is the same in Gurgaon, Noida, Greater Noida etc. RTOs. However, my car is registered at JH04, where you can get renewals every 5 years after the 15 year expiry, provided you renew each time before the previous renewal expires. I had got one renewal in 2015 and recently got another one last year. My car has a valid RC till 2025 and valid insurance till next year.
In case you don’t get the renewal before the RC expires, you’d have to pay a penalty and then they will have to inspect the car physically.

I also do not drive it on public roads at all. I just drive it around my residential block every 3-4 days, just so the battery remains charged.
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I would firstly say that I will cross the river when I come to it
My car would turn 15 next year, and I will wait for the renewal rules to be cast. I will have the registration renewed and keep the car for a few more years. Reason? The car knows me and I know the car for the last 7 years. A known old devil is better than an unreliable tinny angel of today.
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re: What do you intend to do with your 15-49 year old automobile? Keep vs sell vs scrap

The Vista completes 10 this year, but since I'm in a Tier II city, not sure what the regulations will be. If additional tax, then I shall pay the same rather than paying EMIs on cars of a similar size costing almost a million bucks or more.

It has served me well so far and still rides fine.
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re: What do you intend to do with your 15-49 year old automobile? Keep vs sell vs scrap

If possible, I would like to retain such a vehicle. I am not voting yet, because I am waiting for the official communication / notification release for this.

I do hope that these testing centres will do the testing correctly, and also give a chance to rectify any issues before enforcing scrapping on old vehicles.

I dont expect too much of a problem for 15-20 year old vehicles. But as the vehicles get older, it may become a challenge at these centres.
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My Linea will be completing 11 this Nov. I still have 4yrs of RC validity and hope that I do get an extension of another term. I would like to retain this car as long as possible as I have got sweet memories. I am keenly awaiting the scrappage policy details. Hoping that it is in the right direction.
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re: What do you intend to do with your 15-49 year old automobile? Keep vs sell vs scrap

Voted for "I will keep my car fit and running and with me, come what may".
The scraping rule has more to do with manufacturers lobbying than anything else in my view at the moment. My 2012 Innova diesel feels its age with very heavy controls and engine that's not powerful enough. But in now way its in bad health. With 88-89K on Odometer, its still got enough life. I intend to keep it for long, its a reliable machine that can survive a decade or so more. Sure, I long for better modern machines that are better at tackling those endless diversions appearing abundantly on NH I need to ply on. But its not to do with car but infrastructure. Rather than fixing infrastructure, we are pushed with an illogical rule.
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re: What do you intend to do with your 15-49 year old automobile? Keep vs sell vs scrap

My 2005 Baleno1.6 completed 16years last March. Fitness done till 2025.
Still the FTD car she was while new & in 2021 alone I did a solo KL-Chennai 1500km to&fro trip and a family North Kerala 1000km trip, apart from daily running around.

I was planning to keep her atleast till 2025 & then decide. But wife is insisting on a small AT car for her. And we neither have the need for 2 cars nor do I want to be spending time/effort on maintaining 2 cars. If we end up buying a car for her, I might sell her off or keep as a hobby car - hence voted Undecided.

At sweet 16, this is how she looks. Does she look like she has to be scrapped ?
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Re: What do you intend to do with your 15-49 year old automobile? Keep vs sell vs scrap

My Jeep is turning 25 in Feb '22. I don't think there will be a country-wide ban on 15+ year old cars as India's car penetration levels are very poor (40 / 1000 citizens vs 800 / 1000 in developed countries) and 20-year old cars can offer lots of utility at cheap prices in semi-urban & rural India.

That said, Bombay could follow Delhi's lead and ban 10+ year old cars. The current state government is very aggressive. If that happens, as
Sanidhya Mukund did, I would probably just keep my Jeep as a work-of-art parked permanently in my building. Don't have any parking spot issues as of now (until I buy a few more cars I have my eyes set on), and I'm tied to it legally. Like the ex-spouse who won't give you a divorce, my Jeep has been behaving the same way (How to remove RC book hypothecation if the car loan company has shut down?).
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Most people will continue using their vehicle and pay the fitness charges etc. Buying a car isn't what it used to be and a lot of people are getting priced out of getting upgrades.
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A new notification is soon expected from the Union Transport and Highways Ministry which will deal with scrapping of 15-49 year old automobiles. It will also enumerate norms with regard to fitness and re-registration for 15-49 year old motor vehicles
I am having 2003 Corolla 1.8G. Running after 1st Fitness going fantastic. No issues in the Engine. Recently changed brake booster and minor paint work done. In my opinion i am OK to keep the car for another 5 years atleast. We bought it as used car for 2Lakhs and no mood of selling it. Cost of Minor repairs can be easily managed when compared to the cost of new sedan of similar or lower segment. As long on the car is good without major repair, Will happily use it and scrap the car at a point where it can't be used anymore.
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