[Venkatesh]

Maruti set to expand CNG portfolio, sees no merit in small BS 6 diesel engine.

MSI Executive Director Sales and Marketing Shashank Srivastava told PTI, There is absolutely no logic in developing a small diesel engine. It is less than 5% in hatchback segment and has reduced considerably in sedans and entry-level SUV segment as now economics does not support it.

The auto major, however may look at having a bigger BS 6 diesel engine at a later stage if there are enough customers for diesel-powered big SUVs and sedans.

We will have to look at the market because we believe that such market (diesel SUV, sedan) will slowly disappear, he said.

https://auto.hindustantimes.com/auto...150434210.html

[sumeethaldankar]

With the SUV craze swamping the market it will not be long before Maruti starts to make diesel engines again. It will probably be introduced once Maruti is ready with proper SUV's to challenge the likes of the Creta/Seltos.

[BoneCollector]

Originally Posted by Venkatesh

Maruti set to expand CNG portfolio, sees no merit in small BS 6 diesel engine.

Small is how small as per their logic? A mid size sedan or a CSUV can have a 1.5L diesel engine. But for bigger SUVs (which they don't have at present) and Sedans (Ciaz), I feel the 1.5 fits the bill. Brezza, S-Cross and Ciaz need a bigger engine, the 1.5L. Every other company has come out with its BS6 diesel engine without the hyped 1-1.5L increase in cost as claimed by Maruti earlier. Maruti is on backfoot but has been helped by the petrol and diesel price parity. Let's see how they plan.

[rahulskumar]

I somehow feel Maruti might be playing a big role behind the recent surge in diesel prices. This way they can make sure competitors lose the advantage of introducing BS6 diesel vehicles and they can keep convincing the investors about their illogical decision making. If not, somehow they already knew diesel will be made expensive than petrol in near future. Have we ever thought one day we will be paying more for liter of diesel than petrol

Maruti has to bring in 1.4 turbo to power s-cross. 1.5 mill wont have enough torque to move a vehicle with 1.3 ton kerb weight. It will be dead on arrival.

[theautoman]

(Sorry for Digressing)

There are very few CNG filling stations in Bangalore. This has created a vicious cycle of less CNG cars - Less Filling station. A small reprieve is the relatively easy availability of LPG in and around the city.

A company like Maruti should provide the enabling infrastructure and then introduce the CNG cars in such cities, we need CNG taxis badly to replace the Diesel ones.

[PrasannaDhana]

The most lazy automaker today, just like how Hero is in 2-wheeler space.

Their old association (97.2 cc engine from Honda to Hero & 1.3 MJD from Fiat to Maruti) is the reason why both of them tasted success in the mass market.

Not trying to evolve with the times will have its effect. Why not bring the already developed 1.5 diesel BS6 ready? I believe they really don't have any expertise to do that.

A swift/baleno with the 1.5 diesel will attract many enthusiasts too.

[CARDEEP]

Originally Posted by PrasannaDhana

The most lazy automaker today, just like how Hero is in 2-wheeler space.

Their old association (97.2 cc engine from Honda to Hero & 1.3 MJD from Fiat to Maruti) is the reason why both of them tasted success in the mass market.

Not trying to evolve with the times will have its effect. Why not bring the already developed 1.5 diesel BS6 ready? I believe they really don't have any expertise to do that.

A swift/baleno with the 1.5 diesel will attract many enthusiasts too.

Suzuki got more from Maruti than what Hero got from Honda:
1. Unrestricted access to widen dealer & service network, that's why we see almost 4 times number of dealers than any of its competitor.
2. Leveraging on Indian Govt Company benefit for increasing sales.
3. Unprecedented financial stability to Japanese HQ arising from revenue earned by Indian subsidiary, lest it would have been sold for pennies to Toyota much earlier.
4. Favourable policies... Though may would write this off as allegation or rumor.

[Capricorn]

Originally Posted by Venkatesh

Maruti set to expand CNG portfolio, sees no merit in small BS 6 diesel engine.

The grapes are sour because they are too high to pluck.

[Venkatesh]

Maruti Suzuki is planning to further enhance the CNG portfolio in the coming days, Swift, Dzire, Ciaz and Ignis could be next in line to get the CNG option soon.

https://gaadiwaadi.com/maruti-swift-...g-option-soon/

[Aditya]

Maruti set to expand CNG portfolio, sees no merit in small BS 6 diesel engine - Posts moved to a new thread.

[sreeharipv]

NG is so cheap in the international market, we should look in to NG use in trucks and buses. Can help reduce particulate emission until we switch everything to EVs.

Someone should come up with a way to convert the diesel engines to run on NG. (Note: I know that diesel is compression ignition and NG probably won't work that way).

[GTO]

This is wrong on so many levels.

- Maruti was just fine with small diesels, until the BS6 norms came in and the company realised it didn't have the technical capability to meet these new requirements. Sure, they are working on a BS6 version of the 1.5L diesel, but it wasn't ready in time because of lack of capability.

For smaller diesels, Maruti has nothing to show, hence it suddenly sees "no merit" in them. If Fiat had provided a BS6 1.3L MJD, Maruti would happily continue with it.

- CNG? Dream on, that fuel has come & gone. CNG has been around since years for passenger cars and the market has already delivered its verdict = not interested. Maruti talking of an outdated "CNG" while the world is talking of EVs just shows how outdated the company's thinking is.

I see Maruti's R&D as terribly poor. That's why they have tied up with Toyota.

[roamer012]

Originally Posted by sreeharipv

NG is so cheap in the international market, we should look in to NG use in trucks and buses.

Issue is not of technology (Delhi buses have been running since almost 2 decades now on CNG) rather availability of fueling infra along the highways.

Originally Posted by GTO

- CNG? Dream on, that fuel has come & gone. CNG has been around since years for passenger cars and the market has already delivered its verdict = not interested.

On the contrary, massive work is going on for CNG expansion in cities as well as along highways. If I am not wrong, govt has a plan / target to provide minimum one CNG fuelling station for every 150km of highway stretch (Infra is highly cost intensive and this would suffice need of long distance truckers as well as motorists alike). Take a look at the website of PNGRB and you will get to know the current status of various City Gas Distribution (CGD) block auctions as well as progress of pipeline laying for the same.

[steadfast]

I read somewhere few months back but not 100% sure on this. Someone can verify or reject this information all together.

I believe all this skeptism towards Diesel engines is due to some upcoming norms in 2023, which manufacturers think will be tough to comply. Hence, brands are either going ahead with either scrapping diesel engine plans or standardising portfolio to 1 diesel engine across all cars to reach economies of scale before 2023 deadline.

[akshaysawant]

Why can't we have automatic in CNG? Can anyone recollect of any such variant launched?