Re: Maruti S-Presso, the SUV'ish hatchback. EDIT : Launched at Rs. 3.69 lakhs Quote:
Originally Posted by wheelguy Well, Maruti calls S-Presso as an SUV while Renault transparently says that Kwid is a hatchback in SUV style. There is a whole lot of difference between calling a car SUV, and SUV styled hatchback! |
The term 'SUV' has been abused and beaten to death in the Indian market. The cheapest, affordable SUV available in India, as someone has mentioned elsewhere, is the Duster AWD. Period. Be it the S-Presso or the XUV3OO and everything between, all of them are hatchbacks glorified as SUVs. Quote:
Originally Posted by shortbread Is the S-Presso a bad attempt by Maruti?
Oh yes it is, in fact it's a terrible attempt. I understand production cars diverging from their concepts, but for a concept that looked sporty and cute(ish), the production version had no dimensional similarities or the design details. The proportions, front end, all the garish plastic, the rear.....one can go on.
Is the S-Presso an ugly car? 'Beauty lies in the eye of the beholder.'
For a majority of beholders whose eyes function, Yes, the S-Presso is ugly. |
I have similar views on the Santro. Quote:
Originally Posted by kiku007 No doubt on that. But the question I have is, do you feel this is the BEST Maruti Suzuki can do for it’s LARGEST/MOST PROFITABLE market? Is this all they think Indians deserve? |
This has always been my biggest qualm with MSIL. If we look at the last decade, most of their products barring a few, have been mediocre at best. Quote:
Low cost doesn’t have to look and feel so cheap.
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I agree but I reiterate, 'quality' is relative. Quote:
What makes me sad is, Maruti has successfully made it acceptable to keep standards low in India.
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Today Maruti is in an indisputable position and has the power to make incremental changes across the board that can move the Indian automobile scene to its next level. Other Automakers will be forced to follow suit. But that’s not happening. I’m not saying they are complacent like HM. Maruti is actually the most aggressive and fiercely competitive. I just hope for the sake of everyone, Maruti is also innovative.
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Quoting my own statement elsewhere on the thread - Quote:
And this is exactly the reason why I would probably never buy a Maruti. Design, power, luxury, value be damned, I do not like the way they think they 'know it all' about what an average Indian customer wants. I understand that no automobile manufacturer is a saint but I truly believe that at Maruti, a "lot" goes on behind closed doors with the sole intention being capitalizing market share and that in my view, makes them an unethical company.
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Of course, there are bad cars. If a car cannot protect its occupants and the environment then it is a bad car. It’s a different topic to say that someone cannot make a safe car at 5L but that doesn’t mean I have to call it a good car.
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How did you conclude that the S-Presso is unsafe, may I ask? If it is because of the sheet metal thickness then none of the cars in the Maruti stable qualify to be safe. Also, can you tell me if the Kwid/Go/Santro are any safer? Quote:
There are many reasons why some of us think we are auto enthusiasts. One of the reasons is to not accept status-quo and demand the best. Mediocrity should be questioned. That's how we force progress.
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Mediocrity has to be questioned, yes. We have to criticize the abomination the S-Presso is but being auto-enthusiasts, we have to lap up a >10yr old model with an unreliable, problematic gearbox and questionable after sales, right? Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerryaj The testimony to it is we have 31 pages on S-presso thread, whereas we have only 7 on Kwid thread. So we can understand where the interest is more. |
This is what I mean by negative publicity. Very soon, the Kwid thread will be lost under the bundle not because it is a bad car but a good car which not many of us will buy or will have to buy.
Last edited by Porschefire : 3rd October 2019 at 13:02.
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