Thanks everyone for replying.
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Originally Posted by AYP I think this is mainly due to the fact that the Brezza when launched had a competitor in the form of 'Ford' Ecosport and not 'Hyundai' Ecosport. I am pretty sure that the facelift will fix this though. |
I hope it does. I'd further like to add that I am completely in favour of parts sharing which MSIL does. Take LED fog lamps for example. I'm sure it costs a bomb and IIRC, its currently imported from Japan. If Maruti decides to give it in more cars, it would eventually become cheaper due to economies of scale, and would also result in better parts availability in future. Added benefit is that even smaller cars can get these features, improving Maruti's feature list compared to the competition. Maruti has got a huge benefit of being a market leader with huge scale of operation. My point is they should use that to their benefit, and eventually its the customer who stands benefited.
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Originally Posted by Nilesh5417 OT - if you want features in your Maruti, seems like Baleno is the car to get then. ![Smile](https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.png) |
Which is exactly the point of this thread! What if someone wants a Sedan, or a Crossover and he/she is ready to pay more. Imagine a customer spending 10Lacs on S Cross and still getting lesser features than a 8L Baleno.
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Originally Posted by Sheel Rear fog lamps in Xylo but not in Scorpio, what would you say...they all act weird. |
Omission of Rear fog lamps is one of the craziest thing which almost all manufacturers are doing. Believe it or not, Maruti has removed rear fog lamps from its entire lineup. Cars like 2nd gen Dzire, Ertiga etc got it initially, only to be removed once they were facelifted.
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Originally Posted by DicKy Looking at the models discussed above, there could be only one probable cause.
Models like the Baleno, Ignis and S-cross are more like international models that are sold in Japan and Europe.
Whereas Ertiga, Brezza and Ciaz are more like developing market cars, especially Brezza which is an Indian specific model.
Reach adjustable steering wheel, puddle lamps are a given for developed markets, whereas rear A/c vents in small cars are more like an Asian market thing. |
Going by that logic, shouldn't S Cross get puddle lamps? Its the most European Maruti you can buy today!
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Originally Posted by fz_rider I guess its all about price point. They (manufacturers) do their research, and have a fair idea how much customers are ready to pay for a particular product. Accordingly, they add or delete the features in the product. |
Agreed, but how does that explain an 8 Lac Rupees Baleno deserving features, which a 10L S Cross doesn't? That's precisely what I wish to highlight. Shouldn't higher price translate to better feature list?
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Originally Posted by GTO What really, really gets my goat is the "rear defogger" which is such an important safety feature.
The base variants of many ~15 lakh rupee cars won't have them. However, the same manufacturer's 7-lakh rupee hatchback / sedan top variant offers that. In such a safety conscious world, how can you leave a 500-rupee rear defogger for the top variant only? |
It won't even cost 500 rupees to a MASS Market manufacturer, Sir. I can never justify saving on such important features. Hope Maruti and other manufacturers see this thread and stop being foolish.
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Originally Posted by pavi While other car manufacturers go with family face, Maruti goes with family 'power window switches' . |
Guess you completely lost the gist of this thread's discussion. This isn't about ranting what's already there. It's about what's missing.
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It would have been better if they differentiate the different segments with different power window switches.
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Originally Posted by audioholic For me, the only functional upgrade would be backlit switches and beyond that, I can't imagine differentiating across segments. |
Precisely. A backlit switch would definitely serve a purpose. Other than that, there is no need of differentiating segments with differently
shaped power window switches. Different segments can be differentiated on a million other factors, engine, drive-lines etc. In fact, this sharing is a nice thing to do if economies of scale and better availability of spares is concerned. Suppose a 2005 Swift owner needs replacement of those switches, he can easily get them even today without being a liability for anyone. If parts sharing can give better value, then why not!
Regards,
Shashi