[SPARKled]

How often do we hear "not feasible for India" especially these Euro car makers. The way they make it sound is as if they are doing us a big favor by selling their cars to us. But we are giving them a sound spanking on their backs by ignoring their products and buying from those car makers who value our business and are committed to cars made or tailored specifically for us. Just like consolidation happening in the cut throat telecom industry with only a few major committed players left its only a matter of time something similar happens in our auto industry as well. I see small players completely exiting while those with any worthwhile presence teaming with committed players to survive. But if Renault continue with such nonsensical business policies, I see it exiting very soon along with other "not feasible for India" car makers like Nissan, VW and the likes.

[Venkatesh.H]

Originally Posted by vaasscit

I presume you meant Captur and Lodgy. Logan is no more on sale in India.

What Duster needs is a full interior revamp. Rest of the vehicle is on par with competition.

Yes you are correct, I mean "Captur and Lodgy".

Also they have get their engines tuned for higher power and give multi drive modes like competitors. Their engines to be complied with BS6 norms and safety regulations.

Venkatesh.H

[volkman10]

Renault India will not bring the 2nd Gen Duster to India, but is working on the 3rd GEN Duster and will debut in the Indian Market in 2023.

3rd Generation Renault Duster To Be Petrol Only

The new car will have a modern engine lineup with likely smaller turbocharged offerings - which will not only meet global emission standards for 2023, but also have a slew of transmission options - auto/CVT and manual - tied to it.

The plan is to subsequently also have electrified versions of its cars - be it hybrid or full EV

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[Nilesh5417]

Originally Posted by volkman10

Renault India will not bring the 2nd Gen Duster to India, but is working on the 3rd GEN Duster and will debut in the Indian Market in 2023.


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So that is a full 5yrs away. It will be interesting to see how Renault plans to survive / fill these 5yrs with. I mean no diesel in the lineup from what I read and their launches are far and few.

[motorworks]

2023? Is that even a plan? Here we have a reasonably successful Car, which literally has some sort of fan following for its ride and ability to take abuse, Renault has sold good numbers of the car for the last 5-6 years now and they did not plan for a complete overhaul until now?

By 2023 the Duster brand may be dead. By then Tata, Mahindra, Hyundai, Kia, and possibly even Skoda would have all launched new SUVs or next gen versions of their current ones.

[sahilkhurana]

This is like digging your own grave Well done Renault !

[YashD]

Renault had dug it's own grave a long time back when they decided not to bring in the 2nd generation Duster along with the poor launch of Captur. The poor interiors along with ergonomics were the final nail to the coffin.

The Fluence & Koleos wasn't successful in the mass market but they had created a niche for themselves. The owners still vouch for their cars in terms of driving dynamics, reliability and overall appeal but this was outright poor marketing & product planning.

The consumers lost their trust on the company when they "Scammed" the consumers calling the Indian Captur an international product and it ruined the company's reputation. The poor after sales service & Expensive maintenance of Duster adds up to the Disaster. I feel only the Lodgy can be called a good product in their line up but then again, the uninspiring design along with poor interiors killed the vehicle.

To be honest, the senior management of Renault India are a bunch of confused lot. It's been so many years yet they haven't able to understand the consumer sentiments nor are they good with planning. The debut of Triber is one classic example. No diesel engine, underpowered 1.0L Petrol, evident cost cutting like no indicators on the ORVM & lack of Alloys along with the missing Climate control. All these are done in entry level products! I agree the company will have a monopoly but you need a strong product on paper before the customers are going to get attracted to the vehicle!

I won't be shocked if Renault decides to leave India by 2022. How long will they survive on the facelift Duster which people already know is too old now? Also, what are they really planning to sell for the next 5 years?
Even the Kwid now, needs a second generation!

[volkman10]

Renualt Duster seen testing on BSVI Power train. The 2020 SUV will likely be an all Petrol affair.
No exterior or interior changes to the current Duster is expected.

In Europe, Renault uses a 1.0-litre three-cylinder petrol engine making 100 PS and 160 Nm while the 1.3-litre Tce turbo petrol developed with Daimler delivers power outputs ranging from 115 PS to 160 PS with maximum torque output of 270 Nm. The latter is even being used in Mercedes-Benz A-Class. As for the transmission, depending on the variants, a dual-clutch auto with an all-wheel-drive system as an option is also being sold in Europe.

In all probabilities, the 1.0-litre TCe turbo petrol makes a lot of sense for India as it could allow Renault to price the Duster, Lodgy and Captur competitively compared to the relative 1.5-litre petrol

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[Reinhard]

The 1.5 K9K is a goner as confirmed by Renault. No diesels.

Now if they don't bring the 1.3 Tce and sell these heavy cars with a 1.0 Tce - its plain insult to us Indians as car buyers. I'd rather see this brand go defunct in India in that case. 100PS/160Nm at peak rpm levels. What a joke. We have hatchbacks making those numbers now. And they cost half of the Duster. It has started giving me pain to see this brand still being in business in our country.

[volkman10]

Dacia is already working on its first 7-seater SUV, the equivalent model from Renault (Duster) likely to follow.

The Dacia model is likely to be launched in 2022.







The first 7 - seater SUV Dacia is already under development and proof of this is the hunted mule testing a few days ago circulating the full light of day. The brand has used the body of a Renault Scénic as a base to modify it and carry out the first road tests. Now, beyond this fact, what is truly important will lie in the entrails of the vehicle whose name is not yet known.

Will it be a kind of 7-seater Dacia Duster?

At this point we can understand that those information actually spoke of this new model that will replace both the Lodgy and the Logan MCV. Now, are we facing a kind of 7-seater Duster? It is a key question that we must answer. And the truth is that this new model with an unknown name will have a totally different approach.

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[aniketi]

Really ?? I can make better attempt than this, this looks more hideous than engineering projects done by students in final year of engineering. Looks really ugly, just look at rear wheel, simple horrible. Hope they are not thinking of launching this in India.

[RSR]

Originally Posted by aniketi

Looks really ugly, just look at rear wheel, simple horrible. Hope they are not thinking of launching this in India.

This is very likely to be a decoy test mule to test different components of the new car.

It looks like a horrible thing becuause it seems to put together different body panels from different vehicles. There is no explanation for the rear wheel well other than this.

I'm sure this hurriedly & poorly put together contraption as we see it will never make it to any market!

[volkman10]

The 7 seater from Dacia rendered:






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[volkman10]

Third Generation Dacia Duster likely to come in 2023/24. may lose the 4X4 configuration.

the second generation of the Dacia Duster will hand over to a 100% new model in 2024. On the program is a new CMF-B platform and an E-Tech hybrid version.

Like the seven-seater crossover , presented in autumn 2021 and marketed in 2022 , the Duster 3 will swap its 1.5 Blue dCi engine for the 140 hp non-rechargeable E-Tech hybrid system

In essence, the Romanian SUV should benefit from the new generation of 1.2 TCe and 1.5 TCe engines , derived from the current 1.0 and 1.3 TCe, associated with a 48V mild hybridization.

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[volkman10]

Next Generation Duster code name - [Dacia] Duster III [P1310], and its interpretation.

- the first letter gives the type of bodywork. It hasn't changed too much compared to the old Renault nomenclature, except that SUVs can be recognized by the letter P instead of H (to align with Nissan)
- the first number indicates the platform: Y = CMF-0 (Kwid), 1 = CMF B, 3 = CMF CD3 (Kadjar 2, Megane 5), Z = CMF-EV, R = Renault specific (used for the aluminum platform of the A110)
- the second figure indicates the generation of the platform: for the Duster, it will be the 3rd generation of the CMF-B, the second being that used for the Clio 5 / Captur 2, the first being that of the Clio 4 / Captur 1
- the last two digits indicate the project number using this platform / platform generation. Figures 10 to 39 are reserved for Renault / Dacia projects, figures 40 to 59 for Lada, figures 60 to 89 for China.

So here the Duster is an SUV (P), based on CMF B (1), 3rd generation of the platform (3) and 1st vehicle developed on this generation of the platform (10)


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