[Kosfactor]

Originally Posted by PrideRed

The front end looks so similar and even side profile. Difference is noticed once you see rear or the length. Its not bad looking car, but when you launch something all new, why not make it standout! I am not in favor of T shirt sizing design for car models(Mercedes/Audi and now VW/Skoda).

It has unfortunately gone too far I feel.

From elegant & understated to boring and unimaginative. Some new designer is going to shake things up for good in near future, is this the most over used corporate grill? Maybe.

[sid_deb]

Originally Posted by PrideRed

VW could have kept a simple naming convention. Tiguan S(Taigun), Tiguan M(Actual TIguan), Tiguan L(Allspace). The front end looks so similar and even side profile. Difference is noticed once you see rear or the length. Its not bad looking car, but when you launch something all new, why not make it standout! I am not in favor of T shirt sizing design for car models(Mercedes/Audi and now VW/Skoda).

Interesting observation.

Personally, I would say this is still acceptable as standalone the car looks slick. However not the disproportionate extensions like the Alcazar over the Creta and Ameo over the Polo.

This car won't sell on looks, hopefully on technology and safety which the Korean twins lack.

[sunikkat]

Originally Posted by Venkatesh

Volkswagen Taigun spotted undisguised on public roads

The rear lights look over done, other than that its a neat design and will age well

[PrideRed]

Originally Posted by sid_deb

Interesting observation.

Personally, I would say this is still acceptable as standalone the car looks slick. However not the disproportionate extensions like the Alcazar over the Creta and Ameo over the Polo.

This car won't sell on looks, hopefully on technology and safety which the Korean twins lack.

Unless Taigun is crash tested and we have the result, I am not buying the safety. If I am not wrong, this is made for India car, after dieselgate scandal, I will not buy in VW safety unless proven.

[sid_deb]

Originally Posted by PrideRed

Unless Taigun is crash tested and we have the result, I am not buying the safety. If I am not wrong, this is made for India car, after dieselgate scandal, I will not buy in VW safety unless proven.

Completely agreed. We can only be hopeful, VW has lost all the consumer trust after the dieselgate scandal.

On a broader note, why doesn't the government make it mandatory to publish the crash test rating before launch. Similar to ARAI mileage check before a car can be sold.

[yesyeswe]

Originally Posted by sid_deb

Completely agreed. We can only be hopeful, VW has lost all the consumer trust after the dieselgate scandal.

On a broader note, why doesn't the government make it mandatory to publish the crash test rating before launch. Similar to ARAI mileage check before a car can be sold.

Because a lot of cars in India would get bad publicity because of a crash test and manufactures don't want that? There's a lot of lobbying by car manufactures regarding the rules and regulations set up by the government, so in a way car manufactures don't want that to happen.

Moreover in a developing nation with a population of 1.3 billion human life doesn't matter that much sadly. We have so many accidental deaths every year yet our driving tests are a joke.

[sid_deb]

Originally Posted by yesyeswe

Because a lot of cars in India would get bad publicity because of a crash test and manufactures don't want that? There's a lot of lobbying by car manufactures regarding the rules and regulations set up by the government, so in a way car manufactures don't want that to happen.

Moreover in a developing nation with a population of 1.3 billion human life doesn't matter that much sadly. We have so many accidental deaths every year yet our driving tests are a joke.

I think this will happen in a few years. Earlier, the plan was to make crash tests mandatory by 2019. While the crash test facility has come up at ICAT Manesar and ARAI Pune, the test has still not been enforced.

Also the manufacturers have definitely lobbied to relax the Bharat crash test norms compared to GNCAP. India requires the vehicle to be driven at 56kmph while GNCAP mandates 64kmph. There are other relaxations as well.

Attached article has the details:
https://www.timesnownews.com/auto/ca...centric/554491

[robimahanta]

Originally Posted by PrideRed

Unless Taigun is crash tested and we have the result, I am not buying the safety. If I am not wrong, this is made for India car, after dieselgate scandal, I will not buy in VW safety unless proven.

People bought Toyota even with the Takata airbag issue and will still avoid VW from a safety stand point even though the dieselgate was related to emissions. Often preconceived notions play a big role in car purchase especially in India and its not going to change. Maruti (even rebadged Toyota’s) and Hyundai will always rule the roost here

[PrideRed]

Originally Posted by robimahanta

People bought Toyota even with the Takata airbag issue and will still avoid VW from a safety stand point even though the dieselgate was related to emissions. Often preconceived notions play a big role in car purchase especially in India and its not going to change. Maruti (even rebadged Toyota’s) and Hyundai will always rule the roost here

VW or Toyota, unless proven in crash tests, I have no reason to believe a car is safe. Just because a car from a stable scored good rating, need not make another model safe. Etios scored 4 stars, means nothing to me for Fortuner as India made is not tested. Same holds true for any other brand, be a 3 pointed star or Audi unless it's CBU. So unless Taigun is crash tested, I have no reason to believe it's safer than say Creta. If proven in test, safety will become a selling point and a big positive for Taigun.
Emission just showed VW is as trustworthy as Toyota when it comes to business.

[anto1212]

Originally Posted by PrideRed

VW or Toyota, unless proven in crash tests, I have no reason to believe a car is safe. Just because a car from a stable scored good rating, need not make another model safe. Etios scored 4 stars, means nothing to me for Fortuner as India made is not tested. Same holds true for any other brand, be a 3 pointed star or Audi unless it's CBU. So unless Taigun is crash tested, I have no reason to believe it's safer than say Creta. If proven in test, safety will become a selling point and a big positive for Taigun.
Emission just showed VW is as trustworthy as Toyota when it comes to business.

I really hope that VAG did not compromise on their safety like how Kia did with the Indian variant or else I'd have to cancel my booking.

Zac Hollis has repeatedly said although the platform is made for india, no compromise is made in safety.

But like you said, unless it's crash tested. We can't be sure.

[ADI7YAK]

Volkswagen continuously testing new Taigun in and around Pune. Seen here the LHD variant.
The tail light was not malfunctioning, just the shutter speed and LED flicker combined making it look that way.

[84.monsoon]

Dealer Ads popping up everywhere indicating pricing of Rs. 10-20 lakhs. This is as expected, but if this is about on-road price, that means the entry level variant may come in priced around 9 lakhs! That would be a steal for a brand new model of a new mid-size SUV, with a modern and powerful turbocharged engine and a brand new 6-speed manual gearbox.

I feel VW may actually go aggressive on Taigun pricing. This is a project they have been working on for 5 years and desperately need to make a bang on launch. They do not have a significant advantage on paper, in terms of size, power or features as compared to Creta, which sold its very well equipped EX NA Petrol Manual at 9.99 at launch (though no only the stripped down E version is available below 10 lakhs). Hyundai dealers are sure to sell the "50% larger engine" of the Creta NA Petrol (conveniently ignoring the turbocharged engine of the Taigun which makes higher torque and likely faster in acceleration) as well as the larger size of the Creta as compared to the Taigun. So the Taigun will need a "Brahma Astra" to make a mark and cause a stir. The one thing VW can do is shock starting pricing (at least initially) that will make the market sit up and notice.

Another way VW can make a statement is give "guaranteed delivery in 30 days" for example, which can draw in some Seltos and Creta customers. A bit like the Real Estate companies of today! One can get possession of a flat in a newly launched residential project faster than they can get delivery of a Thar if they book today

[steadfast]

As compared to old Creta, Taigun exhibits so much elegance. Design will age very gracefully for sure and it will stand out in crowd for the smartness. Expect next 10 years of this design to stay as is the case of Polo and still people will love it.

Secondly, Creta seems to be with imbalanced proportions, excess height as compared to width. Could be the image is misleading here hence the view about Creta but Taigun looks to be of balanced proportions and possibly have better dynamics. But everything I state is how the above pic portrays.

My perception. Other members can have differing views and I welcome diversity of thoughts.

[CrAzY dRiVeR]

Originally Posted by steadfast

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As compared to old Creta, Taigun exhibits so much elegance. Design will age very gracefully for sure and it will stand out in crowd for the smartness. Expect next 10 years of this design to stay as is the case of Polo and still people will love it.

Personally, I feel the old Creta looks far more elegant in this pic (sans that rear skidplate accessory!).

Tail-lamp looks so overdone, I'd pick the Kushaq for this reason alone!

[Shreyas_H]

Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR

Tail-lamp looks so overdone, I'd pick the Kushaq for this reason alone!

I agree, especially in the white colour. My sense is that darker colours will look better on the Taigun.

Yes, between the two cousins, no questions Kushaq is the better looking car IMO