[Behemoth]

Here are some pics of the XL6 I took today of the Brown one on display. I quite liked the overall package and Maruti has made the car quite better compared to the Ertiga. The black interiors add a lot of class to the car and it is very spacious with the captain seats.
The front dash also looks very suave and modern with the dark faux wood finish. The interior legroom and headroom is good. Even in the third row I could sit easily. The boot space is also very good with third row seats down and is nice and flat. Overall this car looks to be a very strong contender to be my next car , in comparison to the Hector and Seltos (so far).
Only a few things I did not like about it:
Lack of 6 airbags in any version
Sound quality of speakers was quite rudimentary
The roof mounted blower unit vents look very basic and could have been better.

[Abhinav_2502]

Must say Maruti have done a decent job with the XL6. The front end design looks quite nice and reminds me of the Honda CR-V in some pictures. Even the interiors seem completely different from the Ertiga( which it isn't) just because of the switch to black shade.

I feel the equipment included and the overall improvements done for the second row will make it an even better package for customers who don't need the extra seat.

The only things that I actually feel should have been included for the car are Side airbags( Applies for all Maruti Cars) and maybe slightly bigger wheels with a different design, at least for the Top spec Alpha trim.

[Reinhard]

Originally Posted by volkman10

More from the media drive,



Seating comfort:

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Source: respective Twitter a/c's

Exposed zipper type "leather" seat covers in a Premium offering. Only Maruti can do this. Only Maruti. Nobody even reports it in a review. Had this been Mahindra, Tata, Datsun, Renault - the review video / article would have opened with the zipper!
It used to be the same way even in old gen Ertiga! Come on Maruti!

And Maruti spent 100 Crore rupees on the R&D for this car? They should have approached TBHP as an outsourcing partner. We all would have contributed and given them this car in about 1 Lakh rupees tops.

I guess 99 of those 100 Crores were spent on marketing in trying to position this as a crossover SUV.

[Sree73]

Originally Posted by dadu

Agree, 195 is the standard max but many in this forum are already running at 205 on their 5.5j and is also within acceptable limits.

Many may be running 205mm wide tyre on 5.5J wheels. But, it is not in acceptable limits. It may work in normal conditions as the factor of safety is accounted in the wheel width vs tyre width calculations.

But, in case of an impact from uneven surface at high speed (Especially on cornering) the chance of tyre coming out from the wheel is a possibility if max width recommendation is not adhered to. (Not to scare those who are running on tyres beyond the recommended limits w.r.t wheel sizes.. but, the the possibility goes up).

If anyone want to upsize the tyre to 205, should go for minimum 6J wheels (205 is the safe max width for 6J).

Be safe and do not take chances with unscientific tyre / wheel size changes.

[paragsachania]

Originally Posted by dadu

Upsize to 195/60 or 205/60 and that should help to some extent and will improve the ride also.

Originally Posted by reppy

The best size will be 205/60. The speedo & tripmeter error is minimized in that case (around 1%). Also, going in for tires like Michelin P3ST or P4ST will result in no major change in mileage also, although the life of the Michelins is not more than 45-50,000 kms, despite the best of care.

Originally Posted by dadu

Agree, 195 is the standard max but many in this forum are already running at 205 on their 5.5j and is also within acceptable limits.

The XL6 or the New Ertiga's wheel size still doesn't change - 185/65R15 mounted onto 5.5J Size Alloys/Rims. This is same as what the outgoing models had.

On the same stock alloys, I have used the following:

• 185-65 Good Years - 16,000 Km
• 205-60 Michelin XM2 - 90,000 Km
• 195-65 Michelin Primacy 3ST - 70,000 Km

I have faced zero issues when it comes to upsized tires. Technically 195-65 would have higher sidewall than any of the above 3 options and one would have apprehensions about these rubbing the wheel arches but even on fullest load (7 Adults also), I faced none. On the other hand, the 205s are wider than the most and yet they didn't rub the bumper on full lock turns anywhere.

Regarding these tires mounted on the stock alloys (5.5J), the 205 profile did create a bulge on the sidewalls no matter how high the tire pressure was and this was simply because the Rim width was insufficient. Due to this, the actual usable patch of the tire that you would really be benefited will be 90% effectively. They certainly looked meaty, and when you notice these tires from the front or rear, the width did full justice to the MPV. I had no complaints with these whatsoever and the only reason why I wanted to try 195-65 was because I simply wanted to explore them and I am still happy with these set too. It is still a careful upgrade by all means.

Now, I will let the pictures do the talking:

Stock 185-65R15:


Upgraded 205-60R15:


Upgraded 205-60R15 - A closer look - Rear tire


Upgraded 205-60R15 - A closer look - Front tire


Upgraded 195-65R15


Upgraded 195-65R15- Closer look

As you can notice, 195/65 fits the wheel arches very well compared to the other two. But do also note that 195/65 is not the recommended upgrade (It is either 205/60 or 195/60). I didn't want to lose on GC and hence I went ahead with 195/65 and I have driven these for nearly 70,000 Km now and fully happy with the performance as well as handling. The good thing is that due to a larger circumference, the speedo almost matches GPS speeds but then the ODO and the MID (FE) is always lesser by a small percentage due to the lesser distance travelled on the same fuel consumed (as per math that the MID does). I hope this clarifies.

If you want to upgrade to 195, the stock rims should work well. If you want to upgrade to 205s, the stock rims will still work but you are not doing justice to the tire width which will remain unused on both the edges due to the bulge. 205s best fit on 6 or 6.5J. Even SX4 Z variants that came with 205s were on 6.5J if I remember. So, if you want to upgrade to 205s, pick a good set of alloys but also ensure that these alloys have the right offset that it fits well within the wheel arches.

[dadu]

Originally Posted by Sree73

How comfortable is the entry to the third row? Is the entry through the space between the seats in 2nd row? Or option of folding the 2nd row seats available?

Sorry, if these are answered anywhere in the thread already.

I just went and saw this and I stand corrected, you have a lever on top of the captain seat which if you pull out, folds the seat and seat has be pushed forward to create more back space to ingress.

Originally Posted by paragsachania

The XL6 or the New Ertiga's wheel size still doesn't change - 185/65R15 mounted onto 5.5J Size Alloys/Rims. This is same as what the outgoing models had.

On the same stock alloys, I have used the following:

• 185-65 Good Years - 16,000 Km
• 205-60 Michelin XM2 - 90,000 Km
• 195-65 Michelin Primacy 3ST - 70,000 Km

If you want to upgrade to 195, the stock rims should work well. If you want to upgrade to 205s, the stock rims will still work but you are not doing justice to the tire width which will remain unused on both the edges due to the bulge. 205s best fit on 6 or 6.5J. Even SX4 Z variants that came with 205s were on 6.5J if I remember. So, if you want to upgrade to 205s, pick a good set of alloys but also ensure that these alloys have the right offset that it fits well within the wheel arches.

Well articulated real life usage , 195 seems to be the right fit for up-sizing on stock rims.

[Leoshashi]

White XL6:

[JishD]

This BRV from Maruti looks so much better in white compared to Nexa blue ! And the front actually looks a bit Seltos-ish here. Will visit Nexa over the weekend to check it out

[John]

Originally Posted by Sree73

How comfortable is the entry to the third row? Is the entry through the space between the seats in 2nd row? Or option of folding the 2nd row seats available?

Sorry, if these are answered anywhere in the thread already.

One could access the third row from between the captains seats (requires bending over a fair bit!) or tilt the captains seatback and slide the seat forward.

[reppy]

I always found the third row of Ertiga better than the Innova in terms of comfort. The provision of captain seats in the XL6 will also enhance the feeling of space for the last row.

Overall this looks like a strong package for a family who tag along a driver and a maid on long drives.

Only wish Maruti would have spent more effort on the safety front and given 6 airbags on the top model atleast.

[mindfreak]

Wishlist items - Bigger multimedia touchscreen, Bigger Alloys & More Airbags.

XL6 ticks all the boxes at this price point.

Captain seats provide surprisingly good comfort (better than ertiga's 2nd row). 3rd row is strictly a 2 seater but comfortable. Boot space looks bigger than Innova after 3rd row seats are pulled all the way back. Additional storage in the boot through bottom partition was welcome addition (away from prying eyes).

Looks are appealing. Bigger rims would improve road presence. Black rims are welcome change.

[narayan]

Originally Posted by Reinhard

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And Maruti spent 100 Crore rupees on the R&D for this car? They should have approached TBHP as an outsourcing partner. We all would have contributed and given them this car in about 1 Lakh rupees tops.

I guess 99 of those 100 Crores were spent on marketing in trying to position this as a crossover SUV.

All car makers inflate R&D expenses to claim depreciation benefits. Simple as that.

[motorworks]

Originally Posted by PYSO

The kerb weight has gone up by 40-50 kgs from the regular ertiga.


That weight increase couldn't be due to adding roof rails and body cladding. Some body strengthening has been done.


The development cost is 100 crores.

By the way, what is this so called body strengthening?
Just because Suzuki claims to have spent 100 crores on the product, it does not mean they have done anything mechanically on the car. And the kerb weight going up by less 5% can be attributed to various reasons,Im certain that body panels are not one of them. Why would Suzuki use different body panels on the XL6 when almost 90% of the car is the same Ertiga? And that Ertiga itself is a new car!

This is a just a clever strategy from Suzuki to add a new car in its line up with minimal investment, and also to tap in to the ever increasing Nexa footprint.

[PYSO]

Originally Posted by motorworks

By the way, what is this so called body strengthening?
Just because Suzuki claims to have spent 100 crores on the product, it does not mean they have done anything mechanically on the car. And the kerb weight going up by less 5% can be attributed to various reasons,Im certain that body panels are not one of them. Why would Suzuki use different body panels on the XL6 when almost 90% of the car is the same Ertiga? And that Ertiga itself is a new car!

This is a just a clever strategy from Suzuki to add a new car in its line up with minimal investment, and also to tap in to the ever increasing Nexa footprint.

XL6 brochure mentions it has TECT body.
That claim is not made about ertiga.

I can't think of any other obvious reasons for the extra weight, other than body strengthening.

[shibujp]

Someone should tell Maruti that when you provide cladding, skirts etc to a stock car it makes the wheels look puny! The upright bonnet the side cladding, roof rails all strike the right notes till you look at the rubber. A fatter 195/205 spec tyres would have really changed the stance.

Looks like a well executed product and i feel this is going to be what emerges from the Toyota stables as well though in a 7 seater guise. Toyota has promised that the new 'T'Ertiga is not going to be a simple badge reengineering like the Baleno.

Drive on,
Shibu.