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Originally Posted by manjunathkl You said you are open to Diesel. Nexon, TUV300 have 4 cylinder diesel engines. So, your elimination is not fair. |
I did mention the reason of eliminating Nexon.
TUV300 is nowhere in the race in terms of smoothness and refinement.
XUV300 is a good option, but Mahindra needs to work on its steering.
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This is only a matter of perception. I have owned 1 Hyundai, 1 Fiat, 1 Chevy and 1 Maruti cars in the past. Currently owning a Creta 2016. Hyundai's servicing is not any more expensive than Maruti or any mass-market brand (forget VW-Skoda).
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I would not say it to be just a perception. My closest friends have owned 2 i10s, 1 Grand i10 and 1 i20. And I have seen their servicing costs and repairs.
I would say the initial 60-70K KMs are smooth with normal costs, but you have to be really lucky beyond those KMs to keep the ownership costs low. My all 4 friends have cried their heart out on purchasing a Hyundai.
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A few niggles will happen on a small number of cars of every brand. It is not like every Maruti sold will be fully niggle-free. If you hear the niggles my friend faced in his brand new Skoda Superb, you will be astonished. My other friend's Toyota liva too had issues. My Fiat had a few niggles over 9 years, but they were too few and far between (contrary to popular belief). If, unfortunately, one-off part malfunctions, one can get it replaced under warranty.
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I agree, it's a machine and it can fail. But at the end it's all about probability. The probability of having niggles in a tried and tested Brezza would be around 1 percent, while that in a TATA would be around 10 percent maybe. It's like 10 times extra chances of issues.
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IMO, an extra star is still worth it, compared to small inconveniences.
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I agree. That's the reason I went out of my budget and purchased a super safe Compass with its own sets of niggles. But I am ok with a 4* product for a city.
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No doubt Brezza is a capable product, but except for point 3, all other points are matched or excelled by at least one competitor.
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If you separate out the individual points then maybe yes, but it's the overall package that makes it attractive.
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Eco-sport is a better-engineered car with significantly better build quality compared to Brezza. It shows in its dynamics. Even its sound insulation is superb compared to Brezza. But I would hold-off Ford till its future in India becomes clear. We have to see how in real life their merger with Mahindra plays out.
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You made the decision for me.
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Hey, don't get me wrong. It is your money, it is your decision. I'm no one to judge. But I'm sharing my thought. It is up to you to accept or reject. If Maruti, drives its biggest business from India, they ought to give us the best car possible at its price.
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No manufacturer can do it. To keep prices low, you ought to make compromises. That's the reason most manufacturers are moving to 3 cylinders now.
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But in reality, they lag in almost every department when you compare features, build-quality, latest tech, design, safety.
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It's just the way you look at it.
Features List - It has all the necessary features -
- Android Auto
- Power Folding Mirrors
- Reverse Camera
- Automatic Climate Control
- Auto Dimming IRVM
I find TPMS to be the only essential feature missing in Brezza.
The companies just for the sake of standing out and competing are offering 'unnecessary' features IMHO.
Build-Quality - One area Maruti definitely definitely needs to work on ALL ITS CARS.
But Brezza being a 4* rated product inspires enough confidence.
Latest Tech - The 'connected car' thing is the one that I think is missing. And the 4 speed AT is bad (but not relevant for me). But any other tech that you feel is missing from Brezza?
Regarding engine tech - I personally find a 4 cyl NA engine to be way better than a 3 cyl Turbo engine.
Design - It's a personal choice, so not commenting on this.
Safety - Brezza specifically is a 4* product. But Maruti needs to work on the safety of all of it's other cars.
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Also, are you happy with the fact that they will sell the same old 2016 Brezza to you in 2020 with new head-lamps, tail-lamps, front grill and a new engine mandated by BS6?
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If you ask 'happy' then definitely NO, I was expecting better. But I am ok with it.
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Why is Maruti so poor to upgrade a superbly successful car in a meaningful way?
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This is Maruti's life cycle for any product. After 3-4 years, they launch just a facelift. And after 6-7 years a completely new redesigned product is launched.
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Good to hear from buyers who are concerned about safety. Most average Joes won't even understand the importance of safety ratings. Having said that, the gold standard in safety is 5 stars today. 4 stars cars are so 2010ish.
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This is going to be a gradual shift. Kudos to TATA for taking a lead here.