[Guna]

I completed a 1000 km highway trip recently. This included 70% of 4/6 lane highway (NH4), 20% of undivided state highway and 10% of the rest of the types including ghat sections.
FE was low at around 11-12 kmpl (again that is in my Forster territory. I used to get 13-14 in my Honda city AT)
It feels underpowered as expected but surprisingly by using the 'manual mode', it is quite manageable.
I wasn't sure about the handling and stability but to my surprise, the car felt very stable on the highways and nimble enough on the curved sections. There are some vertical movements in the rear while going on a road, which has a hint of uneven surface.
Overall, it is good on highways expect foe the pathetic FE.

[tarik.arora]

I feel like fainting looking at the FE numbers being posted by the owners. At the current petrol price, it costs over INR 10/km to run this thing

I think the new i20 CVT is with the 1.2 engine and not the old 1.4 engine, it should deliver a little better. I don't think i will ever be able to suggest this car over Jazz, purely because of the poor FE.

[itsashishsharma]

My pick in the automatic hatchbacks will still be the new Figo AT with that fantastic 1.5L petrol from the EcoSport and a proper torque converter. It feels so good in the much heavier EcoSport, in Figo it will feel fabulous. No CVT with puny 1.2 can come close to it.

[SoumenD]

Originally Posted by tarik.arora

I feel like fainting looking at the FE numbers being posted by the owners. At the current petrol price, it costs over INR 10/km to run this thing

I think the new i20 CVT is with the 1.2 engine and not the old 1.4 engine, it should deliver a little better. I don't think i will ever be able to suggest this car over Jazz, purely because of the poor FE.

These numbers shared by fellow owners were one of the reasons I had to let go of the i20 CVT during my recent purchase. Ofcourse it has other issues like not-so-great CVT transmission plus a little cramped rear seat. In terms of FE nothing beats the Baleno but in that the build is not confidence inspiring. Hence I settled for the one in between them. Jazz CVT. Its more frugal than i20 and felt better built than Baleno, plus the sport mode with paddle shifters just make it a bit less boring on highways. Here's the record for first 250kms(11.7kmpl). Am sure it will only improve from hereon post services.



Still around 260km range is left, post which can get the tankful numbers. Spacewise as well the jazz trumps almost every other car available under 10L. To make things sweeter ,the discounts(~70k+) made it better VFM overall for my requirements.

Originally Posted by itsashishsharma

My pick in the automatic hatchbacks will still be the new Figo AT with that fantastic 1.5L petrol from the EcoSport and a proper torque converter. It feels so good in the much heavier EcoSport, in Figo it will feel fabulous. No CVT with puny 1.2 can come close to it.

Although Figo AT is not available for test drive, I did test the Aspire AT and boy!!! It was amazing to say the least. However Ford themselves don't seem to be interested in selling it. Try enquiring about it in the showrooms, they just give vague response and try to convince you to go for aspire. And not everyone is comfortable with the sub 4m sedan looks

[autorahul]

Originally Posted by Guna

Overall, it is good on highways expect foe the pathetic FE.

I thought one of the primary reason for Hyundai to move from TC to CVT was fuel efficiency. This begs the question, how low was it earlier?

[Guna]

Originally Posted by autorahul

I thought one of the primary reason for Hyundai to move from TC to CVT was fuel efficiency. This begs the question, how low was it earlier?

ARAI FE was 15.04 kmpl. For the current version it is 19.8 kmpl. But I doubt if it was any lower than what I am getting in real life driving conditions.
I have been keeping a watch on the real time FE and here is my observations:
If you are accelerating hard, car comes to the lowest gear ratio and the FE shows 2-3 kmpl !
If you are accelerating gently the display shows 5-6 kmpl
If you are coasting, it goes up to 15-16 kmpl
While braking and slowing down, it goes above 20 kmpl.

Car being fairly heavy and mated to a small engine, only way to fill the gaps in city driving is to accelerate with heavy foot and this takes the toll on the FE.

[SilentEngine]

When in D mode (manual override) how many steps does it provide?
I did a test drive today and couldn't really go above 4. Is that the limit?

[SoumenD]

Originally Posted by SilentEngine

When in D mode (manual override) how many steps does it provide?
I did a test drive today and couldn't really go above 4. Is that the limit?

It's a 6 step CVT IIRC. What was your speed when you reached 4th? Were you heavy on the throttle? Reason for asking is on kickdown it usually holds the gears for a little longer than usual.

Case in point: in my Jazz CVT, if I kickdown, it holds the revvs for a little more than 3.5k but if I am gentle it usually changes gear around 2-2.5k rpm.

[Guna]

Originally Posted by SilentEngine

When in D mode (manual override) how many steps does it provide?
I did a test drive today and couldn't really go above 4. Is that the limit?

You need to be above 50 km/h for the 5th pseudo gear and 60 above 60 km/h for the 6th.

[SilentEngine]

Originally Posted by SoumenD

It's a 6 step CVT IIRC. What was your speed when you reached 4th? Were you heavy on the throttle? Reason for asking is on kickdown it usually holds the gears for a little longer than usual.



Case in point: in my Jazz CVT, if I kickdown, it holds the revvs for a little more than 3.5k but if I am gentle it usually changes gear around 2-2.5k rpm.

Originally Posted by Guna

You need to be above 50 km/h for the 5th pseudo gear and 60 above 60 km/h for the 6th.

Thanks. It was a relatively short drive within city roads, with not much scope to push higher. I was probably around 50kmph. What was confusing was that SA told me it's only 4-step when I asked him specifically. For once I thought it had 4-speed box from i10!

[Guna]

Originally Posted by SilentEngine

What was confusing was that SA told me it's only 4-step when I asked him specifically. For once I thought it had 4-speed box from i10!

It is amazing how ignorant the sales people can be! 4 speed is the torque converter AT on the i10 Grand (and previous i10 and i20 ATs).

[SoumenD]

Originally Posted by SilentEngine

What was confusing was that SA told me it's only 4-step when I asked him specifically. For once I thought it had 4-speed box from i10!

Originally Posted by Guna

It is amazing how ignorant the sales people can be! 4 speed is the torque converter AT on the i10 Grand (and previous i10 and i20 ATs).

Am not surprised at all. I saw the same with Hyundai, maruti nexa & Ford while test driving their cars. The SAs know basically about the touch-screen features and BHP figures majorly. Heck, I had to tell the i20 SA that the car has 170mm GC. They are basically well versed with the blingy features which probably our market cares about more. Get a bit technical and they would be helpless. Am not blaming them either. They know what they have to. BHPians aren't there regular customers anyways. So I mostly talked to them about available offers and all rather than anything else

[rahulskumar]

My Dad brought i20 CVT ( 2019 1000 kms done ) and I've a Jazz ( 2017 CVT 23k kms done). When compared to Jazz, I felt the pick up in i20 is really good but mileage is less. Its like driving Jazz in sports mode all the time. Ive become a sedate driver after driving Jazz



I see the engine rpm in i20 CVT does not raise gradually. Does anyone with i20 CVT feel the same ?

[Guna]

Originally Posted by rahulskumar

My Dad brought i20 CVT ( 2019 1000 kms done ) and I've a Jazz ( 2017 CVT 23k kms done). When compared to Jazz, I felt the pick up in i20 is really good but mileage is less. Its like driving Jazz in sports mode all the time. Ive become a sedate driver after driving Jazz



I see the engine rpm in i20 CVT does not raise gradually. Does anyone with i20 CVT feel the same ?

Yes the initial pick up on i20 is brisk. This is mainly because the car stays in the lower gear ratio until you get to decent speed. However once it reaches 30-40 kmph, car upshifts and becomes almost dead. Jazz on the other hand seems to be more linear and responds to inputs at any speed.

[avinfine]

Which is better jazz or i20 (automatic). A quick suggestion would be of great help for the following below parameters
FE
Performance
Maintenance

Most of it will be driven in city and once in a while out of station.

Thanks in advance